Since most team-based wilderness action happens in F2P, yes, the team capes would be a hell of a lot more beneficial. Most P2Pers either solo PK or they PK with a small groups of friends. There are few clans that actually P2P pk that often. But in F2P, there are tons of groups of 30-100 people roving about looking for a fight. Speaking from experience; I find it kind of hard in run-ins to rifle through a group of people to find a person whom my team leaders have called out. It would be nice if I could just click near where all the shouting is going on without having to worry about attacking one of my own teammates. And, in a lot of instances, teams will run into each other that have the same capes on. This certainly adds to the confusion. Having 50 capes of different colors and designs would certainly help

 

 

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont think f2p needs team capes. If they want to have a team or something in the wilderness they could just wear a yellow cape or red or other color.Jagex made team capes as a reason for you to pay for membership and they will probably leave them like that as a way to bring you in. I don't see how it would help f2p. Just wear a colored cape...

 

 

 

Whats the point of buying members for the capes if they can't be used on f2p?? Jagex had a good idea with these capes. It's just too bad they implemented them wrong.

I think that the capes would help the F2P wildy, but I would agree that they are incentive to buy a memberships; so I think they should remain P2P.

yes because it would b enice for once to not have a couple of so called "teammates" hit a critical and say sorry i clicked accidently

 

 

 

and because f2p i lacking capes and cool ones at that :boohoo:

i think it would be very beneficial if wildy capes were f2p because i don't know if any of you have been to a big f2p war but ive seen 100-200 people fighting lots of time in f2p wild now if they had capes it would make it much easier because in f2p they can't add 100 people on there team so it makes much harder to know enemy from friend

omg, this and skill capes are some of the few updates that i belive f2p should get. I personally would find it so much more helpful if the wilderness team capes were for p2p, it would make clan wars so much easier, since i would not be able to right click the lower lvl'd members of my clan by accident, and i would not have to know them all by name.

i posted earlier that f2p should have the capes and that still stands but i think the only thing that would make me want to keep capes as only p2p is if they make you able to dye your capes into team capes so:

 

Legends cape (t47)

 

Obby cape (t27)

 

SKillcape (t)(t36)

 

 

 

these woudl stil have the same properties and roughly the same appearance just with the team signs and effects on.

As most clans I have seen mostly do F2P pking, yes, they would be more beneficial if F2P.

Thanks to everyone that posted their thoughts. Keep the debate going. :)

yes they wpuld be used wayyy more!@

well, it will be beneficial in my opinion but, a clan war goes on, teams decided by team capes but.. what happens when one opposing team member puts on the wrong cape and spies/ambushes your clan? :uhh: id say if there will be an update for team capes, there should be another open up section (from the side of the map) to show in the same map area who has the same cape as you, so if you somehow suddenly see someone joining the teamcape list, you will know. but on the other hand, if you attack this 'traitor'/'spy' it would look like team member attacking team member, :-k

the only reason members wear it is usually to look cool. i've personally never seen it used otherwise.

 

it should be the same as colored gloves, as it has been said.

a wildie cape is good for f2p

 

they should have it as update once

well, it will be beneficial in my opinion but, a clan war goes on, teams decided by team capes but.. what happens when one opposing team member puts on the wrong cape and spies/ambushes your clan? :uhh: id say if there will be an update for team capes, there should be another open up section (from the side of the map) to show in the same map area who has the same cape as you, so if you somehow suddenly see someone joining the teamcape list, you will know. but on the other hand, if you attack this 'traitor'/'spy' it would look like team member attacking team member, :-k

Chances of that happening are really low, if the opposing team member decides to be a "spy" on your clan, he will have 1/50+ chances of guessing the right cape your clan is using. Before some big wildy clan fight, there would usually a meeting outside wildy to identify the members who are participating and all of them added to friend lists (me thinks) so even if the "spy" has the same cape, he might also be identified as enemy by not being in friend list.

 

 

 

The F2P wilderness if chockablock full of little irritations for players. Surely these irritations were specifically written into the game by Jadex, to give us scapers an extra incentive to shell out for members.

 

 

 

first, Jadex is a TV Company. Jagex is the company that runs RS.

 

 

 

What such irritations? To the average pker, these "irritations" do no affect to game play. Maybe to the wandering fool, these would make a difference, but for people who willingly go, they usually are willing to take those irritations.

 

 

 

 

 

Call me a conspiracy nut, but it makes a hellova lotta sense to me.

