Stereotyping Rap.

[NynjaMuffin]

I've noticed that a majority of people in the RS community dislike rap, with a passion. On more than one occasion I've been sitting killing Fire Giants and somebody asks me what's my favorite music, I say Tupac, and they completely flip out on me about how rap sucks and how much they love Metallica. Now I'm not one-sided on rap, I listen to just about everything(except emo music and country. I can't stand listening to rich 20 year old's complaining about how life sucks when they're rich and famous). Personally I think the reason people hate rap is because the only rap the know is what they see on MTV, or hear on the radio. Stuff like Young Jeezy or Akon or the likes of them, who have no talent, are annoying, and only rap about money. I can't stand them, or the rest of mainstream rap, but most people don't listen to underground/indie rap, they just assume it's like mainstream, advertised rap. Groups such as Living Legends and People Under The Stairs are some of the best I've ever heard, they aren't advertised, and they rap about everyday thing's, thing's that everyone can relate to, they're educated, most of the time they're collage graduates, and they aren't stupid, and obsessed with money like the mainstream artists. Gang Starr put's on concerts for charity, or for free. I can understand if you don't like how it sounds, but that doesn't mean it's stupid, or that you're music is any better. If you ever have listened to Tupac, he rapped about political issues, and problems in the ghetto's, he tryed to open peoples eyes, he co-started an anti-gang violence group. What has Metallica ever done for anything?

 

 

 

It's just like judging a book by it's cover. The rap everyone hears is a small percentage of all the artists, just don't assume it's all the same.

[guss]

Thank you (dont worry ur not my type)I listen to tupac, also some other rappers too(80s) melle mel(no crimanal record), grand master flash, Brand Nubian,and so on, what i listen to is what i belive in(mabe not exactly spinal tap) but When i i go into school and they have MTV on i practicly puke, what has the world turned in to(im libral and i belive anyone in there right mind should cover up)MTV and they Tv has morphed, into a monster.

 

 

 

Others Run DMC dosnt like fame and sugar hill gang good sound, Kool Moe Dee dosnt like guns, quincy jones(producer)

 

 

 

 

 

tital figure of speech

[NynjaMuffin]

Mainstream rap on MTV really is terrible, it's what causes all these politicians to hate rap, and blame it for ruining the youth, but in reality it's only what they're showing on TV that's doing it, they don't show the rap that actually is positive, only what usually degrades women, promotes drugs, and promotes violence.

 

Most mainstream rappers today have never been to a ghetto, they were never in a gang, it just appeals to a larger audience.

[highlanders]

Well if someone asks you what music you like say underground/indie rap, then they will most likely not react negatively. Because if you just say rap, they assume it's the mainstream rap.

[pfilc23]

I think a lot of people dislike rap, because they don't like the sound or style of music. It's not the subject of the rap (what they are rapping about), it's the music style itself.

[Devilsdragon]

What has Metallica ever done for anything?

 

 

 

They started the antiNapster movement and brought up the whole issue of internet piracy

 

 

 

oh, and I don't like rap for the same reasons you don't like rap as I don't bother looking into underground rap

[gamblingfool]

Personally I used to be one of those OMFG YOU LYK3 RAP WAT A L0S3R

 

 

 

Ha, k, without leet. I wasn't a fan of underground either, all sounded the same to me. Once I actually dug into it, it's awesome. I'm actually not a fan of Tupac, some reason he bugs me. Personally fave is Brother Ali, yet he's not TOO underground.

 

 

 

Don't worry about those whiners, if they freak on you, say k, and go on your way. Some kids have even lesser lives to bug you about your music choice.

[warri0r45]

What has Metallica ever done for anything?

 

 

 

They started the antiNapster movement and brought up the whole issue of internet piracy

 

 

 

oh, and I don't like rap for the same reasons you don't like rap as I don't bother looking into underground rap

 

 

 

Not to mention they made lots of long haired metal heads trapped in the 80's have something to get into. :P In other words, they did a lot for the heavy metal genre.

