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Thats funny...so some one with 75 woodcutting with dragon axe is going to get magics faster or at the same rate then someone with 99 woodcutting and a rune axe? Now thats funny... I didn't say axe type I said WC level. And yes it has been tested and proven. 99 wc rune axe vs. 75 wc rune axe provides about the same Mages per hour. (I say about because sometimes you can have a "lucky" hour and get more than the average. Its pretty bogus TBH but its something we can't change. :roll: Kinda makes 99 wcin seem like a waste.

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Yea bandits are absolutely terrible exp. People just call it great exp because you can train there without paying attention. Only needed to click on the screen every now and then to switch to guthans to heal. I found that Fire Giants and Daggs (under the lighthouse) are better exp and have 100% better drops. Fire giants are my favorite becuase you meet some nice people while training and getting drops. You can also use Dharoks to train your att rather good. It can get somewhat expensive but I would say its worth it. Fire Giants in the Smokey Well provide very nice exp with the chance to break even or take the smallest lose. Ape Atoll guard monkeys are also nice exp and there is an alter so P Pots are not needed.

I am pretty sure Zammy boss wouldn't have 0 Range Def... Just saying. That would be pretty bad creation on Jagex's part. ------- If you did plan on ranging him, I would say Karils and rune x-bow with Diamond (e) bolts (ruby (e) if you want to speed it up possibly) but definatly switch to Diamond when he is half health, just like everything else. I forget if his second att is range or mage though. I believe he just attacks with melee and hits through prayer/drains prayer points though. As far as I can remember from my trips. Im not sure if bringing a granite shield for the range def is worth it. ------ Thats the best advice I can give from Zammy boss experience and general monster hunting experience

F2P just got some updates, pretty good ones at that, making summing P2P will put a fine line between members and F2P, if jagex keeps adding to F2P people wouldn't want to be members anymore, remember jagex is in this to make money not to make people happy. If they have to make people happy to make money then they will... Pretty much. This is what I see too. They can make it P2P only and just make it so you cannot summon things in F2P. That makes perfect sense as well. Seeing as 138 combat in BH really wouldnt matter since you can't Summon anything in F2P. So there would be no "unfair" advantages.

Well it took me about 2-3 weeks to cut 3k mages... and that was without playing everyday maybe 5 or 6 days a week for 3-6 hours. BTW just so you know your woodcutting level doesn't change the rate at which you cut magic trees.

Since you think rares are going to "die" next year wy not keep saving for one so when they drop extremely low you need less money to get a phat.. That's just my thoughts. ------ Honestly if you don't know what you want to buy then I would say don't buy anything and save ir for a rainy day so you always have money to fool around with. Maybe one day prices on something bomb and then now you have money to buy loads of the item. Or even a new item is released you realize you really want it for whatever reason. It costs 15m well you spent 10m of your 17m on raw materials.. Well now you are SOL now arnt you. ---- Those are just my 2 cents. I see no point in spending money or asking others what to buy if you yourself have no need to buy anything or know what to buy with it.

Training up to 80 att and str won't open up much oppourtunities still. So I would say maging DK's is a great way to make money at your levels. That is if you are 55 slayer so you can use slayer dart. That's the best I can suggest for you at those lvls. Don't even think GWD, no offence, but your lvls are to low to even consider GWD.

They arn't very crowded now with the "death of pking" so most of the pures that crowded the area, I would imagine arn't there anymore. ---- Other than that if you had guthans there would be a number of places you could train. If you have food that you can use then Fire Giants are always good. Or If you have like 400+ lobbies I know of a good method to kill daggs under the light house. [hide=The Method] First you get all your equip and supplies. Leave 2 slots open in your invent. For one of the slots keep a load of money about 80k or so and with the other slot keep noted lobbies. Fill the rest of your invent with lobbies or lobbies + pots for a bit faster killing. Once you run out of lobbies go up the ladder and then back into the ground floor of the lighthouse. Then to the next floor up where Jossik is. Sell lobbies to him and buy them back 5-10 at a time until your invent is restocked. NOTE: I heard something about them changing the prices in General Stores to the GE prices. If this is true then this method would be a waste. :oops: [/hide] Other than that I find experiments to be best. The sacrifice in drops is made up by the fast exp and no need for food or healing.

Experiments with best str bonus is a fast way to get 80+ in all cmb stats. I did 70-80 def att and str there + 98-99 def there.

