Soma2035

Because the whistle blower labeled it "torture," which is hilarious in the same way as an elementary school student crying "cruel and unusual punishment" when his mother takes away his Xbox for a weekend - making it out to be something so much worse than what it really is, in hopes of finding sympathy.

I respect the intentions but you're failing on your execution. Unless the perspective you are trying to impart on the community is "Nothing you do matters and you're all hypocrites." Being disturbed by violations of human rights has nothing to do with what nationality you claim. It has to do with your beliefs, morals, and standards. One person cannot forcibly change the world to their liking, this is true, but killing that feeling in them or demeaning it is asinine. People should be encouraged to feel that way and, more than that, to act on those feelings in productive ways to produce change. You keep saying playing video games isn't torture as if that is the only thing being scrutinized here. It is a myriad of things, from physical abuse to sleep deprivation to psychological trauma. I don't see how someone cannot come to terms with why such conditions are damaging to a person's well being. A greater wrong does not negate a lesser one. The point isn't that it's a lesser wrong, the point is that calling it torture is practically an insult to proper torture. Forcing inmates to play WoW, however inhumane it might be, really doesn't come close to being in the league that people typically associated the word "torture" with. Physical abuse? Does it involve daggers being stuck into you while you're trapped in an iron capsule? Whipped raw in public? Skin peeled away, an inch at a time, with a razor? Head forced into ice cold water until you're barely conscious? A caged rat placed on your body, with the cage set ablaze, forcing the rodent to burrow through the victim? Sleep deprivation... don't make me laugh. Dedicated college students undergo sleep deprivation all the time simply due to schoolwork overload, on top of having to manage a job. And they're paying for it. Inhumane as this situation might be, calling it torture is laughable. This isn't being done in some sadistic way, and it doesn't even come close to the brutality that the word torture generally implies. It's horrible that there are people are doing this to each other, but the reactions here are way exaggerated.

Where do you really need the +3 mage attack or whatever the master wand adds? +3 mage attack is not going to be more useful then the 5% extra damage* sol adds or the 10% extra damage* the chaotic staff adds. The only thing the master wand has going for it imo is that mage pures can use it. *In the magic damage column. Also, what's the amulet of ranging like compared to fury again? Overall your list was pretty damn good but a few areas not 100% accurate. When you're PKing, magic attack can often matter more. For instance, while TBing / Entangling, I'd take an extra .5% accuracy over an additional 10% damage (on a wonderful max hit of 30) any day. It sort of applies to Ancients too - you're usually trying to force them to change to mage pray and/or freeze them. You'll lose a lot more kills because you didn't have 20 more seconds to deal damage than you will because the 3-4 casts you used didn't do 10% more damage.

Would they not have shared had you teled? Nah, I just didnt want to [bleep] someone over by teleing because I was lowest defence bonus there and basically her [bleep]. I had teled mid kill when I got Virtus legs and they still shared. Plus I know they'd all bless if I died so I went in hero mode and wanted to see if I could live. As long as you've helped in the kill, you get the split. Teleing and dying have the same result. ;) Save yourself some effort next time and live.

Why not sit tight and wait before making any premature claims to guilt? Notice that a significant amount of evidence has been provided to show the scripts are perfectly legal, including the fact that no one using the scripts in the ways prescribed thus far has been banned or in any other way punished or warned by Jagex. The only evidence at all to suggest that these scripts are not permissible is the obscure interpretation of the 1:1 rule set forth by Jagex. So again, why is it suddenly guilty until proven innocent?

That's a pretty petty example. It's obvious that it was a sarcastic response, didn't add anything to what was being discussed, etc. It wasn't modded for being off-topic, it was modded for being derogatory. And in fact, the rest of the comment WAS on-topic. Sarcasm or not, the comment can only be construed as an derogatory if the action that was being remarked upon was considered wrong.

Except that's all water under the drawbridge now. TEF's administrators has already determined that Tip.It is not capable of changing to their liking, hence them moving on to their own forum instead.

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EDIT: WTF how did my edit turn into a new post?

I don't know if you noticed, but a lot more than 2 people felt a huge need to see certain moderators removed from power. Two of which demonstrated within the past week yet again that they are willing to do something purely out of pride, that they KNEW was wrong. I've noticed whats happened, and i've said multiple times that I cannot condone every action - say it was the right one, but I will say as a user, you only see so much of what goes on, and you guys are quite biased in your personal judgements of who is bad/good as a moderator. I'll repeat what I mentioned earlier. Logdotzip noted that a certain moderator, who I will not name for privacy reasons, was "good at deleting posts." Said post was deleted for being derogatory towards a moderator. In the world I live in, someone telling me that I'm good at something does not constitute a derogatory remark unless whatever I'm doing is something I perceive as wrong. Obviously, the moderator who deleted the post felt something was wrong with deleting posts... so he deletes the post. And half the thread to go with it. Ironic, isn't it?

I don't know if you noticed, but a lot more than 2 people felt a huge need to see certain moderators removed from power. Two of which demonstrated within the past week yet again that they are willing to do something purely out of pride, that they KNEW was wrong.

No, I'm using this analogy because it was a 2 hour long conversation that I was personally witness to, that pissed a LOT of people off... and you're asking everyone to relive it lol. Don't worry though, I'm pretty sure the whole thing will come out pretty soon, and then it'll just be another thing for people to [bleep] about.

Way to add more fuel to the flames...

You have a very odd definition of fair. Just recently, a post was deleted for notifying a specific moderator he was "good at deleting posts." The given reason was that the post was a derogatory comment about a moderator. News flash - telling someone they're good at something is not derogatory, unless you consider that something to be inherently wrong. Ironically, their solution was to delete the post. Why would this fansite lie? Dumb pride. Plenty of evidence has been shown, supporting that these scripts were perfectly legal as defined by previous statements by Jagex and the current wording of the rule. But of course, they can't admit that a mistake was made. So they need SOMETHING to make it look as if they weren't assuming "guilty until proven innocent." Besides, it's just not about contacting Jagex - it's the way Jagex is contacted. There are hundreds of ways you can phrase the question, not all of which convey the proper message. In either case, if the administration believes that it's against the rules even though plenty of arguments have been made for why it's not (arguments that have, for the most part, gone unaddressed), then it's the fansite's responsibility to contact Jagex and provide the evidence. And finally, the most important piece of evidence is still completely lacking. It was claimed by the administration that its interest is in protecting the users from being punished for something they were lead to believe is permissible. If that's the case, the administration should at the very least show evidence that using these scripts, according to the given instructions (maintaining a 1:1 input to output ratio) has previously resulted in a ban or some other form of punishment.

Of course it does. TIF admins are gods among men remember? :shades:

By my understanding of a touchscreen emulating script and the posts here explaining in detail the actions performed, I would have to say that using it could endanger your account of being banned, temporarily or otherwise. (In-game, of course.) I do not claim to be an expert in its usage, only the guidelines that have been outlined for staff to follow and the understanding of the (summary in this case) rules as laid out by Jagex indicate that references to said script would be best removed. E: Fixed an incomplete sentence, d'oh. By your understanding, but you have no evidence whatsoever that this has been punished in the past, and many people have already pointed out that these scripts are in accord with Jagex's "one input, one output" policy. A key stroke is a physical input every bit as much as a tap on a touchscreen, and the resulting output is the same. Das is probably right - you should have the channels of communication open, to ask for confirmation from Jagex directly. But at the moment, you hardly have enough evidence to support your claim that using such scripts puts players at risk. Certainly not enough to take action against those who would provide these scripts, unless you are also implying that your policy is now "guilty until proven innocent."

I see that as more of an issue with Jagex who has not maintained their standards with current technology rather than Tip.it's. If a fansite chooses to enforce the rules of the game it's about, if the rules of the game have not changed to meet current standards of technology and people are still actively punished for such things, and if they choose to do so out of the interest of protecting their users I don't see much of an alternative. Who's been actively punished for using a touchscreen, or touchscreen emulating script?

For construction, do Mahogany tables or Zombie impling jars. Demon thrones are faster but require a much higher level and prohibitively expensive.

First kill of the trip, and Ancient goes "Lol Virtus Top." Third kill was mine... what do you know. Another Virtus Top. Split from the first one. Second one. Both sold for 37M.

Oh well that was certainly called for.

If you're poor as dirt, Nex isn't for you. Supplies cost a lot, gear costs a lot, and there's always a risk of something going wrong (server crash, internet troubles, etc) that can set you back a long way. Asides from Pernix body though, most GE prices are about right, and you can potentially just join random Coinshare teams from RSOF if you're absolutely insistent on going after Nex now. I'd recommend against it but that's your decision.

I think you already found the problem yourself. If accuracy is the issue, you need a higher ranged level and better equipment. That's really all you can do. Switching to Infinity boots will not improve your DPS very much. If you're worried about accuracy, get down to the Frost dragons resource dungeon, and get a pair of Ranger boots. The attack bonus is a significant improvement over Snakeskin. Archer's ring (i) would help a lot, too, but use it for most of the fight, and switch on Ring of wealth when you're at the end. You can also try Eagle-eye kiteshield over the Spectral spirit shield. It has almost as much magic defense, but has range attack too. You could also go for a Divine / Elysian, but that'll take a bit more money. I don't know if the Verac's helm is necessary with your current setup. If you don't need the added defense, perhaps switch it to more offensive gear too.

Oh yeah. So thats why maxed players still team it regulary. They do it because its afkable Or they're not doing it for money.

Join the losing team with 2 minutes to go in the game. Finish. Hop to another world with 2 minutes to go. Join the losing team. Finish. Hop again, repeat. You'll need several worlds on rotation, and probably some help since I don't think the non-CW worlds are crowded enough, but it's easily possible to do 10+ games in an hour.

I haven't been in the virtus market, but I highly doubt it'll rise. Basically the only use for Virtus is soul wars, as far as I can tell. Very little demand = falling prices. I feel your pain, I got caught with 3 elysians in their recent crash. #-o