fat_klutz

It takes a longer time to program it than it does to play it. That's why console games take years to make and only days to beat... True. I honestly don't know jack [cabbage] about programming but I have an honest feeling that those changes could have been made in about a week. Oh, sorry, you must have missed the news post stating that they read suggestions and feedback from the forums. Here, let me refresh your memory. http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=1072 There's also this: Hey dude, I am God. Look, I said I was God so I must be. Of course you won't believe me and say I am full of crap. Same thing with Jagex, just because they SAY they do something doesn't mean they do it. You remember that 1v1 PVP combat game we were gonna get?? Oh ya, it turned into hide and go seek RS style, that is really hard core PVP that people on the forums wanted. Jeez, I don't know what is wrong with you people. You act like Jagex is infallible.

What suggestions have they been in touch with?? Realizing that summoning was such a waste of money to train and way to costly and time consuming to level up and fixing that is not being "in touch with players", it is actually called "BALANCE" something other games do daily. Why should we praise Jagex for doing what is expected of a game company. Second paragraph implies they have the release ready but don't want to lag the hell out of everybody's comp (much like they did with graphics). Ok........ 3 months later they FINALLY release the creatures they had waiting and "balance it". Um.... all the changes they made were apparent from about 10 minutes in. It takes them 3 months?? And here is proof enough that they mask their updates. Released December 10th about 3 weeks after the first summoning diary (http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=994).

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Null Point, I can run a 1:59 800. And so what I have garnered from two of the posts above me is that the only thing keeping you guys playing RS is the fact that you have friends who play it or that you have been playing it longer and don't want to spend time leveling a character on another MMO. Neither of you said that you keep playing RS for "The awesome quests!" or "That killed PVP", in fact both of you admitted that WoW has better PVP. I'm not sure why we are arguing when all of us agree that RS in terms of game play is not necessarily a note worthy MMO. I'd agree that kids who think Halo is godly hard to play are wrong. But I don't think people are wrong when they criticize it for being "click and no challenge". If you have the appropriate levels in RS you can do it. Skill level doesn't matter. That is different in other games where even if you are a high level you can still be terrible.

Actually it said in the link something along the lines of "5-free-mmo". I just went to the article to bring proof. And congrats, you have a life. Instead of reading some random persons opinion about the top 5 MMO's you read some random person's opinion about something runescape related. I am not sure what your point is. It is ok that it sucks because it is free? So if those games don't suck and they are free too then it would make sense that they are in the top 5 and RS is not. I demonstrate idiocy because I bother to comment on something I actually read?? And yes, I am rude. But my post would have been a whole lot nicer if you bothered to read the link (or heaven forbid the URL). Here was the top 10 user list as of last year around this time. http://gigaom.com/2007/06/13/top-ten-most-popular-mmos/ RS had 1m members (paying) and 9m members (free) around this time last year according to "publicly available data". It is worth noting though that these are bound to be accounts seeing as how RS is not played by anybody in Asia (hardly anybody, WoW/WC3/SC are dominant there). So even though they *technically* have the highest players I am sure most of us have created at least 5 accounts and never played on them ever again. Furthermore, they could be including accounts they have banned which would shoot their numbers up greatly. And even if they weren't counting accounts banned these statistics were from last year when about half the people at a time were macroing. http://www.gameogre.com/topmmorpgs.htm Another list, RS is not ranked under paying MMOs and gets like 3rd in free. I think you guys over estimate how great RS really is. Have you ever considered that people aren't discounting it but simply not including it because they don't think it is good. How many of you can honestly say that you have sat down for an extended period of time and actually played another MMO (one of those high rated ones) and come back and said, "Jeez, RS is so much better than that". http://www.gametrailers.com/player/user ... 14473.html Here is a cute video with fighting comparisons from RS and WoW. It kind of shows why RS "Isn't taken seriously". Granted it shows no skills but how many of us have fun *doing* the skill *NOT* *PROFITING* from it. And WoW has skills as well. Type "WOW vs RS" into google and you will get gobs of hits.

Great, just great. More people who don't even read our responses to see out counter-arguments and decides to post away with no thought about the matter. There is NO cover-up! How can there be? So Jagex is ready to release Summoning around the same time as unbalanced trade removal (that's right, it's only around the same time as unbalanced trade removal, not the wilderness update!). That doesn't mean "Dear god people will hate us, so we'll cover it up with a half finished skill!" Jagex did release a half completed skill. Furthermore, they hyped summoning up so hard with all their development diaries. If they truly were not trying to cover it up they would have just waited till March (or whenever they released all the summons) and completed the skill before they released it and not hyped it at all. They KNEW summoning wasn't finished when they released it. It isn't even like they found a huge bug and had to go and fix it. They KNEW it wasn't ready and still released it.

