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I knew someone was going to post a picture lol I wasn't game enough :lol:

There are plenty of people who don't share the same views as me on this post. I haven't said boo to them. What I'm referring to is people personally attacking my preference distastefully. I'm not going to give trolls any examples but I'll PM one to you now. You should know I mean best intentions insane lol

Holy crap you actually read all those pages back there? I was going to say that's the last time I give you relationship advice :P *takes the lovin' back* haha Kilo - You still haven't answered any of my questions :(

I didn't say time makes your problems vanish, I said it heals, which it does. This means the problem is still sometimes there, however small or big depends on the individual. Yes and each also needs time :P @ the advice you gave windex: Brent never would have ever found out that I cheated on him because he was away in the army. I could've keep it a secret and knew that we'd be together, happily for life. The very next night I rang him and told him everything that happened, full well knowing I could have lost the best thing that happened to my life by owning up to what I did. When a girl cheats on you, depending how she acts afterwards is completely relevant so bravo for your comment. Hate doesn't fix anything and you're absolutely right. Brent handled it very well, it didn't even seem to affect him. All he cared about was I told him the truth and he knew it would never happen again because of my honesty and he was right. I'm also never afraid to approach him no matter how bad things get because of how calmly he handles issues. Because of this, I don't ever hide anything from him. Maybe you could take something from that windex.

Things will get better Ricky *fluffles*

Things could always be worse. My best friend died the day before I was going to let him know how I felt about him. Better moments of shame and hurt than a life time of never knowing. Rick - Why would you disagree that time heals? Some things stay with people for life but over time it's still not as painful as it originally was.

Dr Phil should pay me everytime I say this... "The only thing that is worse than being in a bad relationship for 2 years, is being in a bad relationship for 2 years and 1 day." Be thankful you found out sooner than later. You'll be angry and upset for a while the only thing that cures heartache is time. Look to the future - One day you'll be staring in to your wife's eyes, dancing on your wedding day and you won't even remember who this girl is. That being said is it really over? I cheated on Brent in the first couple of weeks we were together, he gave me a second chance and I would never dream of blowing it.

Hey monkey you're invited to dinner after the baby is born, there's no hiding these puppies no matter how big the table is. Let's see who's uncomfortable then ;)

You hoped you weren't sounding like an immature 14 year old so I made the assumption that you were 14. And no it didn't take very long at all. Thanks for the opinion but it's not a reasonable expectation and quite often you're going to be disappointed. This being said, let's hope you and I don't cross the same restaurant ;) I notice nobody is posting what their mothers think? I'm also wondering the correlation between mothers who actually breast fed and mothers who put their child straight on to a bottle opposed to their opinions. And if they did put their newborn straight on to a bottle, did they educate themselves or were they purely lazy? Personally, I don't know one female who would agree with you. The females I know are educated of the benefits too. I really am interested in what your mothers have to say so please, if you're up to the challenge, I'm looking forward to reading the responses you get compared to your own attitude. I'm also interested to see average age of person who is offended compared to average age who thinks it is perfectly natural.

Getting 80 slayer and downloading music all day long YAY! My life is hard :P Other than that, marketing some jewellery. So if you live anywhere near Brisbane and are interested in a gift, house party, wedding event pop me a PM and I'll show you some shiny things, same quality but cheaper than any jewellery store :D You can order from me online or I'll come and show you my collection at an agreed location :thumbsup:

