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Well I think you're awesome and the world would be a sad place without you if the other guy had things his way :D Funny you mention the wording, that's another common trait. Sometimes people have a hard time trying to identify their feelings. My partner has mild aspergers which is kinda similar. One of the hardest workers I've ever met had Autism, she could only do 1 task at a time but once she remembered it, she never forgot and did a much better job than anyone else. It makes me feel sad when people under estimate people with mental illness or a disability. From my experience with down syndrome people I've come to learn that they have INCREDIBLE memories! For example one guy recognized every face he looked at, another remembered the number plates of everyone who worked at Woolworths and another had great strength in fact a little too much, he pushed the trolleys straight through a glass window :-#

:lol: A bridesmaid standing out in the open will put your wedding out of place. Just kidding!!

No two people who have Autism or Aspergers are the same so good on you for saying that. In fact many born with either Autism or Aspergers may lack in some social skills but have incredibly high IQ's, especially in their area of interest :D In fact Suziangel would be a great person to speak to about this. Firstly, I've already answered the topic. Secondly if my post is spam then so is your second post in response to sword. Thirdly, we've already spoken about this on two other occasions through PM, unsuccessfully. Lastly, I'd have to say you're pretty darn inaccurate and you shouldn't go preaching how accurate you think you are to the person who knows themselves best. When someone asks you to stop a certain behaviour because it upsets them and you repeat it, it's called harassment. If you want the use of the PM system, then I suggest you send your reply there and start using it yourself. It's really quite simple, leave me alone and don't post on my behalf again. Then everything will be super duper 8-)

I remember having the pleasure of speaking to some nice troops from the middle east and some others from Israel. They thought Australian's were weird because we were always in a hurry. They spoke rather slowly, while my friends and I were speaking rather quickly and even using slang which is the quicker way of saying normal words. Then we lost patience with them (lovely guys) but they were talking too slow for us to stick around! :lol: To be honest I think it's mostly just western cultures. A bit off-topic but if you want to read something interesting, read up on table manners and dinner conversations in different cultures. One thing I will never be rushed with is enjoying my time out. I refuse to be told to hurry up, eat quicker, walk faster etc Whenever Brent tells me to hurry up, I purposely take my time. I rather like enjoying my walks and leisure time slowly and am a firm believer that if you keep going so fast in life then you'll miss out on it. But there is slow and then there is slllllllloooow... I have patience but little of it :lol:

See you're advanced :lol: I think it would be funny if you went around and asked your male friends how they clean up and compare it to your girlfriends expectations of you :P Or ironically her parents expect her to clean perfectly and that's why she's so anal, learned behaviour. Sounds like your high :P

@ death most males I know spill milk on the floor and then clean it up with with a towel by mopping and slopping it around with their foot. She should be grateful :lol: I've had a fantastic day today hung out with my friends and looking for a kitty cat meow! Oh and then I came on the net only to find out this loser who used to mention my name like it had it's own religion has decided to take it up again. I realize my life is so much more interesting than theirs but seriously! :ugeek: Oh and I'm going to be a bridesmaid @ Rick's wedding!!! :thumbsup:

Please don't ever attempt to guess my response again. In fact, don't use my name or refer to me in any of your posts from now on, that would be fantastic :

Kk you have two choices, 1. we live in brisbane too I can organise for the pair of you to have a chat on the phone or in person or 2. you ask a specific question or pm me with the link to your problem again and I'll get him to fill it out for you by tonight :D

I do curls and presses lifting my son up numerous times a day :lol: He's 11 kilos at the moment :P I've never actually tried weight lifting, I'm a manly woman but not ya know....a MANLY woman :lol: What? No deleria yet :)

Rick, go to bed :lol: Jeez these people from brisbane staying up to 2am on a thursday night.. :P Personally I like the idea of uniforms for these reasons: * I can't stand the competition to wear trendy clothes * Representing the school - imagine turning up to a sporting event against other schools in mid-drift t-shirts, baggy jeans while your team mate is wearing flower power gear. Peace. Man. Shot put. What. ID tags? Yeah no, you'll still look like a tosser. * Easily identified - If you're somewhere you shouldn't be and aren't smart enough to change your clothes

If the baby has no consciousness then I don't see how it can be cruel even if it is for religious reasons, the baby obviously isn't suffering and if it were, certainly doesn't know so or feel it.

Yeah I had no time for 'hard to get' it was either shape up or ship out :lol:

Two words for you, dopamine & serotonin. Study - and you'll understand that you actually need to replenish and balance both chemicals in clinical depression before you can reach a 'turn around' mentality.

I used to think that too until a child predator got a hold of my land line number and house address when I was younger. And once I put too many details on the internet and was harassed not too long ago. I agree with abby - Your house wasn't the best meeting place, probably would have been better in a public place with someone you know. But what's done is done.

