AHappySeeker

Your barrows theory doesn't really hold up due to all those easily-accessible methods crashing during bolt racks' rising period. Bolt racks were also at their cheapest during the golden age of dragon bones and infernals. Unless there has been a trully staggering backup of bolt racks somewhere, this seems highly unlikely. Those secondary reasons behind TD hunting may be correct but the proportion of players who have always been hunting TDs for the charms and effigies with claws being a bonus lkikely pales in comparison to all the maxed melee turm/ovlers with yaks who migrated from the rapidly-crashing frosts.

Be a man. Be a barrows pure.

Knowing the definitions of common logical fallacies does not vastly improve one's ability to reason. Read on. This exactly. It's pretty plain to see, considering the market's been nearly saturated with these for a long time. Only now have they hit an all-time low after floating steadily between 19-24m for a long time after free treade. It'd also be a fair assumption that the crash of frost bones has lead to TDs becoming more popular in the first place, causing bolt racks to skyrocket and claws to crash. I'm not entirely sure how all of you before this poster failed to understand the situation. We can all blame the bots for driving claws down now. Good times. EDIT: It was my fault for forgetting about this. I had originally meant to edit the thread to provide my reasoning after the post but Tip.it looked like it was timing out during the post so I left it until it had finished handling my request or timing out to avoid a potential double-thread. Turns out my short-term memory is bad.

My question is... What are our prospects for bolt racks in the future? Does this rise have precedence? Will TDs actually recover as a moneymaker? EDIT: Since I missed my initial edit, everyone seems totally lost. This is the reasoning and it's fairly obvious once you think about it. Frosts = ded nao lol Bolt racks started rising as they started crashing. Explanation? Maxed players deciding that the abiltity to pretty much afk frosts isn't worth the reduced income and are moving to other sources. TDs have been the best solo moneymaker after frosts for a long time. It would make sense that they'd make the sacrifice of having to use effort to farm them. Here's where bolt racks come in. Karil's is widely acknowledged as the best way to kill TDs due to the lack of usefulness of enchanted bolts there, and the preference for melee when dealing damage. Its high speed allows one to force the demon to cycle prayers more quickly while having more dps than a metal crossbows. This sacrifices the use of a deflector but it can be argued that the dragon defender is actually more effective due to Darklight accuracy being one of the most severe limiting factors in TD efficiency. It should also be mentioned that bolt racks are rarely used anywhere else as their price and lower xp/hour make chins preferable for training, while the sacrifices of enchanted bolts and a shield are too much to make for a large number of bosses (Kree is fought with solely range, leading to ruby bolts being more efficient for more of the fight, as opposed to melee doing most of the work vs TDs. Zily requires kiting, providing weapons with lower rate of fire and higher stats per shot an advantage. Nex is Nex). Why is it not simply due to the removal of PvP worlds? That obviously has a large part to play as well. However, such a ridiculously rapid crash preceded by moneymaker migration points to this as major a catalyst.

Opportunity cost makes that way more expensive.

You can pick up drops without skipping attack turns. OP can't do frosties so infernals and d bones are his best consistent moneymakers. That means that his priorities should either be getting access to frosties or making the most of what he has available.

EDIT: Wait a minute. He has a salve. Of course. Why aren't you using slayer?

CT really isn't slower by anything considerable.

Urn if you can do frosts. Bank otherwise. Don't forget to flame people who you see doing neither. Essential.

k, I totally missed the pure part of that sentence. I herp derp now. That said though, spears are hella good in f2p until you get close to maxing.

Wut. I thought they were 200-something apiece. 0_0

Has this been attempted and is it a viable alternative to ZMI or would it just reqiure too much luck?

What spot are you using and why have you not told us, out of curiosity?

Haha thanks for the laugh :lol: Do you seriously think he's wrong?

Good to know. Thank you. I'll keep checking back in case anyone has new information.

RS wiki states that the SoL's rune saving chance is increased to 50% when used in conjunction with battle robes. Is this actually correct? Does this work alongside the robes' chance of supplying catalytics? Does one gain a partial effect when battle robes are worn without the hood or is the entire set required? I'm trying to figure out how I should carry out slayer tasks vs metal drags after I max out my melee stats. It's a long way away but I'd like to get a head-start since my magic level is in dire need of being increased.

I'll tell you after I've single-handedly made the market crash.

Gotcha. At least it's not hard to find Fract.

Simple question.

Are you max melee with turm, ovls and a yak? If not, don't even think of soloing or duoing Bandos and just get a rapier.

This is no faster than using any other method of making money to buy zammy pages unless level 1 clue spamming is your best moneymaker. Funnily enough, it's the best moneymaker for a huge amount of players. They just don't seem to know. I only suggested it because he said he doesnt have the money for it, and thats one way to get the book while making a profit. I know there are better ways out there to make the money, but its how i would have done it if i were in his position. So basically, you intentionally gave potentially bad advice? Go you.

These suggestions are all bad. The most efficient method of training a skill and profiting is rarely a method like high alching, which provides money and exp in the same movenent. Your best bet is always to use your best moneymaker, be it dragon bone spamming, Nex or fungus collection, to fuel the training method most effective for cost and time. Let me give you an example for magic. Spam green drags for hides and bones (preferably letting the bots do most of the work for you in the chaos tunnels), cast stun on an NPC while wearing metal armour and a sacred clay hat. Spam level 1 clues for god pages for 10m per day, cut loads of emeralds. I hope this clears some things up for you. EDIT: I'm going to take a lot of flak for this post, I'm aware.

This is no faster than using any other method of making money to buy zammy pages unless level 1 clue spamming is your best moneymaker. Funnily enough, it's the best moneymaker for a huge amount of players. They just don't seem to know.

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