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Not to be rude or anything... especially since you obviously don't follow efficient ports strategy or anything but.... That is the worst crew i've seen in a while... For new regions, you'll need to basically dismiss all your previous crew anyway(unless there is no new merchant/solidarity type). Also- learn what merchants are, especially since anyone who understands logic would think of them as the best crew available. I also don't get this. Do you think it's impossible for someone to have already got that mission or...?(because it's entirely possible to have)

What about all the bugs(uhh, all bugs, really) they didn't fix? Also, hasn't anyone seen the examine of these darts? ''..made of materials from the East." All in all, their answers just show they know very little about the game.

Managed to complete the Cook storyline for my first 25 perls(and 9 spices :rolleyes: ). Oh and... [spoiler=spoiler]The plants are the creature. The creature are the plants.

Do you all still have every random event item capped except for adv rerolls? because you should be getting an adv reroll at around a 60% clip. I've had 5/7, so far, though yeah, i've also been lucky with the missions i've got. I was under the impression that that was fixed, so I don't have all items capped. I did get an adventurer reroll (700 steel from the Biologist, nothing else -.-), so even better scroll luck there -.-. They have never fixed anything... Edit: can now confirm the previously guessed chef reward:

Do you all still have every random event item capped except for adv rerolls? because you should be getting an adv reroll at around a 60% clip. I've had 5/7, so far, though yeah, i've also been lucky with the missions i've got.

I had no adv rerolls at the update and am at 5 scrolls/9 story. It's also a good idea(as you also suggested) to rather focus on scrolls right now and stories later as story missions do not give distance and have static difficulty, while scroll voyages will become extremely hard when you hit the Loop.

I think you are forgetting that we all started at 27% trough Pincers. So being at 50% would mean you'd only have done a third of the 800k distance needed after update to reach Loop, and most of the people I know already have 4-6 scrolls and 6-10 story(of 12/18).

And so have hundreds of others. Now go and make one. For the information we have right now, it might be that none of the standard story missions give a significant amount of koi scales (trapper is confirmed to be 18 pearls 7 koi, others COULD be 18 pearls 7 koi for architect and 18 pearls 7 spice for cook), which would mean the ring is significantly easier/faster to get(these 3 alone would put you at 72). In all likelihood there will be a trio mission giving 50/50 koi/pearls, but that is still atleast a week away from confirmation. I've currently completed 5 cook story missions so i should be able to confirm cooks pincer level reward in the coming days. In general, most people should be able to complete all scrolls/single storylines before making it to the Loop region.

What worries me just a little bit is the fact they are giving us a choice likely means the SAME team would be working on the project, regardless of result. Now imagine a team of artists and lore guys trying to bang out a new skill in 6 months- it would look nice and have a good story behind it, but most of the gameplay aspects would be rubbish and/or broken. And the same for if a team of gameplay guys worked on the elf city. The projects are just so very different. Worryingly this also likely means that jagex doesn't have the resources to work on two big projects at the same time. Either that or making the game also available on HTML5 means they have to do alot of extra work(although noone can really play the game on HTML5).

Got myself the darts first. Ava's devices DO NOT work on them. Given that they are 10k a pop and fastest speed(alot of auto-attacks), means they are pretty unusable as of right now. And yes, ofcource it will be worth getting Loop crew. The thing is, they will likely be extremely rare to reroll and it'll take alot of time to get all of them.

Following the discussion on this thread, it's really funny to see jagex'es strategy work to perfection. Do you want a new city that we have already promised you for years? or do you want a new skill that should already have been released? Oh, ok, we'll maybe start developing those projects if you guys can just make up your minds... OH, GUESS WHAT! These updates should have already been released! masterful manipulation.

You won't get anything quickly in ports. If you start from 0 right now it would take you months to get any of the armors or other rewards.

There is no reason to switch any crew before getting to a new region- you wouldn't be able to train any of them to be worth it. In general, it is highly unlikely(or almost impossible) that oxheads will now be useful post pincers(as we have already seen loop crew be 1500 per). A tip to anyone in the same boat as most of us(gathering distance): success doesn't matter. You are better off doing a 700 steel mission at 0% than 140 steel mission at 100%. Though of course running a voyage at a worse percentage comes at a higher risk of death and killing off level 10 crew at such a late stage will only hinder your success ratings now and in the early stages of the next region; thereby slowing down your acquiring of the new resources and improving the ship and crew Crew can't die if you have 4 life-boats, which most people do.

There is no reason to switch any crew before getting to a new region- you wouldn't be able to train any of them to be worth it. In general, it is highly unlikely(or almost impossible) that oxheads will now be useful post pincers(as we have already seen loop crew be 1500 per). A tip to anyone in the same boat as most of us(gathering distance): success doesn't matter. You are better off doing a 700 steel mission at 0% than 140 steel mission at 100%.

You do realize someone might have had a scroll voyage ready, used 2 adv rerolls to get 2 more scroll voyages, then done a random event and gotten another reroll/scroll voyage, thus getting all 4 scrolls in ~14 hours? yeah...

Yeah but which normal player is going to be filming themselves when a server outage occurs? I'm not saying that it's favouritism, just that no one really except a streamer is going to have video evidence of item loss due to an outage. Well, you could just ask NSA to back up your claim...

I don't think you quite grasp how beautiful the trappers face looks like. It's a work of art!

As far as I know, comp received all the bonuses of the new cape and can be worn upon the acquisition of the 4 cape scrolls. That said, I really would have liked this to be implemented more like the spirit cape bonuses- having to actually make a superior cape and use it on comp to receive the bonus. Right now, you can get the scrolls in a few days time and enjoy the bonuses weeks before anyone else is able to actually make one of these capes.

no that's for level 10. level 10 oxhead used to be 1200 ooo i a noob Yeah... But in general terms, this small nerf doesn't really change much. When previously Ox were useful for trio and could be used as alternatives for duo missions, they are now only useful for trio missions. I personally never got myself more than 3 Ox(for 5 Laq and 5 Plate resource missions). Another thing is, in about 10 days, most of our crew will be useless anyway.

Exactly. Ascension crossbows(or any t80 ranged items) degrade. Darts do not.

Another thing Sy isn't considering is that these darts aren't degradeable as such and a large portion of the auto-attack darts will be recovered by your cape. If i had to guess i'd say that total cost of ownership for these darts(considering all supplies and requirements) is significantly lower than that for ascension crossbows.

As far as i know, ammo cost in EoC is arbitrary because abilities do not use any. You also have to consider the fact that these weapons are untradeable and do not require any new resources. Clearly, at least to me, it seems that jagex made these as a cheap alternative to dual ascension crossbows, which are beyond reach to alot of players.

You get half distance for voyages to regions that are lower than the highest region you can explore. Also, the trade-in prices at the trader are not worth it unless you have nothing else to do with them. Given the large distances required to reach new regions you'd likely be better off doing normal steel voyages.

How funny is it that it's been like that for 6 months now and people still have no idea how the system works. The only thing that has changed is the way things are represented(raw numbers vs practical information). For reference, your defense against each individual style depends on EVERY class item you wear, while your offence is only hindered by body, legs and shield armor of the wrong class. Hybrid or cross-style items boost your defense against alternative styles while lowering that of the primary style. This is exactly why i'd wear all-class cape and ring with ranged class boots along with void to qbd- to boost defense against magic. As for the update, i really have a feeling as though they cut their QA team(and deservedly so for how bad they've been over the years) and are using the live game as a prolonged beta-test, nowadays.

Uhmmm, drygores are still by far the best weapons out there and much, much harder to get now... Logic.