Omali

troll. Reported the video for bullying. Get a life.

That's because you actively seek things out to whine over. Who said FunOrb was doing poorly? It may not be the same level as Runescape, but there are thousands of people playing at any given time, albeit mainly on Armies of Gielinor, Arcanists and Kickabout League (Single player games can't be population gauged)

It wouldn't ruin Player Vs Monsters. In practically every other MMO I've played, the mechanics for fighting players and monsters were much different. I hit much better on monsters than players in these other MMOs, I don't see why Runescape can't differentiate the mechanics. How will sailing help with damage you receive? This is a rant.

Ultima Online is turning 12 this year, and is releasing its 8th expansion pack. Everquest turned 10 this year and is releasing its 16th expansion pack. Both games continue have strong communities despite being over a decade old, I think Runescape has a long way to go before they're out of ideas.

Correct. WoW's biggest competitor will be next year, made by themselves (Blizzard) with Diablo 3 in my opinion. As they have said D3 would be released Q3 of 2010 you can expect atleast Q1 of 2011, if not Q3 2011. They usually take their time to finish their products instead of shipping them even if their ready or not, like EA and others. So don't expect D3 to be released anytime soon. More recently, Blizzard said that Starcraft 2 and Cataclysm are the only two titles to be released in 2010.

Trolling? No. I argue like a politician, so be glad it's not European Parliament otherwise there'd be punches flying around. I know pretty much every cheap shot in the books, not to mention how to wiggle out of any liability (I watched every Alberto Gonzalez interrogation). I can't remember the thread you refer to, however I should point out my one month warranty for anything I say. QA sucks is generally used as a gateway to more unconstructive criticism. What I can't stand is people who do the "but it doesn't matter, because Jagex always has and always will get it wrong" line of posts. Those are the people I try to focus on when I use my patented "get out" dog/frog. I'm a little blunt in the way I respond much of the time, but hey; I grew up in an FBI household where the best treatment for misbehavior was a belt, wooden cooking spoon, frying pan, essentially whatever was in hand at the time. I think my words are pretty soft by comparison. I'm not saying it's his fault. It's like someone driving their Porche to the Bronx, then getting it stolen. They didn't deserve to get their car stolen, but driving a Porche into the Bronx is a stupid idea. Wow does. Blizzard also makes more in a month than Jagex makes in a year, and employs something like 4 times the number of employees. FunOrb's team is 33 people, for example. The issue with the updates is that Jagex is listening to the crybabies who don't care about quality updates if they have to wait for them longer than normal. Look at Hunter, where there were riots every day because the update didn't come out on THAT monday, even though Jagex never promised it would come out on a Monday. I've said this a couple times before, but I'll say it again. I think that this "upgrade year" is a hoax, a coverup. People have already said that they did more "upgrade" updates last year, alongside normal content, yet this year they can barely manage a short quest after taking a two week break. Mod MMG made a point of referencing to a project that originally was supposed to be its own project entirely, but was ultimately decided that they would add it to Runescape. I think they're working on this update, and that's why they used the "upgrade year" as a cover. I know its wishful thinking, but considering the way Jagex works, I have high doubts that these bugs are being caused by small updates, and that there's something much bigger coming in the future either late this year, or early next year. Jagex doesn't make it clear, no. They never really have. And again, I'd like to state I'm not calling the user stupid, just his action. "Jagex wrote: Functioning of Jagex Products We will do our best to maintain operation of Jagex Products and rectify faults as quickly as possible. We may have to suspend operation of a Jagex Product without notice for repair, maintenance, improvement or other technical reason. If so, we will do our best to ensure that the suspension is as short as possible. We cannot accept responsibility for such suspensions or for any interruption or error caused by circumstances outside our reasonable control. Jagex has been dishonest and uncooperative for years. Just think of how many people have been banned in the past for referencing to Tip.It or other now-accepted fansites. It took Jagex close to 9 years to stop banning people for referencing to fansites, and Andrew had the embarrasing moment several years ago when he actually threatened to sue Tip.It for posting an article about their messed up banning system. The last time a company lied about a massive change up until the day it went live was Sony Online Entertainment with Star Wars Galaxies, and that game is on its last leg. I doubt Jagex'll die anytime soon from those who do complain, but despite Mark Gerhard doing what he can to increase player>Jagex relations, there are still stupid moves like closing down Bounty Hunter for several weeks, and removing the summoning tab two months before putting in the replacement that was promised two months previously. My reaction to this year's updates has been (because I'm contractually obligated to include at least 5 emotes per post: ............. And that is why I love me some Zenaku post.

I assume that list of "intelligent posters" doesn't include yourself. If "intelligent posters" can't take criticism and don't post because of it, they're not intelligent enough to back up what they say, or don't have the spine to do so. Either way, it's a sign that clearly their ideas need to be though out more so they have more confidence in them. The issue here is that I don't trust Jagex blindly. I've called them out multiple times, such as when they took so long to respond to the bug that caused monsters to not retaliate, and I've called them out A LOT on their policy of not returning items, not because of the policy itself, but because Jagex fluctuates between "We can't tell if you lost items" and "we can tell everything about your account", such as in that one poster's thread on the RSOF (the guy who lost 350 mil). I've knocked Jagex in the past for borderline-moronic posts by some of the Jagex Mods (Just a month or so ago, when two Jmods claimed Swiftkit was banned from use), truly useless updates (Strongholds, Gnome copters, Quickchat worlds that literally cater to <13 year olds, etc). For as much as Jagex pisses me off on occasion, I still expect constructive criticism. "QA sucks", "Jagex sucks", Nazi analogies, and other such are not constructive, they help nothing. There have been plenty of people complaining on this thread that I've agreed with, that have offered solutions such as test servers, which I've been pushing for for years. I'm going to make an attempt to calm the hostility between us by agreeing with your here. Jagex's customer service, in the six years I've been playing, is akin to going to the Department of Motor Vehicles in order to get a tooth pulled with no anesthetic. I've heard horror stories about companies in the past, but Jagex excels. In fact, they took slightly less than a year to answer one of my previous queries several years ago. Some time after I first joined, I received a blackmark for "Jagex Staff Impersonation," because I reported someone and, after the usual "who cares if he evaded the censor?" (Which he was doing to hurl heavy abuse at a newer player) I said "Tough. If you'd read the rules you'd know Jagex doesn't tolerate it." I'm not saying the player is at fault for losing his items, I'm saying it was a stupid move. You should know better than to trust any company on day-1 of launch. Every MMO company up to Blizzard with World of Warcraft faces big issues with big updates. One thing that allows WoW to have less of these massive bugs is the fact that all of it is stress tested before it goes "live" by players on test realms. I have a huge divide with Jagex when it comes to their reimbursment policy. I think it is utterly unfair how many incidents there have been in the past where players have died and lost items due to their bugs, for starters the Lumbridge Caves bug that instantly killed players. How about players who gained massive amounts of gold or experience due to bugs, but at the time weren't seen as "malicious enough" to receive a ban, or at worst a slap on the wrist? It was already said, but Jagex has always been somewhat smug with their customer service. Because Runescript is an in-house developed engine, Runescape always seems to be last to the party when it comes to features, such as Player Owned Houses, the GE, clans, etc. I will readily admit that this year has been insane with launch day bugs, and that's exactly why I suggest people to stay away from them on launch day, or at least don't take anything valuable. As much as I hate to say it, I'm essentially running my Runescape subscription on the fact that 5 bucks a month isn't a noticeable drop from my bank account, otherwise I use it exclusively for FunOrb (and Planet FunOrb). The best part of August, for me, came from deciphering the notice board in the Chaos Elemental letter. Other than that I find myself logging into Runescape every week or so, generally for only an hour. For the fact that this is an "upgrade" year, I'd much rather see Jagex doing some real upgrades. The logout timer, random events, price checker, quest list, route-finding, offense system, dungeon maps, spam filter, energy, and related updates are what I'm talking about. The kind of thing people have been asking for for YEARS. What they shouldn't be doing is month-long teasers, like removing the summoning icon for a "new icon" when they could have waited for the actual update to remove it. That was July 8th, almost 2 months ago if anyone is counting. Oh dear, I've gotten a little ranty tonight.

Yea, because I kiss Jagex's [wagon]. Good lord you're an ignorant crybaby. It's an industry fact that some bugs cannot be tested until they're in a live environment. Every software developer knows this, EVER software developer does this. Just because, in your closed little mind where everyone else is great and Jagex is omg-evul-devel-comney-uv-playur-haten-d00m, doesn't mean Jagex is "too lazy" to test out their products because there are some bugs in them, a keen difference you seem to be ignoring so you can fire off a quick "LOL UR NAZI KISASS, U DUN LIEK PEEPUL MAEKING OPINYINS!" I've already said that I'm referring to the people who make immature comments like "omg jagax have no QA!" and "They just want us to quit Runescape for Mechscape!" No, people regularly complain for the sole purpose of having something to complain about, and looking like an internet tough guy. Hell, there was a larger crying-party when Jagex made the pot icon in general stores empty. But go ahead and keep reiterating the same talking points. I'm a kissass, Jagex hates its players, blah blah whinging. Keep throwing the same half-witted rhetoric and hope that something will eventually stick. It seems to work occasionally for the other preteens on the RSOF. There are plenty of people who will fly right into new updates with their prized possessions in their bank. If half of runescape learned from past events, we would have someone diving neck first into Mobilising Armies, one of the biggest ventures as far as the Runescript system can go, with 350mil waiting to be lost.

Either that or they should allow a certain amount of players into one server. Like player mods, forum mods, and the players in the high level forum.

I believe it was Kaspersky anti-virus, and several others, that have had incidents where they unintentionally flagged explorer[Caution: Executable File] as a virus infected file and immediately deleted it. Those who were affected had to reinstall windows. Yes it is. Software is always being tested on you, and simply denying it doesn't make it untrue. Jagex does do extensive bug testing, and as I've said already, hopping on the "omg jagaz dose no bug chex" is just an ignorant, whiny copout. Is it your prerogative to cry like a barely coherent child? I think we've already nailed down the fact that there are bugs that cannot be found without live testing. Hiring new people would do nothing. They do have the right to complain. There's a massive difference in complaining and whinging, of which the average scaper tends to lean on the latter.

He, you're a funny guy. Their best WON'T be good enough when competing against Blizzard, Relic, Square Enix, and many, many others, if this is it. Considering MMOGchart had Jagex at 1.5million subscribers in the beginning of 2008, while most other MMOs sans WoW were below 500,000, there isn't much in terms of competition to worry about.

I think Brian Reagan said it best with his balloon analogy. When you see a kid lose his balloon, and it flies away, he starts screaming. His parents always talk down to him like "Why are you crying? It's just a balloon! We'll get you another one." I always answer back with, imagine if your wallet just floated out of your pocket, and started flying away. "Why you are crying? It's just a wallet. We'll get you another one." Thats a bad analogy, balloon is a bit of rubber and string, a wallet has money and I.D in. One is vastly more important than the other. The idea is that it's not about the tangible importance of the object, it's the perspective of the person who owns it.

I remember a post on the RSOF talking about how difficult it was to program waiting rooms like the ones you see in Pest Control (Where a lot of people are in and only a few will be taken into the game), as well as having a mini-game with more than 2 teams, and it makes me wonder why they keep making mini-games with those kinds of lobbies.

I think Brian Reagan said it best with his balloon analogy. When you see a kid lose his balloon, and it flies away, he starts screaming. His parents always talk down to him like "Why are you crying? It's just a balloon! We'll get you another one." I always answer back with, imagine if your wallet just floated out of your pocket, and started flying away. "Why you are crying? It's just a wallet. We'll get you another one."

British? Arrogance? I don't see the connection. That's all MMO developers, only some of them use Public Test Servers to test those updates before they're released. Doesn't get rid of all bugs though. People who are smarter don't test anything until some time after release because that's the deal with ALL software. Anyone who has a lot of experience with MMOs/Software will tell you a few things: You don't get into an MMO until a few months after launch, you don't buy a new operating system until about six months after launch, you don't fly into new content on an MMO with all of your precious items on you, and there's no way for a company to accurately stress test how the server will react under live stress. You have unrealistic expectations for an MMO. These bug tests are easier on any other genre because there's less load to work with, and a development team can easily simulate the load on, say, a 32 man server. The only explanation is: Stuff happens. Take a look at several times when random updates caused the floor to warp in various areas of the game. As for server load affecting teleport: The servers were unable to pull the player's POH off of the external server where player owned houses are kept (POH's are stored on separate servers, that is fact). Due to the teleport location not being spawned, the server responded with an "invalid teleport" I'm not saying that's what happened, but it is a reasonable explanation.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say: Obvious troll is obvious. I get the feeling he's not actually retired, otherwise I doubt he'd resubscribe just for the ability to test the new summoning interface. I wouldn't call Das a Jagex apologist. You can name me as one of the classic players who loves Summoning. In case anyone was in doubt that Trembake was looking for reasons to whine and cry. D'awwww

Indeed. I wish people would stop acting as though Runescape is a second life. Whether you want to admit it or not, Runescape does indeed have an effect on your life outside of runescape. For some, it makes them better at math. Others have learned English, gained online friendships, learned how to talk maturely, various lessons in economics, time management, that you have to work for your rewards, etc. To act like Runescape has no effect on someone's life is to join the bandwagon alongside the crazies who think the Columbine shooters could actually train to use guns on Doom, or that all gamers are fat. Runescape is like Fantasy meets Wall Street Journal meets School.

Indeed they will. Luckily, that's why mutes/bans exist.

Thanks. So, essentially, to those who cry that Jagex "doesn't do any QA on their updates", you get a resounding . I'm sure Jagex appreciates being talked down to by the kind of children who can't figure out where the "any" key is located on their keyboards, or why Counter Strike crashed when they pressed F10 (The guy in chat said press it for good hax).

If someone is in a burning building, is trying to run out and you push the door close while he's behind it trying to open it and he falls on the floor unconscious and burns to death, I guess that someone deserves to die too. He must just learn from it. \ [/sarcasm] Only if you shout "LOL PWNED" through the crack in the door.

Oh Mah Gawd, I play Ruenscaep phor runescap! Nawt 4 Fun0rb! omj jadox phayal! Just giving you an idea of what to expect on the RSOF today.

That's not Britney. Far too thin to be Britney.

Blood Argon kinda ruined it for anyone else who hates the trade limit, considering he spoke out greatly against the limits and bannings, and turned out to be a malicious real world trader, botter, private server runner, etc.

I hope they deny the appeal. If you've been perma-banned in the past for being rude to people, you had to have done it a lot. What's the rant here? "I was an [wagon] and Jagex banned me?"

She's cute.