munkis

I call it a principle, you know, human compassion and all. I guess that's really what this whole debate boils down to. You either buy into society helping the needy, through actions or taxation, or you don't. I'm all for helping the needy but not in the ways mentioned so far, I'd much rather try to allocate a homeless person a space in rehab and a job prospect where willpower and determination is required to get through than just bail them out with them having nothing to do, no job prospect, no drug replacement as majority of the time they'll relapse. In another thread about communism/socialism, someone brought up the famous proverb - "Give a man a fish, you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you'll feed him for a lifetime." That's basically what should be applied here - Instead of simply handing out money and giving welfare to the poor and lower classes, teach and help them out of their situation. Now, some money to get them started would probably be helpful, but if you simply throw money at poor people you're not going to get anything done. yes i think marx or engels used that example once too as one of the better parts of socialism/communism since if u teach the man how to fish u lost a costumer while in socialsm u would want to teach the people all how to fish (metaphoricaly of course)

well what can i say isreal is occupeing palestine thus palestinians have the right to fight isreal and firing rockets isreal do not have the right too attack civilian targets or make blockades so medical supplies and food cant get into gaza.....

thats making it extremly easy for yourself we got constant unemployment in the west there are more people wanting jobs then there are jobs this also have alot to do with it people who grow up on last step of society who are never getting a real chance to education who are constantly told they will end up a drunk loser then they get unemployed being turned down and often humiliated when searching for jobs that they give up and resort too abuse is not 100% their false if u think like that u have a very scary wiew of people probobly based on not knowing these people make sure there are jobs for everyone fight unemployment first afterwards can you complain about people being "lazy" and [cabbage] like that also its a human right to have a place too live.... but maybe human rights doesent matter to you? What is the west? Technically Ireland is "the west", define next time what constitutes the west. It's not a scary view, it's view that those who work hard will receive results. I do know these people, quite likely more than you do yourself. I spend 8 hours each week going around Dublin giving them soup with my school VDP sector.l talk to them constantly, I'm on first name terms with many, I'd consider that knowing them. I know their stories, they know it's often their fault. When you're living in poverty turning to substance abuse is your stupidest of choices, you'll never get out once your some form of addict to a financially draining substance. i know them too but not from soup but many close friends have been homeless and ive had problems wich made me nearly one of them too and i know its all societys foult just a big part of it also worth noticing is that in my city the psychological ill are now more then the addicts amongs the homeles.... the ones who dont abuse anything and well the western world being western europe usa canada i thought it kinda obios...

I could accept that if it werent the case that the richest nations on earth, like america and the uk didnt have so many homeless. Really for nations as rich as us getting rid of the homeless problem shou'd be a doddle. The majority homeless (For Ireland anyway) became homeless through their own faults, drug addictions and alcohol abuse. Why should the government bail people out who became homeless through their own faults and will most likely relapse again, it's not fair to the taxpayer. thats making it extremly easy for yourself we got constant unemployment in the west there are more people wanting jobs then there are jobs this also have alot to do with it people who grow up on last step of society who are never getting a real chance to education who are constantly told they will end up a drunk loser then they get unemployed being turned down and often humiliated when searching for jobs that they give up and resort too abuse is not 100% their false if u think like that u have a very scary wiew of people probobly based on not knowing these people make sure there are jobs for everyone fight unemployment first afterwards can you complain about people being "lazy" and [cabbage] like that also its a human right to have a place too live.... but maybe human rights doesent matter to you?

im myself an active communist irl this is a big topic so i dunno what to really put in too my yea so much could be said but yea long live socialism :thumbsup: for the freedome of us who dont got any now we are the majority and current overproduction crises that always occur in capitalism just proves it capitalism is doomed to fail to bad its always us the poor who have to pay these cirses with unemployment etc and to all who argue about the wages of the "middle layer of society" lawyers and doctors u are missing the point they arent relevent at all the relevents is the capitalists who own the companys doesent even work and live like paraistes of the workers its between these two groups proletarians against the burgoise the main fraction and battle exists