 

 

 

You conspiracy nut! This makes no sense whatsoever! :P (No I'm serious, read on)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So no, I think the lack of Clan Cape-age in F2P is a good thing. Just a little extra incentive to join members.

 

 

 

As stated, they when a member goes to a F2P clan war, they would have to use F2P capes anyway. It would give no incentive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The question to pose that would fix the cape problem in F2P, should be:

 

 

 

'Phr33 cl4n 5upp0rt pl0x?'

 

 

 

I don't think that team capes are satisfactory. RS needs formal clan support, grouping systems, clan chat channels and perhaps even a formal way of declaring a clan war. Pest Control, Castle Wars and other team based updates have attempted to put the 'Multiplayer' element in RS - If only Jadex could finish the job.

 

 

 

I remember in a Behind the Scenes article a while back said that Jagex was developing a group chat, and it would be release last Febuary. So if they are still developing it, no need to talk about this any further. If not, that means there is something wrong with it, so they will no develop it no matter what you say.

 

 

 

I truly think that F2P should get these capes. They would help everyone playing the game, and might be the only update ever to do so.

well this is dull, everyone agrees, no wonder everyone wants to be in the UN, it must be so much more exciting in there

 

 

 

now i normally don't go against f2pers getting more stuff but this thread is a snooze fest

 

 

 

SO, here are reasons why f2p SHOULDN'T get wilde capes:

 

 

 

1) You give them something they'll start screaming for other things, like H.A.M robes, and then god staff and such. F2p won't be happier, they'll just lust for more things. -sinful ppl XD-

 

 

 

2) Would it change that much? No one wants to work for nothing and this is what it is. F2p have no AoE spells or attacks so the chance you hurt your own teammate is small, made larger by imbeciles but thats beside the point isn't it? So why should all the Jagex programmers go all this without pay? Out of the kindness of their hearts?!! lolz

 

 

 

3) Can't think of another one XD, but hey I'll be happy to answer 'rebuttals' muahahaha debate term -_-

well this is dull, everyone agrees, no wonder everyone wants to be in the UN, it must be so much more exciting in there

 

 

 

now i normally don't go against f2pers getting more stuff but this thread is a snooze fest

 

 

 

SO, here are reasons why f2p SHOULDN'T get wilde capes:

 

 

 

1) You give them something they'll start screaming for other things, like H.A.M robes, and then god staff and such. F2p won't be happier, they'll just lust for more things. -sinful ppl XD-

 

 

 

2) Would it change that much? No one wants to work for nothing and this is what it is. F2p have no AoE spells or attacks so the chance you hurt your own teammate is small, made larger by imbeciles but thats beside the point isn't it? So why should all the Jagex programmers go all this without pay? Out of the kindness of their hearts?!! lolz

 

 

 

3) Can't think of another one XD, but hey I'll be happy to answer 'rebuttals' muahahaha debate term -_-

 

 

 

How is this any different from all the other things you "support"?

 

 

 

1) Yes but those other things won't benefit P2Pers to, do they won't get added. When Jagex gave us the SoS, no one wanted full access to Edgeville dungeon, or a new place to explore. Most people asked for is for someone to help them go though it.

 

 

 

2) Say you and your friend are running back from a successful pk trip and you each have almost no hp left, then what? Plus it could slow down the group if you want to get somewhere quick. No it won't be from the kindness of their hearts because it would benefit P2P'ers as well, so they would update it because it would help the people who support them with their money.

 

 

 

3) Sweet a new word that we can abuse to make it's meaning totally different!

 

How is this any different from all the other things you "support"?

 

 

 

1) Yes but those other things won't benefit P2Pers to, do they won't get added. When Jagex gave us the SoS, no one wanted full access to Edgeville dungeon, or a new place to explore. Most people asked for is for someone to help them go though it.

 

 

 

2) Say you and your friend are running back from a successful pk trip and you each have almost no hp left, then what? Plus it could slow down the group if you want to get somewhere quick. No it won't be from the kindness of their hearts because it would benefit P2P'ers as well, so they would update it because it would help the people who support them with their money.

 

 

 

3) Sweet a new word that we can abuse to make it's meaning totally different!

 

what exactly r u refering to when u say '"things" i support?'

 

 

 

1) figures someone who made a SoS guide uses it as an example :wink: its extremely different, jagex made something completely new, not give something old that was p2p to the f2p side. NOT the same case

 

 

 

2) You say it will help the p2pers... how exactly? u never said, and if we're pk trip was successful, wouldnt the loot include food?