Yea I HIGHLY doubt that you can catch 400 an hour. Whether you are by yourself or with a group of people (which I hear speeds up exp) It takes 100% concentration to catch 400 at 99... and even thats a stretch... :roll: I know people with 99 hunting I know the information. :-w

You only have to keep it above 750k for them to take the max out of the coffers. 7.5m is kind of overkill to say the least. Thats like 10 months worth of MTK. ----- Im not 100% on the price of coal atm but I would have to say half on coal and half on maples. I know maples arnt worth alot. 50 ea TBH, but getting the nests with eggs for summoning + Seeds and then nests themselves sell for 1k+ ea too. So it could be profitable.

Go to world 2, just a bit north and east of Fally east bank. There should be a group of ppl selling there. I would suggest you get them before the 3k update is released. 20k for guthix pages sounds about right. Zammy can go anywhere from 150-220k each.

If you have the money I would suggest a V helm and Fury(fury being more important than v helm). Also just use a recoil ring in the ring spot (unless you have money for an archer) Also instead of [bleep]y vambs I would say to use your best RfD Gloves if they are Addy+ (So either Addy, Rune, Dragon or preferably barrows) ------ As for the healers just att them once and try to line them up. don't waste time killing them.

D longs for accuracy and spec. Scimmy for speed. Its that simple. They scimmy trains str a fraction faster. So its really just preference.

50 mins a day?? At that rate it would take more like half a year. At 63 you catch 120 an hour in that range. In the 70s you are up to about 180. In the 80's easily up and over 220 an hour. 90's I would say 260 an hour. ( any1 correct me if i am wrong here) In short it would take quite a long time, I can't be bothered with doing all the single level calcs to give you an "exact" number but my guess would be somewhere in the ways of 8-10 months. Which is quite a long time to say the least.

I don't need the whip and fury rite now as ill be f2p for a month so they'll just be lying in my bank Then the point of this thread was what exactly? Don't mean to sound harsh but what exactly did you accomplish by asking this question if you didn't want to buy/use them now and are going to become F2P when the 3k update takes effect?

Would it really matter?? You shouldn't see them as much as an investment as you should NEEDS. I bought my fury for 3.6m and Whip for 1.65m they have dropped quite a few hundred gp since then but no sweat as they are always items used in combat. I'd say just get them now and don't count on the 3k update to drop the prices on everything.

Yea that makes sense. Just gotta hope that those deaths don't drop below 280 ea with the influx of RC'ers coming into the market. Thanks for the replies.

What about doing ZMI till 82 then Astrals to 91. Would that maximize my profit or should I stick it out and do Abyss with Deaths still? Thanks for the Reply BTW.

they dont lower defense : Claws of Guthix does in fact lower defence.

It gives exp to niether since the poison did the damage not the actual arrow or weapon from the person. And we can stop saying no now as the topic question has been answered numerous times.

Okay here is my dilemma. RC'in. As of late (the past 1 month and 1 week) I have been doing nats and deaths (deaths now since i have above req rcin lvl) through the abyss. Well today a friend suggested that I just did the fastest exp thing till 91 then my goal of rcin for a phat would be easier. Well over the last 2 and a half weeks I have been making deaths and am sitting at 73 rcin with a little over 45k deaths made. For me to obtain a phat (my goal) I will need about 490k more death runes for enough money to get a phat + 91 rcin (which was a coincidence) My question is: -Should I continue on the path I am now doing? 490k Deaths through the abyss for 91 rcin and a phat. <>or<> -Should I go with the fastest RC exp (ZMI) and make a smaller profit until I hit 91 then do double nats? ------- I am more looking for the fastest way to get money for a phat through RC'in. -So would it be faster money for me to ZMI till 91 then Double nats till phat or would the money be faster if I stayed with deaths till 91 and a phat? Also, once I hit 82 would doing double astrals be faster money than both of the afore mentioned methods? ------- A few things to note: -Yes I have Lunars so Astrals and ZMI are faster (or so I hear with certain Lunar tele spells) -I really would prefer NOT to make cosmics. 91 RC'in is still a goal of mine and the exp with cosmics is.. well rather pathetic.

Revants teleport. And unless Jagex changed it they can still get into the course.

Simply put there was no reaction. No pker would come to the course to "mass pk" everyone training agil. They won't waste their time for cakes and capes. The only real pkers at the Agil course were people who were training agility.