Hi all, Following the feedback we received in the Conclave, we are looking at the possibility to change the points system. This will only happen if we can find a system which will reflect both the strength of a clan and activity in a better way than the present one does, and that is relatively simple to manage. When/if a new system is in place it would be necessary to restart the points to zero for all clans. As clan staff we feel this is worth it if we can make a better points model. The following are suggestions we have come up with: Suggestion 1: Include a bonus % for pvp and/or full out wars: 100 points + (any % bonuses for PVP or full out) + Ending for winning. The loser would get 50 points and the same bonuses (just not the ending). Reasoning: Encourages clans to have full outs and/or do PVP while not penalizing them for not doing it. Balancing strength and activity Adapted to CWA, full outs, PVP, matched etc... Makes full outs more attractive So theoretically it could be 100 + 30% (10% for full out and 20% for PVP) + Ending. The loser would get 50 points and the same bonuses (just not the ending). [hide=Example:] Suppose a war occurs with clan A having 50 people, clan B having 45. Clan A wins with 30 people left. Full out: Points given in a pvp or cwa, would be: Pvp war points: Winner gets 100 + 30 + 30 = 160 Loser = 65 CWA war points Winner gets 100 + 10 + 30 = 140 Loser = 55 For matched ops fights Matched ops fight example: 20 v 20. Winner has 6 left. CWA Winner gets 100 + 6 = 106 Loser = 50 PVP Winner gets 100 + 20 + 6 = 126 Loser 70[/hide] Suggestion 2: Points given based on pull and rank. Full out fights 100 + your ending + double the difference in ranks if the clan is higher ranked 30 pts if you lose Capped Fights 60 + your ending 20 if you lose Reasoning: Strength, bigger reward for taking down stronger clans Rewards performance more heavily by incorporating ending into points awarded No bonus for rank difference in a matched fight because the number factor difficulty is nonexistant Top clans don't get rank bonuses because... they're already top. They have proven they are the best Memberlist factor removed, as cmb level is not an indication of a large or skilled clan Default points still awarded to reward and incite activity, but significantly lowered Suggestion 3: 100 for winning + 50 for Warring + Ending (Half of the opts goes towards the point aswell if in PvP) Reasoning: Simple to manage and understand Easy to calculate for clans PvP bonus Like the previous suggestion, no ML or rank difference included High default points to encourage activity (can be adjusted, please give feedback here) Suggestion 4 : Leave it as it is Included in this would also be the halving of points for wars with 10 or less pull (as mentioned in the other rule change topic) - this number is arbitary, we can make it up to 15 ... Again, feel free to discuss. :) Please give your ideas on these suggestions and improvements you think could be made. The least thing we want is a convoluted points system that no one can understand. Also note that this is a public poll where everyone can see what you voted. As the poll mentions, this poll will only be open for 2 days. Laikrob, on behalf of the Clan Staff