You can't compare achieving goals in a game with achieving things like writing bachelor or do an apprentorship, yes it's trur that they 'would' have what it takes 'cause they can grind for months (and sadly... years) but i bet that almost no one of the top players have something like a real job/apprentorship or even finished university. and if you think about it what will get your far in life, playing runescape for over 20'000 hrs with quitting school (which is a common fact that many players did this) or studying/working for 20'000 hours? But after all, it's not my life, i can't judge them because of this. i'm just sure that i wouldn't ever be able to live on the cost of someone (mostly the parents) just because i wanna play a game cause of addiction. it's like a junky, wasting cash and in the end he has nothing won with the drug. But still he thinks that, that what he does is "right" because they enjoy it. (And i know quite many junkies so i totally know what i'm talking about) Both is unhealthy, damages the social life and in the end you're just dead and have nothing achieved. and in both categories they don't think like that. best example, when suomi quitted before 200m all he said that the game has destroyed his life, even if it was a great time, that's the samr thing which junkies are saying. but he came back and started enjoying it again. that's the same what junkies are saying. so, is it really an achievement playing for 15 hrs a day rather then going far in real life? I wouldn't be proud of sitting on my ass for 15 hrs calling my mom to bring food becsuse i don't wanna waste xp and then telling someone i'm working hard but they don't even lift. Lol best example is jebrim, he thinks he is a highly rated person because he spent over 15000 hrs training agility which does'nt take an effort, yeah i know i wouldn't be able to do that. But if i would be, i would TOTALLY NOT be proud of that. The only exceptions are the youtubers, 'cause it's their work. The community of rs is [bleep]ed up nowadays lol it's really sad reading this thread and see what game junkies are thinking of their addiction. Merry christmas, if anyone is celebrating this i know it's xp waste (that's what suomi said 2 years ago) I haven't lived with family or even had a Christmas with them in 6 years. My mother died unexpectedly a month and a half ago as well. I hadn't seen her in over 2 years. A close friend died a couple weeks ago too. I pushed myself through college and am days away from getting my degree. I'll be getting a job soon as a software engineer, something that pays very well. I spent the past few months falling in love with an amazing girl, only to lose her to someone else. I barely play RuneScape these days. My life has been very eventful. Don't pretend you anything about me. And if you think runescape didn't hold you back on achieving these things, lololol