 

 

 

3) hehe, i said 'butt' \ :mrgreen: yeah that was bad

I'm guessing the_drunk_dude never did any guild pking before. Because that's where the capes are most beneficial, and its almost always done on f2p servers.

I'm guessing the_drunk_dude never did any guild pking before. Because that's where the capes are most beneficial, and its almost always done on f2p servers.

 

then u've obviously never read my autobiography and biography

 

 

 

as i stated above, not that big a factor

Then why are you posting here?

Jagex is working on clan support, in case you were unaware, Gidion.

 

 

 

Really? Great!

 

 

 

Where have they said this?

 

 

 

And are they 'working on it' like they were 'working on' POH?

 

 

 

^_^

 

Yes they are, the first sign of Jagex being busy with clan support dates from...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2003! :ohnoes:

well this is dull, everyone agrees, no wonder everyone wants to be in the UN, it must be so much more exciting in there

 

 

 

now i normally don't go against f2pers getting more stuff but this thread is a snooze fest

 

 

 

SO, here are reasons why f2p SHOULDN'T get wilde capes:

 

 

 

1) You give them something they'll start screaming for other things, like H.A.M robes, and then god staff and such. F2p won't be happier, they'll just lust for more things. -sinful ppl XD-

 

 

 

2) Would it change that much? No one wants to work for nothing and this is what it is. F2p have no AoE spells or attacks so the chance you hurt your own teammate is small, made larger by imbeciles but thats beside the point isn't it? So why should all the Jagex programmers go all this without pay? Out of the kindness of their hearts?!! lolz

 

 

 

3) Can't think of another one XD, but hey I'll be happy to answer 'rebuttals' muahahaha debate term -_-

 

It doesn't seem like you even read the first post, as it's about whether wilderness capes would benefit F2P, not about whether F2P needs/deserves them. Perhaps you just wanted to rant about F2Ps.

 

 

 

1) This first point isn't valid as it has nothing to do with the argument.

 

 

 

2) It's called accidents. Everybody makes mistakes, and sometimes that one accidental hit can make all the difference later on.

 

 

 

3) You're welcome to answer this, and I don't think using debate terms will help you.

 

How is this any different from all the other things you "support"?

 

 

 

1) Yes but those other things won't benefit P2Pers to, do they won't get added. When Jagex gave us the SoS, no one wanted full access to Edgeville dungeon, or a new place to explore. Most people asked for is for someone to help them go though it.

 

 

 

2) Say you and your friend are running back from a successful pk trip and you each have almost no hp left, then what? Plus it could slow down the group if you want to get somewhere quick. No it won't be from the kindness of their hearts because it would benefit P2P'ers as well, so they would update it because it would help the people who support them with their money.

 

 

 

3) Sweet a new word that we can abuse to make it's meaning totally different!

 

what exactly r u refering to when u say '"things" i support?'

 

 

 

1) figures someone who made a SoS guide uses it as an example :wink: its extremely different, jagex made something completely new, not give something old that was p2p to the f2p side. NOT the same case

 

 

 

2) You say it will help the p2pers... how exactly? u never said, and if we're pk trip was successful, wouldnt the loot include food?

 

 

 

3) hehe, i said 'butt' \ :mrgreen: yeah that was bad

 

 

 

I know you probably will hate me for saying this but, can you please not writing in italics? The purpose of italics and bolding is to draw empahsis(sp?) to a word or a group of words. Making the entire thing bolded or italicied does nothing, just like making everything in green 20 font.

 

 

 

ON TOPIC:

 

 

 

1) Adding something would be a lot more work than just changing something in the script (although, I know nothing about JavaScript, but its just a small tweak that makes it go from members to nonmembers, right? (some of you now are like, wrong!)). So if Jagex was willing to do all that work just to make people who complain about getting scammed, hacked, etc. to shut up (bad word of the day \ ), they should be able to make a small adjustment to make members happier.

 

 

 

2) Something like this happened to me. I accidentally attacked my friend (didn't die) and he never trusted me again. Point is, a lot can go wrong between friends.

 

 

 

3) Oh yeah? You think your good, well, feather! Owned....

you should turn this into a suggestion, i liked the thought of f2p team capes. it would definiatly help out the f2p clans and f2p pking. plus it would over all just be more fun. and if there's anything thats lacking in item on f2p worlds - its capes. having a few team capes would be quite nice :)

Pking is much more of a f2p activity than p2p, because members generaly don't make pures. Freeplayers have nothing much to do, so many of them pk way more than members. So therefore the answer to this topics question is "yes".