fat_klutz

You feel the need to show of your drop achievements. That pretty much sums you up. "I'm good because I clicked on a monster and got lucky!!" Its not about getting new things, its about balance and how to make the RS a game where the 3 classes advertised are the 3 classes you can play. Think before you speak.

Gosh, and this is why we need updates for F2P. NOT NEW SKILLS!!! NOT NEW AREAS!!! NOT DRAGON WEAPONS!!! But mage armor, lobster fishing spots and the snare spell.

Members wouldn't be able to cope. Members fishing spots would become more crowded meaning less fish sold which means less cooking which means less food which means less fighting, which means less good drops, which means less money is moved around in the game. And thats if they just took away fishing. If they took away woodcutting, you would kill the nat economy, kill the fletchers, kill people buying logs, and other stuff. Members would stand nooooo chance.

They would die from lack or recources. I mean, everybody would be effected. Cookers>No lobs and fish Meleers>No lobs Mages>No elemental runes Rangers>No C-balls or arrows Smithers>No coal,iron, mith, addy, or rune Firemakers>No willow and yews Fletches>No Yews and and willows Runecrafters>No regular essence Crafting>No hides Agility and thieving would have less food to use, since all these skills now take more money, less to spend on construction. Slayer goes with mage range and melee. Only skill not effected would be herblore and farming. But even they would feel a small effect.

Right, so what you're saying is, members depend on f2p because of their woodcutting exp? Makes sense... The point of that post it to prove that without F2P members could not run. If members can't spend their time in banks alching the yews people fletch it means people get unhappy. Then members quit. Then Jagex loses money. Then updates stop happening. Then the members who weren't directly effected by the yew prices flying through the roof are effected by no updates. Then they quit. Now Jagex has no money. F2P is what keeps this game moving. Most members don't understand that and the ones that do are the ones who realise that F2P should get something for keeping the game rolling smoothly. Without F2P members can't do [cabbage]. We are cheap labor waiting to be hired. I actually hope that Jagex gets rid of F2P sometimes. Sure, I won't be able to play RS but I will get to laugh at all the members who whine on the forums about yews going up. And lobsers going up. And runes going up. The lack of coal in the game. I'm betting after a month of no recources most members would glady give F2P more bankspace if they came back.

sorry for caps HEY GUYS!!!! WANNA KNOW THE NUMBER ONE WAY TO GET PILED AND KILLED!!!! START FARCASTING ICE BARRAGE IN MULTI WILDY!!!! YOU MIGHT GET TWO HITS IN BEFORE 5 DBOW SPECIALS HIT YOU!!!! Ya so anybody saying you can hit *multiple targets* is stupid. Nobody is going to start barraging in multi. It will get you killed so fast. And in clan wars or something... Well, your going to end up killing your teamates with your barrages and probally get hit by about 10 dbow specials. ice barrage does splash damage. thats why it only does 30. you can kill multiple players using one cast but does melee or range have anything that can be equivalent against ice spells? no, mage could still be used in pking. And noob, I call it rune throwing axe and D2H specials. So there goes your one post.

Hammer/tinderbox Probally the hammer though. My next item would be a rune axe I dropped to this account right of tutorial island :oops: Back when you could use rune axes at lvl 1 WC :D Those were the days lol.

You forgot the part where the melee guy puts on d-hide and freezes the mage with Zamorak hilt, no running away from that. Funny how everybody just ignores you when you post this :D Mage is weak and its impossible to deny. It costs gobs to get to the point where you can hit a 30 and even then good luck with it. My friend gave me a video of him in fight pits, he was using slayer dart against guys in full rune. Splashed about 40% of the time. I do have an interesting question though. How come with 100 mage defense mages can't hit but with 100 melee defense warriors hit all the time. Its like they make it easier to protect from mages. O wait, isn't the lowest protection prayer protect mage? Funny how the cheapest armor in the game also destroys mage along with cheapest weapon? Mage is such a lame way to combat as of now. And not just in P2P where there are godswords and DDS's and whips. In F2P it is agruably worse. Max mage attack (Bonus the highest attack is actually 16 for the newbs out there) is like 30 and its impossible to get defense for them. And farcasting?? Bind takes 5 seconds to cast... Rangers got there updates after years of neglect. Now it is mages turn.

