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There is nothing in the wilderness worthy of extremes, IMHO. Yes, they would help on the Chaos Elemental. However the Chaos Elemental is being given new drops, so even if the kills are slightly slower they will be MUCH more rewarding.

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After checking out my friends old Verac staker, i've given up and started to go straight for 70/30/70 heh. The temptation was too great, and i think that the advantage of being able to jump straight into staking will allow me to get some of the more uninformed people to stake me for 2x or maybe even 3x if i'm lucky. Thanks a lot for all the comments and support :D!

... so how is it represented then? Player 1 has 94 prayer, Player 2 has 95 and thus turmoil. Where's the representation of Turmoil? How to I distinguish Player 1 from Player 2 without stat spy or looking at the high scores? Lets face the facts here, you are stupid. If you HONESTLY believe that is a valid point, i feel sorry for you.

No, it isn't the point. You have distorted the topic so much that you are now claiming that gaining Turmoil as 0 effect on your combat level, when actually... In REALITY it does. To achieve turmoil you have to gain 6/7 combat levels, the lack of a combat level gained in 94-95 is completely redundant. You still need to gain several combat levels to get to 94. Not gaining a level for the last level needed has nothing to do with this thread, it is just a bad attempt at justifying why extremes are just as fair as turmoil. They are not.

Lol @ "legit" PKers for dying and getting less profit than rushers. Touché? I believe so :P When old wild comes back, yah for sure. :shades: But I'm positive rushers get way less kills than "legit" PKers as you so nicely put it, And all the deaths lead to DP, which is a bs system in itself haha. :P I do a fair amount of rushing, and you do tend to get crappy loots unless you pk "normally" or die intentionally. So that is what i do, i pk normally and take more risks than normal or buy 10 or so DBAs and die with them. Also, dying with 4 dark bows = gaining 4 Statius warhammers in my experience :P But yeah, rushers do get less kills. But in all honesty the lossless loots definitely make up for the waiting for special and seemingly slow rate of kills.

IMO, anyone who thinks that having extremes in PvP doesn't understand PKing at all. It would make EVERYTHING 100x harder for EVERYONE. Even those with extremes, they would be getting hit for constant 500s with whips, too. Also, Grimy, they shouldn't remove special attacks because they are limited. Special attacks don't take effect throughout a whole fight, they are a split second thing. With extremes people would be constantly be hitting harder and more accurately, not just in 1 - 4 hits.

Don't go in the wilderness then. The wilderness is ment to be and I quote from Jagex "A dangerous place." Very stupid thing to say. A dangerous place is NOT somewhere that people can 1 hit you with something like a DDS. Dangerous place != Certain death. Also, i never assumed max offense. I assumed PKing gear, in which people easily hit 350s+ with a gmaul, without extremes. How the [bleep] would extreme attack accuracy be fair on any level? I have successfully maul rushed people with 90 attack and strength from 900+lp, do you really want me to have extremes? ... you do realize the difference between Super Attack and Extreme Attack / Overload is only 7 levels, even at level 99? Again, you do realize that the difference between Super Strength and Extreme Strength / Overload is only 7 levels, even at level 99? You also realize that while Extreme Magic potions are prohibited, Wolpertingers can be used (it won't even increase your CB level anymore) for exactly the same boost? Also, if you're already mauling people to death with 90 Attack and Strength, I don't think Extremes will really change that up a whole bunch. Attack is just chance to hit - it's like saying now, 3 sides of the dice will kill you instead of 2. Sure, it makes you more powerful, but the possibility of being one hit was always there. Strength is a slightly bigger issue, but even then things like Turmoil add a lot more to damage than Extreme Strength does. If any potion is really a threat, it's Extreme Ranging, since normal Ranging Potions are so weak. 7 levels can make a big difference, if it doesn't why bother getting the extra 150m worth of herblore levels? Magic can't be used to instantly KO someone. Yes, it can be powerful, but a max hit of 450ish is hardly something to fear in comparison to instant death via dark bows, hand cannons and granite mauls. Granite mauls are VERY inaccurate, the extra attack levels will make a big difference. The possibility of being one hit was always there, but it is a very, very small possibility. With extremes it would be edging on likely. Extremes wouldn't make the wilderness dangerous, they would make it somewhere that unless you had extreme defence potions and hella good armour you could simply NOT enter with any sort of risk. PKing would be dead.

Don't go in the wilderness then. The wilderness is ment to be and I quote from Jagex "A dangerous place." Very stupid thing to say. A dangerous place is NOT somewhere that people can 1 hit you with something like a DDS. Dangerous place != Certain death. Also, i never assumed max offense. I assumed PKing gear, in which people easily hit 350s+ with a gmaul, without extremes. How the [bleep] would extreme attack accuracy be fair on any level? I have successfully maul rushed people with 90 attack and strength from 900+lp, do you really want me to have extremes?