Jagex needs to stop updating period. They need to work with what they have and fix what is already in the game. Basically every mini game needs an update, and I don't mean BH, I mean things like trawler where you get stuck with freeloaders or something like castlewars where you are almost stuck using melee unless you have 100m extra cash. Skills need updates. Mining is not profitable (compared to other things) at all and it possibly the worst skill to level up do to all the clicking. On the other side something like smithing is just stupid because it takes so much effort to even smith something once you get the level. Mining rune is a pain in the butt so you are forced to buy the bars but that just makes you lose money. Problem. Firemaking is basically useless. They need to do actually give it a use. And finally the combat triangle needs balance. It isn't balanced. Arguing against that is just naive. Mage needs buffs, melee needs nerfs. Range is (for the most part) fine. If Jagex just fixed things instead of constantly updating with crap that is broken and unwanted (or unneeded) RS would be in such a better position than it was now. And yes they do cover up their updates with stuff.

The last two posts were examples of the stupidity of the RS community. Those are the top 5 FREE MMOs. And the free version of runescape really does suck.

8800GTS is basically the best video card the average person can get. Of course hes not going to lag. Unless you built a custom computer though or bought a very new or expensive computer most people probably do not have those. As for what I dislike.... I am not even going to try PVP because if I switch areas I will have to load for like 2 minutes and end up dead.

Pics or it didn't happen. Naw, just kidding. Congrats.

WoW will be the number one MMORPG until Blizzard stops focusing on it. (May be soon as SCII is coming out) But until then WoW simply has alot of people want in a MMORPG.

You know you can only buy like 100 yews longs at a time. Or something.... I tried buying a bunch but it didn't work and I only got 100.

WHAT BOUT KARILS!!!! I mean, Jagex can't even make the case that you can "pk" people at agility course anymore. It is now without ANY point to it.

Ya... Its sad that people care that much about the game to do that. I mean, you could give me a phat and I would give it back... maybe. Sorry anyway.

But people who played back then will tell you Zezima wasn't even on the high scores. I mean, zezima got 99 slayer or something in 1 week.... Tell me that isn't just sitting at your computer...

This may sound snobby or something but I honestly don't think anybody who has a high rank can be considered a good player. I really don't think you can determine a good player AT ALL in RS. Lets be honest, RS is fun, but it requires no skill. Its just drilling and repetition. If you ever have seen an interview with someone who's like number one or number two, they're like "Ya, I live with my parents and play 10 hours a day.". Now, I have no problem if you living with your parents but lets be honest (once again), if many of us played 10 hours a day we could be amazing too. This game is drilling, repetition, and knowing where to train. None of these take genius, skill, or talent to do so I think beyond the already known high scores there is not really anything you can do to judge somebody on how good they are at this game.

Watch the southpark WoW episode... No lifers are summed up perfectly.

Revs really aren't dangerous... Wering dhide really minimizes the chances of them hitting you and the kicker is THEY CAN'T RUN!!!! You can just run away from them and log out which nobody seems to put down. But they are annoying as hell.

Only if you are maxed out at hp or summoning doesn't give hp. But I have a feeling it will give hp so people who are talking about lvl 15's with 99 summoning, don't count on it. There will probally be some hp gained to.

:D ANOTHER SMART PERSON!!! :thumbsup: You get props! =D> I used to do this with mith, buy coal and mith, superheat, and sell but then it became to much of a hassle. All merchanting is investing... You buy something and hope price either changes in your favor or you change it to your favor. I buy a phat when they are 10m and sell when they are 200m was I not merchanting?

I actually made a killing by buying like 4k maples when they were 20ish each and i just sold them for like 44 ea or something so... merchanting now is more about predicting where prices are going and predicted than selling to desperate people/idiots who don't know prices....

No joke but having ure desktop picture on something simple, like just a colored background, as apposed to a picture or something reduces lag. And putting things into folders instead of leaving them on ure desktop.... Least that stuff works for me.

Honestly, why would you want one? Their not bad weapons against players who are using plates but I am guessing you want one for training and you might as well just use quests or scimmy to get ure attack up.

Did you know I'm not really Fat_Klutz and I'm really the number one player in RS and I drop traded all this stuff to my account which is why I got so good! *Waits for it* *Waits for it* Number one player banned rofl!! Ok on a side note I've gotten 1k lobs, rune stuff, runes, and some other stuff from drop trades but I've never gotten anything over 1m.

You mean tele house with obelisks? thats slowe than just running to lvl 30 wildy and teleing out with glory... plus if u run out by teleing to the one is lvl 17 wildy you might not end up in edgeville which means ure not close to waka canoe spot which kinda defeats the purpose of just not banking at Bounty hunter.