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First of all, whoever said they can make 2k nats per hour better have 91 runecrafting, or they're lying :wink: Take the 1500 nats per hour people at their word (I don't, but maybe their characters run faster than mine :P ) - in 10 minutes they can make 250 nats; in 75 minutes, they're making 1875 nats. If they spent 10 minutes planting ranarr seeds instead of making nats, they would get 24 ranarrs and 1625 nature runes every 75 minutes. This is a total of $487,500 worth of nats and $144,000 of ranarr weeds (I know RS currency isn't dollars, but you get the point). This is $631,500 worth in 75 minutes, as opposed to $562,500 of straight runecrafting, an extra $69,000 per 75 minutes, or an extra $55,200 per hour combining runecrafting and herb farming. These calculations are made using the most extreme values given - 1500 natures per hour seems impossible to me - and I can plant and harvest 4 herb patches in under 10 minutes. But whatever, if people would just throw some farming into their nature crafting, it's obvious they'd make more money. But no, people would rather be ignorant and dismiss farming as a worthless skill :roll:

You should have read my last post. Neither is fastest ;) Take regular essence and lots of cash to world 16. Go into the air altar, offer 2500 gold to runners, and when they trade you, offer them the 2500 gold and 25 noted essence for their 25 unnoted essence. Craft, and you will have several other people lining up to trade with you. This is WAY faster than bodies, and faster than fires as well.

It's actually about 36 laws per 18 tele-points, or 2 laws per point. For the graveyard, get bones to peaches first before attempting to go for infinity robes, it will speed the graveyard 5 times at least, no exaggeration. I would estimate that with bones to peaches, you spend around 2 nats per point here. For the enchantment arena, it depends on which enchantment spell you use. Using level 4 enchant, I was able to average about 2 points per cosmic, if you make sure to always enchant the bonus shapes and grab the dragonstones as soon as they appear. Level 6 enchant will get you well over 2 points per cosmic; level 5 enchant isn't worth it unless you have a mud staff. The alchemist's playground will cost you about 3 nats per point, if you are good at it and ALWAYS go for the free conversions rather than the 30 point item, even if the free item is only worth 1. I forget exactly how many enchantment points it is for full infinity, but IIRC, it's around 15,000 - probably a little less, but an overestimation is probably more helpful here. So using level 4 enchant, you would need probably around 8k cosmics to do it, the extra to make up for mistaken enchants. The best way to get these would be to make them yourself - if you can't or don't want to, just go to world 2 fally and buy them 100-120 each.

True, but anybody can go to world 16 and pay air runners. It's a bit pricey if you don't have too much money, you'll have to offer 2000-2500 cash plus 25 noted ess for 25 unnoted ess to get steady business. Fires with dueling rings is less expensive, but using air runners is faster (and less annoying, IMO). Especially since you only have the first 2 pouches available to use until level 50. Plus, unloading a large amount of fires can be annoying - airs are in much higher demand. IIRC, you make 4x air runes until level 44. You can easily sell them for 20 each, so each run will get you 2000 worth of air runes. If you pay 2500, juct go to the calculator and find out how many air runes, just add up the cost of that many regular rune essence, plus an extra 20 gp per rune made. If you can get away paying 2000 to each runner, you'll only lose the cost of the essence when you sell all the runes.

50 prayer, next lowest are firemaking and herblore at 57.

If someone dies near me, I try to take as much stuff as I can. I'm not going to go looking for them, but if they contact me or come back to where they died and ask for their stuff back, I'll give most of it back, keeping what I like to call a "death tax" for myself - usually some of their cash or runes, or a piece of their armor. I'll usually stand around where they died for a few minutes and wait for them to show up.

Yes, you will want to do Creature of Fenkenstrain and start Garden of Tranquility in order to get this. Extremely helpful when mining at the between a rock mines.

:roll: I hate when people say stuff like that. Members is worth it at level 3, for the simple fact that you can make money SO much easier, at any level. In fact, flax picking probably beats any f2p method for making money there is. This alone makes members worth it for anyone. There are no requirements to start training agility, or doing herblore, or any of that. A new character can enjoy members just as much as a more experienced one. Obviously, if someone has never played RS before, it might be a waste of their money, but I'd say anyone who has played f2p for a couple weeks can get more than their moneys worth from members. Yes, there are a lot of things a lower level player can't enjoy at members, but since skilling is so much easier, it takes a lot less time to get to the point where you can.

Yes, switch places! Powermine iron al-kharid for a while, then switch to Ardougne. When you get tired of that, go mine some addy and mith in the hobgoblin mine. Then take some nats and a fire staff to the mining guild and superheat some bars. When you get tired of that, go mine and bank iron in Yanille. When you get tired of that, go mine gold in the Arzinian mines. When you get tired of that, go mine gem rocks. Etc. Mining anywhere is good mining exp if you do it continuously. Switching it up helps stave off burnout for a while. As for my goals: 89/90 smithing 86/88 mage 75/80 crafting 63/65 thieving 17/21 skills over 60: slayer 58, agility 58, herblore 57, prayer 50.

Good fire rune droppers too, probably the fastest way to get fire runes because they're easy to kill, except for making your own with dueling rings.

