Kiriyama

Well..The way I did it was I had my 10 accessory slots on Cloud, I got the Chocobo to be at 100% Lucky, I equipped accessories to make him 100 luck, then bought 99 battles worth of the Item Drop Up thing from the PP store, then I battled a level 100 Cloud on High (Equipment), sticking to a battle once he had an adamant piece, until I got all the items I needed to create the set. To get Genji armour, you need to beat Chaos then buy the thing in the PP Store to add it to the regular store, but it's a pain to create, and for the set effect, you need to equip 3 of 4 pieces, which are Katana, Helmet, Shield and Heavy Armour.

Odin is a 50% chance of causing break. Personally, I'd say go for Ragnarok. 1 less attack, but it has the advantage of +25% physical damage. If you have a better armour set, go for it, but, since you'll be dodging Chaos' attack (likely), the +30% to bravery from the Adamant set really comes in handy. I'll assume you have 10 Accessory slots. What I'd reccomend is.. Valor Incense (+100% Bravery) Valor Incense (+100% Bravery) Valor Resin (+200% Bravery) Champion Belt (+25% Physical Damage) Muscle Belt (+15% Physical Damage) Muscle Belt (+15% Damage) Gaia Ring (+15% Damage) Hyper Ring/ Crimson Crystal, Orb, Shard (+10% damage/physical damage respectively) Hyper Ring/ Crimson Crystal, Orb, Shard (+10% damage/physical damage respectively) Hyper Ring/ Crimson Crystal, Orb, Shard (+10% damage/physical damage respectively) This has become my preferred battling setup (well, I use the Genji armour since I took the effort to get the damn set), and should do you quite well. You don't have to go out your way to get all the items, aside from the Valor items. IF you don't have Champion/Muscle belts and Gaia Ring, then just replace them with the +10% boosters. In total, you'd get +95% damage (at worst) to +125% damage, at best, that assumes you use Ragnarok, of course, if you don't, knock off 25%. If you're having trouble dodging some of the attacks, I reccomend watching Youtube videos, and don't expect to win straight away, this setup worked for me, but I had about 20 attempts in other setups behind me, plus a lot of battling Level 100 Clouds in Quick Battle to make the items I wanted. And, as I said in my previous post, Omnislash V5 is the most useful, infact, if you don't have it, then don't try. Braver won't hit him, or it might, but it's too easy to dodge. EDIT: Just lost to a Level 100 Chaos, missed a dodge. So, as a note, dodging is important, though I did have EXP to HP on this time.

Be prepared with Stimpacks and use a good armour. Their weapons can really tear into you.

Well..I started playing Dissidia again. Spent most of the day trying to get the required items for Ragnarok. I then attempted what had been giving me trouble before. Chaos, level 110. I beat him with Cloud. Though, to be fair, I did boost my bravery by 400% through Accessories, and the rest were the multiplier ones, though I'd suggest switching them out for +15% and +10% damage boosters. Equipment was: Ragnarok Adamant Shield Adamant Helm Adamant Vest Most useful skill was Omnislash V 5, and I had EXP to Bravery Equipped. In total, Chaos got 1 HP attack off, and a few Bravery Attacks. I started with an EX burst too, and used Maser Eye (which, in the end was unneeded) to reduce the first form's HP by 20%. I didn't bother with my Summon (Tiamat), though I'd suggest having Odin equipped incase he get beat you in 1 hit, 50% chance to break him. The battle took around 2 minutes in total.

It's kinda sad to only have 99 Fletching too, with no other skills even halfway to 99. Overall, I'd say 99 HP is one of the easiet to get, as it happens over time with combat training.

Firstly, you are not supposed to divulge messages between you and Jagex. Secondly, if it was sent through the RuneScape message system between you and Jagex, then we can assume it is.

YDI for playing Maplestory.

Why hello there. ;D What's this? Wongtong saying that to rangeor? Men.. We have found our God, his name is rangeor.

150k. Complete "Blood Runs Deep", have 75+ prayer, and use 1 part of the exp reward on that.

XII had a weird battle system that was hard to grasp at the beginning, and was a pain to progress through at times. Out of the ones I've played, I'd say VIII was the best, because of how Squall developed over time, and it gave you the insight to his mind, along with the draw and junction system. X, well, Tidus was a bit of an annoyance at times, though I liked how the relationship between Tidus and Yuna developed over the course of the game, that and the amount of challenges the game gives makes it a worthwhile play. The only thing special about VII was that it was the first fully 3D FF game, was it not? Though don't get me wrong, it is a good game in it's own right, and was the first FF game I played.

I have to admit.. I laughed. Personally, I think, when it comes to joking about death, it depends on the people you are around. If someone close to them has died recently, then it's definitely a bad idea.

That's true, it would get boring after a while.

Watching 3 guys fight over who the father is then finding out it is neither of them, and she's a bigger skank.

That clue is actually in the guide.