I was replying to madman's post not your thread question. If you flip through the thread you'll see my actual answer to your question. You would have concluded that if you read it :)

Circles will always happen on forums though, people who have been there longer are going to have their friends and people who enjoy reading each others posts etc As a newbie on a forum you're going to struggle finding your feet but if people made an effort to get to know regular users and vice verser regular users get to know the newbies then it's a friendly place to be. I've seen this happen on every forum I've been a part of for the last 10 years, even adult and parenting forums. The only time I don't like circles is when some of the members are very mean and give new members a hard time or they gang up on them. I don't really think I'm a part of any circle anyway, prefer to be a lone ranger of 3, me, myself and I :lol: I tell people if they piss me off even if they're my best friend and even if my enemy is being picked on, I'll stick up for them. Every sub section of the forums divide people from one another if you get what I'm gettin at. They're kind of circles too. I'd think that mods and even admins would have circles too.

Mental illness is nature versus nurture. Sometimes people are born with mental illness, it's hereditary. And sometimes the gene lingers around because with some disorders (such as bi-polar) the usual onset is in your early 20's. So sometimes as you described it, the disorder does "magically wake up" in a person. Other times there is a traumatic event that has taken place for example, death of a loved one, violence, sexual abuse, rape in the environment the person grew up in. What's more important than comparing the two is the fact that it has the same result. Traumatic events can make severe neurological changes to create the chemical imbalance within the brain. Whether the disorder was nature or nurture is irrelevant, the person has the same disorder which works in the same way. There is a reason people give credit to disorders and that is because it's been proven. And those who are too ignorant to study it or look in to the situation would conclude that there is too much emphasis placed on it. That's like saying people are placing too much emphasis that the world is round. If you look at one of my posts on page 2 you'll find a study reporting that out of a sample of 6000+ suicides, 98% of them were accountable for mental health, in particular severe depression. When you read studies like that, people place a lot of emphasis on their conclusions. Your mum is a wise woman, if bi-polar runs in the family, the more siblings who have it, the higher the chances of passing it on. All of my mum's brothers and sisters, including her mother + 2-3 generations that we know of before that had the disorder, I was misdiagnosed with it for 7 years because of how strong the genetic links were. Be warned that by my previous post that rapid-cycling bi-polar disorder is often misdiagnosed with those who suffer an anxiety disorder, the two share the exact same symptoms and will need psychiatric evaluation to distinguish the two. Children having 15-30% chance of developing the disorder if one parent has the disorder. This rises to 50%-75% when both parents have it. And if a brother or sister has the disorder, you have 15-25% chance. http://www.bipolarhelpcenter.com/unders ... qNavId=1.8 Also here is the advice my good friend (clinical psychologist & author) Dr. Kristi had to share a while ago: But within saying that, don't go around hyperventilating thinking you have it too. Genetics is a game of hit or miss, it has been known to play dice and skip generations. You will find some sort of abuse in all bi-polar family history but the argument that can stem from this is the fact that psychological help and medication/counselling wasn't available back in those days. If you were being abused in your family and reported it to the police, they would drag you by the ear back to your parents because abuse was acceptable in those days. It was also acceptable to slap around women and threaten your children. People with disorders more often than not also have some kind of a substance abuse problem, alcohol and drugs exacerbate mental illness. Therefore if you have a borderline schizophrenic bi-polar father who is an alcoholic, you probably will be shot at and watch your siblings receive beatings. So then you're left with "well was it genetics, the environment or a little from column A and B." Then comes the question, well if your father's, father was like that, then what the hell did that father do to him for things to turn out that way? At least that's one thing that progresses in the future; each generation treats their family that little bit better than how they were treated. Someone has to be the one to stand up and end the line of abuse in their genetics.

You don't want to see your father because it screws with your routine? What routine exactly? This is your father, what routine could possibly be more important than seeing him? Adjust to your new routine. If you honestly believe that people are going to adapt to your routine for the rest of your life you're kidding yourself. You need to weigh up with what's more important before what you want. Family > routine. If you study for a particular class on Thursday evenings then go to your dad's house, say hello, have a quick chat about what's new and then bring out your books and study. The only problem is if you want to study and he's trying to take you out somewhere. That's when you say "no thanks I have to study" if he makes you go then talk to your mum and negotiate something. Anything in your routine at home, you're quite capable of doing at your dad's house. The world doesn't shift for you the sooner you get it, the better. At worst, negotiate another day or time to see him but I still believe whatever it is that's so important in your routine you can achieve it at your dad's house.

He heard it in the playground from the cool kids making fun of them of course, so it has to be true! Lent - try to understand it more often than not it's a chemical imbalance that the person has no control over. It's been proven in neurological images with dopamine and serotonin levels. This is the best quote I've ever read about suicide "To see the suicide as pathetic, as most people do, is to fail to confront the idea that he may have reached a moment in time in which his mind, far from being clouded, was more clear than it had ever been" (John Bloom, 2003.)