Range_This11 - Gday :D Your post was a relief to read. Now if only people who were uncomfortable with it all spoke the same way you did. Some people make way too much of a big deal. I've already pointed this out but I'll say it again anyway.. Because breastfeeding is protected by some serious laws, mothers are more likely to do it without asking others how they feel, purely because it is absolutely acceptable. Therefore, it is only fair to say if you're very uncomfortable about it, to speak to the mother not the other way around. Just as if someone was to have a cigarette in front of you, if they can smoke there, it's your responsibility to ask if you don't like it. If someone is drinking in front of you, they can legally drink there, it's your responsibility to ask or move and so forth. Some people are courteous but to believe all people should take special precaution around you or others who are completely offended, is ridiculous. That is not the best way to go about this at all. The expectations you're asking for is not a reasonable goal. All mothers are not going to tread on egg shells around people when it's lawfully protected everywhere in the country. What is a better way to go about it, because the expectations you're after are too high is to believe that "some" women will tread egg shells around you, other women you will have to tread egg shells around them. That way, when you go out in the big wide world, things aren't going to upset you with reasonable expectations. To say that all people should deal with one side and all people should deal with the other, is a goal people often mistakenly do. It is not possible, it will not happen and it will only upset you even more next time it happens. Make a reasonable expectation and such things don't affect you psychologically as much as it would when you made things appear as absolutes. "ALL people should do this" "it MUST happen this way" "things SHOULD be this way" very upsetting words when you tell yourself too often. As a breastfeeding mother I'm going to have to go out in to the public, accepting that I may be approached by people who are offended and sometimes not in very polite ways either. Now if I went out in to the public with my new born with the attitude that "everybody can get bent, this is the way I'm doing things whether you're upset or not and I'll tell you to go jump if you approach me" I'm only going to be upset when my expectations aren't met. I'm not going to deal with people who approach me very well. In the end, it will only be upsetting. This applies to people who are offended by it as well. You would be going out in public, accepting that you may be confronted with a breastfeeding mother. You may approach them and sometimes the reply you get is not going to be very polite. If you went out in to public with the attitude of "well I don't care if its protected by the law, you should respect how everybody feels and you should go do it at home" You're only going to be upsetting yourself every time it happens. You'll be taught this in psychology if you're studying it at university range. At 14 years of age I'm believing it's just a high school class but I could be wrong. (I noticed you said you have a "psych class" and just for the record, your wording is getting clever so it must be a pretty decent class.) That's pretty reasonable. I do notice however, it's males who mainly have this opinion and not females. I wonder why ;) Could it be the case of unless you're a mother, you'll never know? Here's a good one for you guys - Approach your mother, give her your opinion and see what the two of you can discuss :D

^^ That was one of the first ever things I remember learning in "interpersonal skills & development" class in psych. It wasn't the fact that babies looked the same though they concentrated more on the fact that boys don't get dressed in pink and girls don't get dressed in blue and so people were likely to call the babies in the experiment boys or girls based on socially acceptable colours. In the same activity we were able to conclude that there were more "pet" names for baby girls over baby boys lol

AWEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! enough of a thread push to grab my attention lurking as a guest :lol: She is gorgeous dragon!! Have fun on your visit! Depends really on your circumstances. I was told for several years, my partner and I could never have children. I stayed with him despite one of my biggest dreams of having a family one day. I fell pregnant on the pill (which is supposed to be 99% effective) and several doctors opinions that Brent was never going to have a family unless he adopted. When I found out: 1. I was absolutely astonished - I did 7 tests and 2 blood tests before believing the results. I've never had to go to the doctors before because I just don't get sick enough. It felt like I had the flu times 50 and was originally there for my first ever lot of antibiotics in years. He's the one who decided to check for pregnancy, even though I told him it wasn't possible. 2. I've had a great pregnancy - the first 2 months sucked I was very sick but flu like not vomit like. Unless he kicks me, I don't even realise he's there! Time has gone past so quickly. 3. I can't wait to hold him. My friend is half the size of me and gave birth to a 9 1/2 pound baby if she can get through it so can I lol

fg - my sons head is too low the final decision will be made on the 27th of this month about the c section. It's been very weird, we were able to hear his heart beat 7 weeks before we were supposed to and his insides and brain development happened 7 weeks in advance. The nurse has already said he's a big boy and there's still 3 months to go - He's either coming early or is going to be no less than 8 pounds (that's my opinion). If his head isn't in the right position in my placenta by the 27th, he'll be out early by cesarean or it will cause him distress. Our original appointment was in August but the doctor insisted the hospital make our appointment sooner. Sure is mate, we have a soccer star on our hands. He's kicking me right now as we speak... :D Not quite strong enough to kick a malteser out of the belly button (if you've seen that aussie advert :lol: ) but strong enough to make me uncomfortable or go running to the bathroom. I'm waiting until he's big enough to see the outline of his foot in my tummy. I want to get a black and white photograph of it. Something like this.. but professionally done.

If you had asked me nicely I would have no problem letting you know this. Please don't resort to swearing at me to get your post heard. The more civil you are, the more inclined I will be to answer your question in the best possible way. I agree with you, throwing someone out of a restaurant doesn't have to be a solution, that isn't what I was trying to say. Asking somebody to bring a bottle next time or even asking them to go to the bathroom is also discrimination. While it is lawfully protected, it will be done and there is no stopping it from happening. I think a lot of this could be solved with offended people, being civil and just asking. I would respect somebody with a positive manner and accept our moral differences. I do believe that because a mother and her new born hold these rights, it is not going to work majority in favour the other way around, asking people if they are offended by breast feeding.

I've already posted a reply to your question and I've also quoted a newspaper as an example of how it is discrimination. Please watch how you speak to people because I really wouldn't like to be responsible for your long holiday off the forums.

Abyssalwhip - Yes there is the option of bottles. There is also the option of buying a breast pump to fill the bottles. While it's perfectly legal, I shouldn't be obliged to buy bottles nor a breast pump. I will breast feed my child where ever I like and if you have a problem with that I certainly don't have a problem seeing you in court for discrimination :D P.S If you can't talk like a civilized person, don't bother coming back - I will be reporting your post :

This isn't about what we're on the forums for. This is about discussing a specific topic which happens to be breast feeding. I've already acknowledged the fact that I would try my best to accommodate those who approach me for feeling uncomfortable. Your opinion has been heard and accepted Zierro. I'm not disagreeing on what is or what isn't morally right, we've already spoken about this. It will still be done :D When you decide to bring the topic back to it's original purpose - to discuss breast feeding we'll talk more.

Legality is completely relevant. Whether it's morally right to you or whether it's morally right to I, it's acceptable and will be done. I'm not here to take things out of context we've already agreed previously in another thread that morally, anything can be compared to anything (so why you're trying to argue this is beyond me) What we're talking about is breastfeeding not porn. And obviously showing porn to children is illegal because it's morally wrong in the face of law. Breast feeding is perfectly legal because it is morally right in the face of law. So instead of comparing apples to oranges, (which we both know goes around in circles) let's stay focussed and concentrate on breast feeding. I never mis read anything thanks. You assumed I was agreeing with you, when in fact I was starting a completely new reply. Misreading = ftl indeed. --

No because that would be illegal. Breast feeding your child in public is perfectly legal. I've already stated this lol

Then why wouldn't you teach your child that's how babies get fed? If it's so offensive, come up and ask me nicely that you're not ready to teach your children about the facts of life. I'll see what I can do for you but no promises.

While it's completely lawful honey, I don't have to ask how you feel about diddley squat : I'm not sure what country you live in but when I say "starving", I'm not using the term literally :roll: It's slang in my country for "fairly hungry". Sometimes when your baby cries to be fed, it's going to be fairly hungry. That is in no form child abuse, I'm the last person you should be preaching this to. I have every legal right to feed my child where ever. Asking me not to feed my child or go somewhere else is discrimination against a mother and her new born.

Yes public nudity is illegal, however there is a complete exception for all breastfeeding mothers. Breastfeeding is encouraged everywhere in Australia, including restaurants. Comments like yours are generally frowned upon, not only by Australian women but especially medical staff. If you're from a culture that is against women exposing parts of their body even if in a completely natural state, that's okay they exist. However, bringing your beliefs upon more liberal countries doesn't quite cut the cheese. Just as I wouldn't breast feed or expose large amounts of my flesh in other countries, others shouldn't be coming to such liberal countries and expressing their anger at our norms. I'd have you up for discrimination, want to write that down, date it and sign it? ;) No? How about you go ask that nice restaurant manager over there to do the same, here's a pen. That's like me asking you to wait 30 minutes when you're incapable of feeding yourself and are already starving. If it worried you that much and approached me, I'd be more than happy to wait until after you finished eating. I can't however, guarantee that you'll enjoy a screaming kid while trying to enjoy every bite of your steak though. This is my kid we're talking about, he's going to take after his mummy and have serious lung power. He's going to be heard!

If the baby is hungry, in short YES, it's absolutely necessary. Just be thankful you don't live in Africa or somewhere where it's socially encouraged to breast feed in front of everybody else's children. They gather around, watch and learn so they know how to feed their child when the time comes. "restaurant" - Just because you go to a nice fancy place doesn't mean you act like a complete snobby twit. If it's such a big deal for your taste and not up to your standards of behaviour, go home and go ask Mr. Jeeves to cook you a roast, you bloody whiner :D Just my opinion but if my kid groaned about it in the restaurant, I'd flick his ear and tell him to grow up. That's after I tease him for seeing his first boob :twisted:

You felt sick about a perfectly natural thing and something hospitals encourage mothers to help their baby get the nutrition they need?? Don't be coming near my neighbourhood anytime soon because I tell you what if my baby is hungry, I'm going to shove my shirt up and feed my bloody son whether you feel sick or not. Turn around or eat somewhere else if you have a problem with it! My son isn't an animal and he's going to eat the same time as we do. If you have a problem with that, build a bridge and get over it sunshine. I could really care less about what you're trying to eat. In the bathroom? Yeah real sanitary, smart thinking there :roll: And to be quite frank with anyone who has a problem with it, don't be coming near me anytime soon because if my son is hungry, there's going to be boobs in your face!! Take a picture and maybe it will last longer :D