Think this is a world first for the record books but I agree with Quelmotz on this issue. We'd be back to square one again with RWT. This is a first too, I actually agree with Jr here. Though we wouldn't exactly be back at square one, Jagex would handle transactions. The economy would go to [cabbage] however.

If you want the exact answer, it would be "blood, like ice." From the song "Poison"

It sounds tempting, but I'd rather not. I usually just fish or RC, depending on my mood.

Gratz on the Trolling... that really helps develop this topic doesn't it? Excuse me are you telling Me to stop complaining? All your posts have been complaints about F2P not being what we say it is, and if this topic is indeed hypothetical then as jr.hairychest said i can say watever the heck i want... Jr's interpretation of a hypothetical situation is somewhat flawed. You see, in a hypothetical situation, there are set parameters to which we must follow. Now, you cannot suggest anything you want in this one, because we are given quite clear parameters to abide by. You've made your suggestion that they should get members, however, that's your only argument. It's been said before, this thread has the potential for a good debate, however, people like you insist upon spoiling it. And I wasn't trolling, I was merely making an observation based on how you are acting. Jr, will you please explain your stance, you don't want to give F2P the KBD, yet you're okay with the idea of development of a new boss geared towards F2P? That is a rather..Unusual stance to have. With the time used on the design phases, working out the drops, where it is located, perhaps even adding a new area for it, which would require designing itself.. That time could be used to develop new content for P2P. That stance could only make sense to you yourself.

Yeah..Let's not forget the name itself is a reference to the film.

Everything in Debate Club is hypothetical, you idiot. Frankly, your "argument" is on the basis of "Waah! I don't want to give F2P anything." Actually wait, you only pay $5 a month, and, according to you, that's an insignificant amount, so why complain? You've been unable to suggest other solutions, or even meet the idea halfway, you don't need to agree with giving F2P the D Med, which is what you seem to be [bleep]ing about. Jr, developing a new boss for F2P would take more time than just altering the code on an existing monster, and I'd rather give them a slightly modified KBD, and have the rest of the time that would have been spent on developing your F2P boss spent working on P2P content.

Yeah, I see it as unlikely to add in a member's item as a drop, again, same reasoning as Gnomecopters, blatant advertising. Throughout all the F2P game, there is some form of advertising of P2P, some subtle, others, more obvious. (Grand Exchange, skill guides upon level up..) If anything, Jagex could add a new armour drop to the KBD, such as a helm, with the same stats as a rune helm, it would be untradeable, however, it just adds in a small, cosmetic item, that doesn't give any advantages overall, aside from looking different. If F2P is really a game in it's own right, then it should serve as a proper taster for the expansion (well, full game, since expansion packs add more content to a game, therefore, you need them for the full game.) which, at the moment, it can do, however it is missing one, rather important part, boss hunting. The highest leveled thing in F2P is Revenants, which count more as annoyances and regular monsters than bosses, and they're useless to kill anyway. The highest level monster that has any good drops is the Greater Demon in F2P, correct? Or maybe Cockroach soldiers. Anyway, the point is, the KBD would still have drops such as 100 yew logs and 100 silver ore, giving them some of it's good drops, whilst it would not be efficient to kill it for these items, it'd still be a nice bonus from time to time, since it is probably worth more than you'd use in supplies over time, not a significant amount more to make it worth killing to make a profit, but enough to cover the costs unless you die often.

Demonic, how about you actually give some reasoned argument? I'm having trouble seeing your point..

Langer, it'd be easier to deal with the matter at hand, namely the KBD and D Med becoming F2P. If you want to debate about whether all P2P items could go F2P, then start a new debate for that. Now, to get the ball rolling on this again.. I disagree with those who are more in favour of the the Mole becoming F2P. Sure, it's an easier boss, but that's the reason why I am against it. It's too easy. Sure, it'd be harder in F2P, due to lack of prayer potions and stat boosting potions, however, it's still a fairly easy boss with the F2P limitations. Of course, I'd only be in favour of giving them candles as the light source, making the tinderbox necessary. Yet, with the altar in Falador Castle now, it'd be easy to run back and forward restoring prayer. KBD, on the other hand, we'd either have to add antipoison potions to F2P (regular ones, and they can only be bought from other players) or remove his poisoning attack. The KBD would only drop big bones, no hides, and all members items as drops would be removed. Keeping the D Med P2P, and, in essence, serving as an advertisement for P2P saying "If you liked this, greater rewards and a slightly easier battle await if you upgrade for $5 per month." Actually trying a boss monster might want them to try more, which, of course, means upgrading.

And then follow it with a knee to their stomach, and their head being driven into said knee. Frankly, I'm calling BS on half this story.

Well, Sees_all, it's clearly the reason of "Waah! I pay $5 per month and I don't want F2P to get my stuff!" followed by a 3 year old's tantrum, with a few slammed doors. Langer, the reason why Gnomecopters were removed was because they wanted to remove all P2P advertising from F2P, your idea just puts that in for another month/whatever.