Also to put weight on the argument that members have a say in what will be released in the game, Jagex created a special sub forum dedicated to maxed out players to hear their opinions and suggestions. Edit @ Sonic You don't seem to understand what an analogy is, what qeltar meant is that not because more people use something that it makes it better. In the end, sure Jagex have the last word on everything they update, but they do it with what their player base wants and more often that not , that specific player base are members. F2Per's have a right to voice their opinion, complain and rant their heart out, but because they are not paying, their opinions hold less weight in Jagex' view, because if a free player quits, there's no money-loss for Jagex, while a member loss = money loss. You also cannot say that F2Pers never ask for extreme stuff. This thread is filled with outrageous demands from one-time F2P posters and some regular F2P posters with moderate demands (which I agree with most of them even though I seem not to sometimes).