 

 

 

I'd say commercial rap is why people are turned off from it. The whole 'I'm a tough gangsta and I have lots of [bleep]es and hos' thing gets annoying. I'd agree that these guys do ruin the image of the genre when there have been some pretty decent ones, in my opinion (Run DMC [ok, they're more hip-hop], Tupac, etc)

[ctp080188]

At the end of the day, music is a personal opinion. I don't care any more if people stereotype rap, because it is only a stereotype. I honestly don't care if a bunch of people on the internet don't appreciate what I listen to. If you don't like it, fine. If you want to chat crap about it, fine. Leave me to my tastes, and I'll leave you to yours. End of.

[unkn0wnwarrior]

I don't like rap of any kind, and yes I hve heard it (My cousin is obsessed). However, I do not care if others do, its their choice. I just hate when the guy next to me on the bus has his so loud that I can hear it and understand whats being said... Its as if the guy is deaf...

[Poopingman]

Most of the hate comes from people who understand little about it. While it is true that a lot of mainstream rap is of questionable subject matter, I still find myself enjoying some now and then, so long as the lyrics are quirky and original.

[gamblingfool]

Most of the hate comes from people who understand little about it. While it is true that a lot of mainstream rap is of questionable subject matter, I still find myself enjoying some now and then, so long as the lyrics are quirky and original.

 

 

 

 

 

Haha, OxyCotton. I'm completely antidrug (clean since birth fosho) but I love that song. :thumbsup:

[Catbert]

I think a lot of people dislike rap, because they don't like the sound or style of music. It's not the subject of the rap (what they are rapping about), it's the music style itself.

Yea, whenever I say that I don't like rap, some kid starts [bleep]ing at me and gives me the lecture that the topic starter gave me. I hate the style of music of rap, in my opinion none of the have any talent.

[Peace]

I like Hip-Hop, but not rap..

[How2PK]

I think a lot of people dislike rap, because they don't like the sound or style of music. It's not the subject of the rap (what they are rapping about), it's the music style itself.

Yea, whenever I say that I don't like rap, some kid starts [bleep] at me and gives me the lecture that the topic starter gave me. I hate the style of music of rap, in my opinion none of the have any talent.

 

 

 

If you say none have any talent it already goes further than not liking the style of music. Can't blame the kid for shouting at you.

 

 

 

Hey, Peace. What are you doing here? :o that's been quite a while! How are you doing?

[dread_rasta]

In my opinion rap/hip hop wasn't made to be performed before a large live audience. In fact, most of it was originally created to cope with the life in poor conditions and violence around. I do not dislike the music, I just dislike the way the guys end up with loads of cash.. :lol:

[Darkluniux]

What has Metallica ever done for anything?

 

 

 

They started the antiNapster movement and brought up the whole issue of internet piracy

 

 

 

oh, and I don't like rap for the same reasons you don't like rap as I don't bother looking into underground rap

 

 

 

I donnot care very much about what artists do for the world peace or the charity, I just preffer to concentrate in the most important: The music.

 

 

 

Personaly, I'm an "Anti-Rap Nazi" because I just chase to death any piece of this genre of its related. First of all, I dislike very much rap for the lyrics like "Imma ya dadyy and i ma speak da engrish dat i like", OR those songs like "I ma teh most wanted criminal, I kill i kill fur da muney to buy da drug and kill more 'cuz i ma the really bad ninja rapper foo!". That is such plain stupity that only helps to destroy the society. And if the lyrics are something like "Weee weee, I'm an ecologist rapper that loves the science of the love bla bla bla...", I hate it too, because just the rhythm is pretty pointless and repetitive by the same style. Aditionaly what rap wants for us? To wear criminal and ghetto clothes in some sort of "urban style"? That's why I preffer the Classical music including the baroque and some rock genres like the celtic related and some "My chemical romance" (Don't care if they're emos or whatever).

