Latinoking Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 11 April 2007 - Olaf's Quest Slippery Bridge The slippery bridge in Olaf's Quest wasn't quite working how we intended, which resulted in a lot of frustration. We never like our content to be frustrating - we prefer it to be challenging (there's a big difference!) - so we've tweaked the calculations that sort out whether you succeed. Originally, the bridge was designed so that you had a reasonable chance of passing each individual step, which seemed right to us... Unfortunately, with 12 steps in a row this all added up to a very annoying part of the quest. We're really sorry for this, and would like to thank all of you for persevering in the face of this mistake and trying to finish the quest anyway. It's a testament to your dedication to the game! What we've done now is to make your character learn every time he or she slips, so the more times you fall the more likely you are to get past it. We haven't 'nerfed' the quest - high level Agility is still a big advantage and will still really help you cross the bridge much more quickly than players with low level Agility. It's still pretty challenging to get across, but hopefully a lot less frustrating because at least now each time you fail you know you've got a better chance next time you try. As stated on the original quest page high agility is supposed to be an advantage for this quest (not an outright necessity). That was always what we intended, and so that is now how it works. Hopefully, this will make the quest much less irritating so you can focus on the story and get to the rewards! I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C110 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Thats good! will finish it now! i gave up yesterday (after like 25 tries) Edit: Quest complete! - I'm not proud of everything I've done, but I have no regrets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesia Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 LoL, looks like the whiners won. :lol: At least i have not done the quest yet and i benefitted from it 8-) Strangely with WotLK so near, I wished I could delay it a bit to push through that last TBC content in MH/BT :'(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomy Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Looks like I can do it now :D Doomy edit: I like sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konachi Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 LoL, looks like the whiners won. :lol: At least i have not done the quest yet and i benefitted from it 8-) Ditto that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 Yeah I'm thinking about doing it now 8-) I could use the qps =P~ I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhaperPlane Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I did it yesterday :) And now this comes out, ah well. Still did it : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 I give props to the people who did it yesterday and didn't complain :P I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007007008plp Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I had no problems with the bridge at all....I only fell once getting accross to the treasure chest, then fell off when I was on my way out. I don't have high agility either. Had the quest done in about 45minutes of it coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkjab Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 And i suppose when most of the noobs who did whinge for this eventually get good enough to do underground pass and also further on to explore the elven lands that whole area will get updated so that the more you fail, the easier it becomes? Oh and lets not forget Mourners End Part II, seriously those 3 areas were 100's of times more harder than this stupid bridge *feels bitter* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg321 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Only fell once on the bridge yesterday and that was because i was silly enough to click the wrong keyhole lol... :( However, i guess its good for the people who kept on falling over. Blog to all 99's! Look here to find out how im doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermario77 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 They should've just gotten Agility up instead of whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirHartlar Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Pfft took me three tries with 61 Agility before Jagex changed it... Ah well, as long as they don't start messing around with quests like MEP2 and Underground Pass I'll be happy. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bored321 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 lol i failed 12 times, every bridge piece lol. oh well. Thanks Gradeskip93 for my awesome sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcheese233 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 oh no i did it yesterday =( dont drink and drive!!!!you might spill ya bear.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappa_norra Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 :evil: :evil: Why do make the quest easyer, worked good. Sure i used some time on that slippery part, but on the other side. When you need high agility as a advantage, why can it not be as it was. Ruins some of the joy of finishing the quest before update. Valuable drops ??? Ohhhh yes, let me see cabbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishkahbanks Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 pretty silly really its no trouble if you have a decent agility level and it did say "high agility is an advantage" or some thing along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caskade Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I give props to the people who did it yesterday and didn't complain :P I didn't think anybody appreciated the non-whiners. LOL. I did it yesterday btw. Just took endurance. I was the only one down there at the time to get across too. :thumbsup: Everybody was like "how'd you do that!" Sig Under ConstructionCurrent Goals: FIshing 91/99 Cooking 93/99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedidude77 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 lol it took me only like 12 times, and i did it =) There's no such thing as "wireless." Just really long extension cords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodshot265 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 The problem was that they didn't take into account sequential odds. It's a common mistake. Think about it this way. I have level 67 agility. Perhaps that means I have a 67% chance of making it across each step. For any given step, that's not a big deal. However, as Jagex noted, there were 12 steps. Given that, the odds of me making it across ALL 12 steps was: .67^12 (i.e., .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67). That would mean that I have a less than 1 / 100 chance of completing the bridge in its entirety. Now imagine that the actual success level was much higher: 85% chance of success. That would still mean it would take me, on average, 7 times to cross the bridge. With a success level set that high, if they didn't take into account sequential odds, they would have assumed everyone would get through very quickly. Obviously, that's just not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellCrash Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I think its pathetic to be honest :shame: What's next - Twitter | RuneScape FB Group | My PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEV1L Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 what is the reward for doing this quest? ( i know it may say somewhere but im sure someone can answer quicker than me finding it :) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 what is the reward for doing this quest? ( i know it may say somewhere but im sure someone can answer quicker than me finding it :) ) 1 Quest Point Acces to Brine Rat Cave 20,000 gps 4 rubies 12,000 Def exp LAZY!!! I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atestarossa Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 well... i did it yesterday... after failing 23 times (with 61 agility) heck, why did they change it... i found this one harder than the handholds in me2 :P did me2 with 60 agility failed just 5 times :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly_Wizard Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 It only took me one try to do it yesterday. The people who were complaining were too lazy to raise their agility levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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