Because it is so hard to kill people as it is? Extremes are just unnecessary. At bosses they give you a significant advantage and the ability to get more/faster kills. In the wilderness they would give you the ability to 1 hit people, which is outrageous.

This. @Your earlier post, this isn't a flame starter. It just annoys me how people can be so idiotic =/ Also this.

Lol @ "legit" PKers for dying and getting less profit than rushers. Touché? I believe so :P

Not true, now 99% of people up to level 100 are pures... There is practically no advantage to be had other than being equally matched (and not giving them an advantage). The problem with pures is their absolute hatred for defence. It isn't just that they don't train it, they fear it. They use someone's defence as a reason to NOT fight them, but isn't their lack of defence supposed to give them the upper hand?

Everyone has always ranted about it to be honest, but it just means that you can't always keep what you want to... Giving the game some risk. I've seen people lose rares due to being idiots and picking up something like a mithril platebody from a junk kill while 1 iteming =/.

And so it begins... Got myself the stats i want and my full rune with chain and dagger :). Just wanted to try out a bit of staking, and it went very well. Definitely going to continue with the small stakes until i grab myself a rune scimitar :P

IRL best friend, no. I like my friends. Online, they are disposable but 99% unlikely. :P.

Nice stats :) Good luck to you too. I was contemplating getting 45 defence, but i don't think that the extra +6 strength bonus and defence bonus from gauntlets would be worth the combat level(s). I think i will be sticking to 40/10/40 until i get around 5m. You should start a blog, i would love to see your progress too :D

Lets start this thread positively... Howdy :) I'm starting a new staker, Gudi Lul, in an attempt to finally get my bank over the 70m mark (which seems to be my glass ceiling). I used to be pretty decent at range tank staking at level 56 or so on my nooby range tank, Deth By Tank. I made roughly 45m - 60m on that account from staking in a few weeks. I soon got bored, began to get to a level where people were less stupid and started to get ranked on the hiscores, so i gave up and wasted the money. In the very, very long run i aim to max out this account with a 99/71/99 build. This will allow me to box well at 104 combat, and i may continue to 99/99/99 if i want to do some even higher stakes. For now, my goals are fairly low. While i am F2P i will be roughly 40/10/40, and when i become P2P i will advance to 70/30/70 then 80/60/80. If all goes well, i should be staking up to 50m towards the later goals. Stats as of 7:30pm 23/01/2011: Current Goals: Attack - 70/70 Strength - 29/29 Defence - 66/70 HP - 64/60 Combat - 64/64 Bank - 13.5m I should be updating this blog frequently, it depends if i can remember to :). Hopefully i will have the time to do it daily, if not i will make sure to update it for any significant levels/stakes :) Thanks for the read :D

I think cap it at 1m and people will be happy. It isn't like people in F2P would frequently stake more than that, as most utterly minted stakers will most likely prefer P2P staking.

Just wondering what you guys think will become of F2P staking? I don't think that staking was released to F2P before the trade limit was put in place, so i'm fairly sure this is a first for Runescape. Do you guys think that a lot of F2P staking will be sparked due to people being able to make maxed/close to it boxers without having to fork out for membership each time? I'm working on a F2P staker now, which i will eventually give membership and train up. I'm seeing F2P staking as a good way to make some decent cash for the gear for P2P, and higher stakes.

I'll take the GP every time. Online honour is worthless. Fair enough, i could get that nice feeling of helping someone or i could save myself 15 hours of grind. If they want to keep their cash, they should probably just improve. If i want that kind feeling i would rather go to Lumbridge and give a random noob 50k. Bad things happen, never was i given the opportunity to get back my 7m when i disconnected at barrows, i'm sure other people will be able to man up and handle it.

Mounts -.- I want to be able to ride a bloody dragon from Lumbridge to Camelot.

I think the max is 9999, so you'd have a bit of a mission, lol. Just got a verac's helm :) <3 you barrows.

Title says it all really, just wondering what kill count you guys get... Personally, i kill all 6 brothers and 6 monters. I always have, get decent junk loots an frequent barrows loots (i know it doesn't effect it, but meh).

Dear people who think clues will be too hard with the return of the old wilderness... Don't do them. Pretty damn simple. I don't go to Armadyl if i will die and lose money, so quite simply DON'T DO THE [bleep]ING CLUES. Alternatively, get better at the game and realise how easy it is to avoid PKers. This is all.