my comp wasnt always like this, it used to play rs flawless. but the comp turned into a family pc instead of just my personal one. ok im pretty positive its got some bad virus's but aside from installing McAfee is there any way to run runescape? and what exactly can i buy/do either way. ive got ad-aware, used S&D, avg, and about anything else you can think of. id like to just comply whipe this computer but i dont think i have the proper hardware to get it all running again and the system restore point is like 6 months ago which the pc is still in this shape. :wall: call geek squad? ha. also the McAfee box has a 30 day return policy (and i have the reciept) :D im glad to see the way you think joe