GJ rsd =D>

makes lots of sence sucks that everything is so easy in rs2 :lol:

was a fun fight to watch good job bk =D>

f2p is the base game of runescape jagex made it clear when they launched p2p that it was something EXTRA now the extra gotten so big that people forgett that they weiw it as something extra but looking how jagex mostley treat f2p with new updates some new minigames specialy the basic ones i still convinced they see f2p as the base of the game not a "demo" or anything like that but of course we dont "deserve" anything but its in jagex intrest in making cash to keep f2p alive with more players also remmember jagex got a big company with ONLY F2p then p2p came.... however i dont think f2p needs much more maybe a higher binding spell and yew bows skill capes i guess for the sake of it

an insult to dogs... :shock: but nicely done to bad for the thrower getting tortured or something in this new great iraqie "democrasy"

sabres jagz or md

One thing - exactly when was runecrafting released? Here's my entire deal with this, f2p has a much larger base than members. I'm betting that around 3% of all accounts created are member, or have been member. If you consider that runecrafting is a f2p skill too, and of 100 million accounts, only 1,224 people have it.... that's about a thousandth of a percent of all accounts have 99 runecrafting. As for construction, let's be generous and say that there are 30 million members. That would mean that 3 hundredths of a percent have it - and 30 million was x10 more generous than my initial estimate. There's a similar number for summoning. Also, both of these skills have been out for less time, and in that less amount of time they've collected so many more skill capes. If no new skills are released, in the next 2 years, I expect that runecrafting will be #1 on the list, hands down. rc came with rs2

the name is strange nice one! : me like strange names

in game f2p ive seen slightly better but p2p well seems to have gotten worse tip.it however has gotten alot maturer think its couse its generaly more mature and older people here then other fan forums ps i think the golden era hes talking about must been 2002ish or something i dont remmember specific years but rsc days were the true golden era

now u have :roll:

think they disbanded but ive been outside the loop for quite a while might be wrong

i fully support :thumbsup: but a few things dont make it a quest thing if so make it more like rsc a easy quest u dont have to go back into its better with crafting robes then pure quest thing and i think fire blast is quite strong hits good on someone with rune on would be better to make it better then to make 1 more row of spells since then death chaos and mind runes all would turn into training spells and quite unused :roll: we dont need more of those but yes SNARE too f2p would be easier fighting melee in f2p then i would also note ALOT p2p do f2p pking..... so its not only about giving stuff too f2p its to enchant the biggest form of pking in the game

this would be a nice thought but it doesent feel seruous with how u speak trying to make it sound like the amarican bill of rights get a movement and lists of rights and work with it both in game and with jagex... a such serious attempt i would help alot with but this feels too unserius for me to do antyhing in but good idea though

never liked ur clan very much bad had some ncie friends there il def come to the steel war will be fun fighting 'the' again last time was a monk robe funwar against trwf too many years ago for me to remmember :? Congrats!

exactly scottish wannabes ftw :thumbsup:

its couse theyre natrualy evil and viscious :twisted: (i dont how u spell it get over it) and very very mean...... :shock:

grats gladz and love the sigs

my old clan holy monks used to have more female members then male :lol: its great with the maturity things just watch out for the perverts good idea and good luck =D> i loved the inter clan wars with prince outfit vs princesse thingy the girls always won :( u could offer some quite nice fun wars with this :) only let the guys in the other clan compete against u hehe

yes when i asked this on rsc i got flammed and spammed and hardly any decent answer at all but here i got the links quickly

QFT Where would we/the leaders post? try this forum and see what the mods say? afterall it would be a discusion about a clan event that doesent fit in any other clan forum? but im no mod i just intrested what the response from people & mods would be if skilling clan event/discusion topics starts popping up