Wait till we get people using Darkbow special and then whipping out the godsword for that ownage range 2h combo.... O and doesn't zammy freeze people in place with its special. So it only takes one special from zammy to lock mages in place and then bye bye farcasting. And D-hide absolutely owns the mages. Mages have no chance in wildy without a team.

With the current way the hitpoint system works no. Whip can hit almost 50 which is a 2 hit kill. (granted that would be extremely lucky but never the less) Making it so hitpoints give two per lvl would screw up food and make it almost impossible to KO. The only possible way I see to make mroe powerful weapons with the current system would be to make armor that LIMITS max hits.

I think not, they definetly did nothing at yews in falador F2P. I have pictures but it doesn't seem like imageshack is working for me.

This is great. Now when ure attacking somebody they can't just run through NPC's to get away.

I just vomited while watching your video in 20x speed >.< Not really but good job.

I liked when the people held them infront of them.

A melee version of the triple bow would be super unfair. It would have to be superweak because you would literaly be able to one hit people if it was a strong as the whip (Str wise). So no, I think that would be totally unfair.

I suppose for the high lvls this will be nice but knowing jagex it will just be a silver light. I doubt it will be superstrong. It will probally be strong and hit hard and be slow plus have some stupid activation requirement like "Sacrifice 50 prayer to the gods to activate your sword!!!" So I mean, it might be good but I doubt it will replace the whip.

Hey dip[cabbage], there is over 1 billion fletching exp in the game. It takes 14m yew long bows to get 1 billion exp. Now, the top 5 fletchers have 1 billion between them. I'd say that there is probally atleast another billion exp in the game betweene verybody else so that means that 28m+ yews have been cut. Thats close to 5 billion exp. There is now way you members together have 5 billion woodcutting exp between you guys. Which means without us you wouldn't have that exp which means you people need us alot mroe than you can admit.

A "good" update is based on its success. Which the clan chat has been a hit. Therefore it was a good update. Ok, it was a "good" update but saying that f2p got it so they shouldn't be whining anymore is stupid. Anybody who REALLY needed it, already had it. It would be like giving people with 99 fishing free small nets whenever they need them. Absolutely no use for people who actually care.

O, clan chat was not a good update. Jagex simply can't stand people using other programs. Last year it was Swift Switch so they added the quick jump thing for the game. This year its chats, they don't want people using offsite chats to talk to people so they added a chat thing so more people could talk. If they CARED about clans, they would make it so you can't iceburst people in same wildy capes, actually ADD a clan section, and not make it impossible for people to get together without a bunch of idiots following them around. So ya, Clan chat isn't a good update, jagex just can't stand people not using only their site for their every need.

And d-spear and medium.... O doesn't kalphy queen drop like 2hander and some other stuff besides chain....

I'd say all 99's lvl 3. I mean, hunter, agility, thieving, and slayer all take alot of food if you don't wanna get the exp quick and stuff. All 99 for F2P would be tough but alot easier cause as long as you had money (very possible if you had a phat early or something) to use to pay runners or something for RC and stuff....

It doesn't matter. But maybe range because you could use some of the drops you get (depending on what your fighting) for food and pots when going for 70 attack.

Fires are extremely fast exp with duel ring+glories. I don't know the exact process but tele to al kadrid, withdraw essence, tele to duel arena, run to altar, craft, and repeat. You don't need runners and as long as you can charge you can get enough duel rings and glories it should be pretty quick. You wouldn't make that much but I think its the fastest way to go without losing much money.

QFT, when it was actually written by him and was slightly personal.

If F2P is a demo then I don't think P2P should be allowed on F2P worlds. O wait, there goes all your cheap manual labor. That would really shut you people up not being able to get your yews and essence for poor prices.