Could you point out the word 'drastically' in my post? I don't remember seeing it, either I'm forgetting what I wrote or your making crap up. If it's my fault, quote me and I'll rectify it. Now, what I did say is that taking money from members and giving it to FTP will result in fewer updates for members. I'm afraid we're playing two different games. In my game, FTP got a large number of updates in the past year, like duel arena, BH, FOG, corrupted items, GE, forums, RS HD, and other various updates. I play Runescape, at http://www.runescape.com. What game do you play? Could you again point out where I used the word 'most', or must I be again forced to assume your simply making up things and pretending that I said them for your argument? I'll repeat my statement for you again, as you seem to have been having some trouble remembering it: Taking money from members and giving it to FTP will result in fewer updates for members. Prove it will give us less updates. That's what I thought. Half of the f2p updates were to make up for the loss of wilderness. Duh? Sarcasm? Wow that's the lowest form of humor real classy. I didn't say you said most. Stop changing the subject because you can't respond to what I have to say.