Not a bad guide, but you should include more info on the boss fights. The Damis fight suggestions were good, but the others were a bit thin. Like for Dessous, mentioning his bats was good, but not how to actually fight him. What I did (and the guy watching me kill him did :wink: ), was take some fire blasts and pray protect from mage to keep him from sending bats, which actually worked. Bring a lot of sharks and a couple of prayer pots. Pour the blood on his tomb, and then run to the other side of the fence. Don't do anything, Dessous will come up to the fence and not do anything, either. Cast a fire blast, it will hit him, he will come through the fence and hit you once. Run around to the other side of the fence, and he again will stand there doing nothing. Cast a fire blast, and again he will come through the fence and melee you. Again, run around to the other side. Repeat until Dessous is dead. This fight is a little nerve-wracking, but I guarantee you will not die using this method. While you are seperated by the fence and praying protect from mage, Dessous will not do anything, giving you plenty of time to eat and keep your HP up. It is possible to run around the fence too early after being hit once and have Dessous teleport through, just DON'T PANIC and run around the fence again.

That's why I like pest control better - you don't have to worry about getting hit, because if you die, you just run back to where you were and keep ice bursting without losing anything. Plus, if you are inclined, you could use your commendation points on another skill, like prayer, and level more than just magic.

I really, really wish I could. Most people don't realize that my name isn't a reference to the king black dragon. In fact, when I was a lower level, people were always coming up to me saying things like "OMG, u can't kill a kbd!!!!1 lol!" At first, I didn't even know what people were talking about, it just so happens that my initials are very similar to kbd. And given my lack of originality when selecting screen names, I ended up picking my initials. And probably 2/3 of the people who talk to me in-game say "kbd." It's incredibly annoying and completely unintentional on my part that my name is so similar, and how was I supposed to know when I first signed up? All I did was follow a link from a website that posts all kinds of free games.

Go grab a free bronze pickaxe from one of the many respawns. Go to heroes guild, mine 2 rune ores, then go to the mining guild, mine a load of coal. Smelt rune ores, sell a coal to the Fally general store and buy a hammer. Walk up to Dorics, make 2 rune axes. Sell one, chop 400 willows. Sell and buy a rune pick. Mine some addy and coal to make full addy for myself. Go to the grand tree and mine 100 addy and mith, and a few hundred gold. Sell, take the proceeds and buy a d long and some rune essence. After that, I'd be good to go.

It all depends on whether you value speed or cost. Ice burst at pest control, or even smoke/shadow/blood barrage when you get the level will be the fastest, but will be EXTREMELY expensive. If cheap is what you're looking for, then alchemists playground and enchanting at the mage training arena are the best.

They also respawn in the wildy, by the red dragons north of the graveyard.

You'll get addy quicker at the hob mine than anywhere else, especially since they've added an 8th addy rock 8) Just run up, make sure you have full pray, wear a rune plate and kite, glory, and wield your pick. Turn off auto retaliate, and ignore the hobgoblins. You might want to bring a few pieces of cheap food like tuna in case the hobgoblins manage to hit you. If you get pked - which hasn't happened to me yet on a p2p server, despite hours spent there - turn on protect item. You'll lose whatever you've mined, but not your armor, glory, or pick. Just mine addy and a few mith while waiting for the addy to respawn - crowded worlds help a lot. Don't bother smelting anything there, just glory to edgeville when you're full of ore, bank, and run back up.

To get your levels up - thieve the master farmer in Ardougne. First, go steal 10 cakes. Then go thieve the farmer. When you're out of cakes, go bank and steal more cakes. Repeat. You should get to 53 in a few hours.

Depends on whether you're more interested in doing it cheaply, or doing it fast. The absolute fastest way, IMO, is to take either smoke or shadow barrage to pest control, and kill monsters. You could use ice burst there instead for a slower, yet significantly cheaper alternative. Use all of your commendation points on magic. If you position yourself properly, you can hit 8 or 9 monsters on every cast, and you'll average over 300 mage exp per cast, and if there are good players there, an extra 20k per hour trading in commendation points. This is also WAY more fun than other methods of training. Cheap methods are at the training arena - either enchanting with level 6 enchant, or alchemists playground. If you're good at the alchemists playground, you should average 150-160 mage exp per nat used. The enchantment arena is good as well, but they reduced the exp you receive from casting enchant spells in there by 25%, so you're only getting 72 or 73 mage exp per cosmic rune used. Enchanting is better, but not ridiculously so, so don't be afraid to switch to alchemists playground for a while if you get bored with enchanting.

Stupid requirements. You could use an ancient mage you know, even if their combat isn't high enough :roll:

Blast furnace is a great alternative if you have 60 smithing, as you can just stay down there and smith the stackable arrowheads until you're tired of it. For your method, no it's never worth it to superheat in a bank. If you're making steel, you're much better off mining 24 iron, then switching to the mining guild and mining the coal and superheating right there. The big advantage that superheat has over smelting is that you can mine for much longer periods of time without banking. I think this is worth doing, even for steel, as the magic exp is pretty good, and you are using it to speed up levelling other skills. Plus, you'll be gaining a lot more mining exp by getting all of the coal yourself, and if you are also making your own nats, your savings will be very, very significant over buying the coal.

It's more fun to just throw some ancients into the monster logjam in front of the portals, you catch the spinners every time, as soon as they appear. :P

Yep, the 81s should have no problem beating desert treasure at that level, I just did. Only the ice part is really difficult, don't let people's tales of Damis scare you, he's a pushover. It took me like 35 tries on that stupid chest, though, and I'm 62 thieveing. I forgot I could steal lockpicks from the bandits and went all the way back to the rogue's den to buy more :x

Definitely the master farmer in Ardougne. Go steal about 10 cakes, steal from the farmer until your cakes are gone, bank, steal cakes, etc. You'll get levels pretty quickly, and probably 100k or so worth of seeds, maybe more depending on your luck getting ranarr seeds.

Yep, trout and salmon in Shilo, or barb village if you're f2p.