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I knew it. Nice one. By the way you guys looked like total tossers in those videos.

My dad likes The Eagles, Bob Dylan and Niel Diamond among others. I love The Eagles, I've seen Niel Diamond in concert which was great and I don't mind a bit of Dylan either.

Actually those are all wrong. I am about to reveal the truth behind Zilch's amazing drums: [hide]The drums are actually two pencils, one turned upside down, one eraser side up. We play on different sized Harry Potter books for a unique sound. Some songs used old Yu-Gi-Oh! tins. I got these from Stosh.[/hide] WOW. That is the kind of reply Zilch is looking for. Glad you enjoyed. So this is a joke afterall?...

The Leper Affinity - Opeth.

:shock: .... :cry: Good god. Someone please inject a vial of strychnine into my heart. Please... :(

"Hitler had the right idea, he was just an underachiever." I'm sure many people feel the same way as you from time to time. They just don't admit it.

(1) You're the one making this argument and I've persistantly asked you to back it up. Just because I've not come up with evidence counter to what you claim dosen't mean that you shouldn't have to. You're making these claims; the burden of proof lies squarely on your shoulders. I've not even made an argument either way (in regards to thier mental state and them supposedly being born in the wrong bodies) apart from my branching argument that it's society that's the threat to those that are different rather than the opposite, which is what you're arguing. But if it makes you any happier I'll work on something tomorrow to make your argument for you. I'll google 'sex change' and 'danger to society' and 'threat to others' and 'crime rate' just for good measure. (2) And why do you think that is? People become outsiders because people such as yourself paint them out to be dangers to society when it's society which is often the danger to them. I've given reference to an article regarding this line of argument on a page gone by and if you haven't caught up with that, then I'll come up with more tomorrow. I'd also like to refer you to an entry two posts of mine ago which is in response to you and which you ever so conveniantly seem to have brisked over. (3) Yes, I have a liberal attitude when it comes to lifestyle choice. However I never once disagreed with you when it comes to these matters not beeing taken lightly. I thorougly agree that these people should be evaluated and councilled through the process, but the choice should not be denied because people happen to oppose it via thier morality as if it's some sort of crown to behold. Ask yourself, why the hell do people ask questions if people never answer them and act as if they have a precedent to turn it around and ask one themselves? There's a chronology here. He asked the question first. Answer it or ignore it; don't turn it around as if you have the right to. I'm giving you advice here, it's just making you look like you don't want to reveal information in fear it will lose you the argument. Whether that's your motive for turning the question around or not, that's how I'm percieving it.

I never sad it IS wrong..I just said that *I* think it is wrong to do..does that make sense? :-k What I mean is, I never said it's absolutely wrong, deadly, bad, and stupid to get a sex change...I just said that my opinion was that it is wrong. After all, the thread is for you to give an opinion on sex changes. Opinions are great if they coexist with reasons. Otherwise it's just boring and kinda annoying to be honest. I'd be glad to hear any kind of reason you can give as to why you have that opinion. I don't care whether you have that opinion or not, It's why that matters.

Nuff said. He killed so many frigging people why are we discussing this? Because some of us recognise that the axiom of this discussion is that the guy was a total tosser. Explain that to me because when I looked up the slang tosser, it came up with some interesting results :shame: and if my definition of the word tosser is correct it seems you agree with me. By tosser I mean bad person. And yes, I do agree that he is a tosser but I don't agree that we shouldn't be discussing this.

Nuff said. He killed so many frigging people why are we discussing this? Because some of us recognise that the axiom of this discussion is that the guy was a total tosser.

If you take out the racial hygene, the propoganda and the war in which he was undoubtedly agressive rather than passive in starting you could almost say his bringing germany out of depression and going on a blitzkrieg (pun intended) of industrial and infrastructure reform was a good thing, if they weren't motivated by military expansion. I doubt his motives were pure going on how he annexed some surrounding lands and how much of the economic expansion was focussed on improving the military.

That's not necessary. I'm sane, I listen to heavy metal music, therefore you are unfortunately wrong.

Ok, what about the person Grim_Jokes mentioned earlier, does he/she feel better afterwards? NO. You don't have any proof that people recover from depression after a sex change, instead it just misdirects the depression and makes it worse. Oh right yeah its normal to have a sex change Bauke, everybody does it :thumbsup: Bottom line is these people aren't normal but mentaly ill people that would be made better with proper counselling not changing their gender :XD: It's very painful and causes more problem with the person. It is thier body and they can do what they want. Is there even a law against suicide? I'm curious. How would they police it? I doubt there's even a law against it; it's just a social moral construct. Happy to be corrected, though. At the bold comment, I do find it ironic that you say that he has no evidence for his claim when upon my repeated challanging for you do do likewise, you're still yet to come up with any evidence to support your claims. Oh wait, you don't need to because you "own this debate." Could you please take your misdirected ramblings elsewhere? Thanks :thumbsup: What? Kashi made a very valid point at the persecution of anyone that dosen't fit cultural norms. You're participating in it yourself. You say it isn't normal and you're right, it isn't. But they are human beings too, they don't deserve to be treated like freaks who are dangers to society just because of your narrow minded opinions. I find it superbly ironic that you mention the example given by Grim_Jokes, being this - When it clearly states the only reason why anyone would regret having a sex change is how people treat them for it, such as what you are doing. And then you dismiss what Kashi wrote as "misdirected ramblings." Ah yes, it's all coming together now. Your arguments, striker, are bigoted and utterly moronic. Form them independantly of what your parents say and we might get something of worth out of this discussion. Better yet, actually come up with ANY source which affirms your position that people who have a sex change are dangers to society. I, Kashi and Grim_Jokes have all alluded to people such as yourself being the cause of the problems in these issues because of your narrow tolerance of anything that's outside of your world view.

Damn you, you beat me to it! Haha. How did he not get it out, tie a peice of string to it! I'm an expert in these matt.. :uhh: Just got a report from the news that they retrieved and cleaned said phone. Don't cringe now.

In my eyes she's overhyped. Every day young children in poorer countries get abused, kidnapped, tortured and so on, but we close our eyes until one of "us" gets kidnapped. Probably everyone in Europe has seen her pics and heard the name, but when did you last time hear of that poor black kid smuggled from Africa or of the 120cm tall asian child? Anyways in my eyes pedos are the lowest cast of all. This was a good start, but not enough yet. She is overhyped. Immensley. The whole nation coming together to start a charity just because one girl went missing when there's so much more suffering out there is outrageous. Donations of ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã721,748.84 have been received to the fund to date. ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã721k because someone went missing. Where's that money going to go? Who knows - but it'd certainly do a better job going somewhere more worthy like cancer research, oxfam, etc. So many people go missing a day, why is this any different? I can see why the parents are upset but y'know... I completely agree, but as soon as I even just suggested that thought to my parents they immediately dismissed me as being insensitive and uncaring. It's not that, it's just a complete media bandwagon and if you don't jump on it then you 'don't care'. Her parents are becoming like celebrities now, visiting the Pope, travelling here, travelling there. I can't help wonder whether or not her face would have been plastered over the papers as much if she wasn't white and blond. *** *** and cute (not in the wierd way, wierdos :P ). It kind of carries in the vien of saving the cute baby seals or the cute pandas or the cute whatever. People can be so shallow and narrow minded in that respect. Anyway let me be the fourth to concur with that sentiment. As you said, assassin, it's got nothing to do with me not caring, of course it's a tragedy. It's the fact that it's as if she's the only kid on earth who's ever been abducted. Some people seem to forget this or even act as if they have no idea.

LOL! This is awesome! Haha. This story inspired me to crank some Opeth. :lol: :P

To be honest I've just finished my first semester of uni and haven't learnt much new at all. I suppose that'll change next semester though. About the topic, I'd say just try and stick it out. Moving shools or online schooling for senior year is probably too much to worry about.

Ah, ok. That's still thoroughly awesome. They need more policing through media such as the internet.

Nah, didn't catch that. But there will probably be a story on Today Tonight or the Catch-Up about it. Oh wait, the Catch-Up has been cut...NOOO! :) ROFFLE. Do you watch the NRL footy show on channel 9? If so, how funny was Matty Johns' reaction to the catch-up being cut. :lol: :P

Ooh, I haven't seen it yet. If it was on monday I probably missed it. When you say 'local' do you mean Aussie federal police caught pedo's in 35 countries? If so that would be quite an accomplishment. Either way, to elaborate on my previous post, the less pedophiles in the world, the better. I doubt we'll ever fully eradicte the problem, though; they say that pedophelia is unrehabilitatable (I'll see if I can dig up some sources later on).

Sorry for the total lack of thought but that's good news.

Lol. That's nothing. I've heard of people putting needles of heroin up there to avoid getting busted by the cops. What a bleeped up world we live in.

Let's not and retain some semblance of order in this discussion, can we? Great. I find myself agreeing more and more with you in this discussion, Nadril. After all, I'd like to think that western countries are liberal and allow us to live whatever life we so choose as long as it dosen't harm others. Everyone's little 'gross-outs' and 'ewwies' and 'it's just wrongs' kinda subtract from that fundamental liberty and mean nothing in a debate or discussion. Anyone who hides behind the excuse of 'it's just my opinion' is engaging in a cop-out. If your best response is 'it's just my opinion' then you clearly haven't thought about it enough or at all thanks to the convenience of parents feeding you meaningless opinionated BS. Okie-dokie, PM me your reasons if you want and we'll dialogue. :P

I know I don't have a serious condition but I always make a concious effort to avoid breathing in germs. Public transport, in the city, handling rubbish, when I feel like I might get sick, when I'm around someone who's sick, when I'm in a public place etc.

That's pretty serious [cabbage]. Those sanitizers are so laiden with alcohol that they evaporate when you rub them on your hands.