My internet seems to be running faster so here is a good source... "An important WHO Study established that out of a total of 6003 suicides, 98% had a psychiatric disorder." ...."Further, the Global Burden of Diseases Study has projected a rise of more than 50% in mental disorders by the year 2020 (from 9.7% in 1990to 15% in 2020). And one third of this rise will be due to Major Depression."... ARTICLE Year : 2003 | Volume : 1 | Issue : 2 | Page : 3-16 Towards a Suicide Free Society: Identify Suicide Prevention as Public Health Policy Ajai R Singh, Shakuntala A Singh The Editors, Mens Sana Monographs, Mumbai, India http://www.msmonographs.org/article.asp ... last=Singh I'll edit this section if I find anymore...

Yep they do in particular the more intelligent species of animals/mammals. Although some would argue that external stimuli is the cause of abnormal behaviour which amounts to suicide. For example dogs sometimes starve themselves to death when they have lost their mate in comparison to a scorpion who stings itself to death to escape unbearable heat waves. Then there are debates such as whether bees know that they're about to die when they sting or why some female spiders give birth to their babies on the inside of their bodies. When the sacs hatch, they eat their way out of their mother's body.

Damn killer beat me to it :P was gonna say.... could've been worse, she could have bitten off his [bleep] in a drunken fellatio.

I've gotten plenty online but only a couple in real life playing. My cousin Sarah is a highly regarded poker player in Adelaide, had a blast going around to all the tournaments with her. She usually finishes in the top 3 or 4, lately walked away with a local $2000.00 prize money. She calls me her good luck charm : I'm getting better, come a long way since getting pissed a few years ago wanting to play strip poker and then treating the cards as if I were playing black jack. What a night... Warren's signature sums it up pretty well :lol:

Wanting someone to live because we would feel better within ourselves if that person were here is equally as selfish. There are many reasons for suicide... probably one of the most popular ones is mental illness in which at that very fraction of a moment the person doesn't have the right chemical balance in their brain to find an alternative solution to suicide. In that split moment of time, suicide is the only option and not a lot of people 'get it'. There are a few things that have concerned me for a long time: 1. Anti depressants and teenagers - more often than not makes them psychotic and top themselves off yet doctors still prescribe it and make it widely available. There are also studies that show anti depressants increase the risk of suicide in the elderly. 2. I believe doctors shouldn't have the legal right to diagnose mental health. At Brisbane's north hospitals alone, 2 in 3 people who have been misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder (just 1 disorder of many) have been diagnosed by doctors. They diagnose using a DSM IV (in other words, straight out of the text book) so they don't challenge the behaviour and symptoms. Doctors should stick to general health and refer mental health subjects to psychiatry. Unless they've studied both. 3. Doctors often prescribe the wrong medications for mental health. I'm not entirely sure if the law has recently changed someone can go in to the doctors office, know the right kind of symptoms to describe and walk out of the office with a prescription for highly mind altering drugs in under half an hour. Sometimes it takes two visits before the doctor will prescribe narcotics but it has the same result. 4. Narcotics when given to the wrong disorder are a death sentence to people of any age. An example, I know a doctor who gave their rapid-cycling bipolar patient anti depressants. If you don't understand what that means = basically a death sentence. In simple English the anti depressant exacerbates hypomania within the disorder which has the potential to be dangerous to that patients life and to others. 5. There is plenty of research that links mothers with mental disorders to having children with autism and or aspergers. While they haven't conclusively correlated the two studies have shown that children with autism/aspergers are twice as likely (and in one study up to 6 times as likely in one schizophrenic study) to have mother with mental illness. 6. The correlation between life satisfaction and happiness/depression is a dead give away. In Western society even though we are a 1st world country there is a lot of emphasis on materialistic things and as Raven mentioned routine. 7. People are becoming more depressed with their lives in general. Turn on the news, it's not hard to see why. There is a statistical association between news reports and suicide, particularly in men under the age of 45 years. Obviously there are a whole lot of other reasons such as drug use, sexual abuse, domestic abuse, emotional abuse, horrible parenting, however, people who usually commit suicide are the mentally ill. Oh forgot financial hardship that's another huge one, watch out for suicide increases with this economic crisis. Sorry for the basic, general knowledge instead of something better written with references but my isp lied to me and told me that my broadband would work fine in my new house, turns out it's worse than bloody dial up. It takes me ages just to log on to here yet alone get sources from journals.

Wow this is still around?? I did this when I was like 15/16 or 17 can't remember which one. I cracked up laughing over the racing car and my friend just looked at me like I was an absolute idiot. I asked him what the hell his problem was and he said "You haven't even turned up your sound!! Now go and listen to it with your speakers turned on!" :lol: