its atualy farcry its really cool, but yer it is a bit boring, i dont really know how to make it more intersting tho, suggestions are more than welcome. but that font is like my signiture, size 20, bold, farcry, "PJB21" yes i really should ill do that sometime soon, it will be better wont it, lol. and thanks, ive only recently started photomanips, cos theyve always lookd so cool. lol. thats why i want cc, it help me to improve. but remember this jitouz, practise and get cc it will help you to improve alot, its what has helped me in my art work. PJB21