 

 

 

Ta-ta.

[Revenga]

I can relate to what your saying about mainstream rap basically sucking. 18 year old kids who can make money off singing about drugs they've probably never taken, cars they've never stolen, "[bleep]es" they've never met, ect. It gives rap a bad name.

 

 

 

 

 

While I don't particularly like rap, some of the underground rap that's true to what the genre is really about ( Not giving off some negative vibe that's [bleep]che' to almost every mainstream music channel on television ) is great. I also like some rapcore, like Otep. :

[Icingdeath]

Wow, this sounded more like an anti-Metallica thread than anything. Rap takes little talent, other than knowing how to talk with a beat. But I guess it must have something good if so many people like it.

[Poopingman]

Wow, this sounded more like an anti-Metallica thread than anything. Rap takes little talent, other than knowing how to talk with a beat. But I guess it must have something good if so many people like it.

 

 

 

Simply put, thats an ignorant statement. I'm a metalhead for life, but I did however help one of my friends make some rap songs (hes an aspiring rapper) and to say theres no actual music involved, is ridiculous. The beats aren't as easy to make as you may think. It requires a lot of keyboard use, and you have to at least understand the basics of music to get anywhere with it....not to mention the rapper has to come up with fresh verses that flow well.

 

 

 

Coming from a fan of both genres, it takes more effort to make decent rap lyrics than it does the incessent screaming thats in most popular music (metal, etc.) these days.

[Ragen]

1) I think people should stop 'dissing' genres as a whole as thats completely unfair to the rap artists who are decent. Yes a lot are rubbish and sometimes they make it big (god knows how) but to every genre there is more than just the mainstream. Look deeper and if you still can't find talent you arn't looking properly or you don't want to see.

 

 

 

2) Your tastes arn't universal, don't go looking for a fight because you disagree with someone. I, for instance, see nothing entertaining or nice in country music. That doesn't mean its not good music, its just a comment on my tastes.

[How2PK]

I guess I'm the oposite of most of the members here. Not that I like mainstream rap. But I've got something against this 'maketheworldabetterplacetoliverap'. I want hard, strange, disturbing and controversial stuff. And of course the beats are of great importance. :)

[GordanFreeman]

Wow, this sounded more like an anti-Metallica thread than anything. Rap takes little talent, other than knowing how to talk with a beat. But I guess it must have something good if so many people like it.

 

 

 

Simply put, thats an ignorant statement. I'm a metalhead for life, but I did however help one of my friends make some rap songs (hes an aspiring rapper) and to say theres no actual music involved, is ridiculous. The beats aren't as easy to make as you may think. It requires a lot of keyboard use, and you have to at least understand the basics of music to get anywhere with it....not to mention the rapper has to come up with fresh verses that flow well.

 

 

 

Coming from a fan of both genres, it takes more effort to make decent rap lyrics than it does the incessent screaming thats in most popular music (metal, etc.) these days.

 

 

 

It isn't an ignorant statement. When he refers to "talent", he's comparing the rap genre in general to probably the rock genre. And, plain and simple, when you're comparing the two, it's clear which requires more talent. Much more, in fact.

 

 

 

To add a bit more, the number one reason most people don't like rap (i'm guessing) is the lack of actual music. A rap song consists of: talking, synthesizer, and (usually) an artificial drum beat. I don't blame people for not wanting to listen to it, and even criticising those who do.

[ctp080188]

Double posted.

 

 

 

I R slow internet connection.

[ctp080188]

Why do people care so much about talent? We listen to music, hence I'm judging it by what sounds good to my ear, I'm not judging it by the time spent writing it, how many degrees that person has, what instruments they play, or whether they can play the theme to Super Mario Brothers on the piano blindfolded. Most times then not, if it gets me dancing, I'll like the song. Music is not all about singing and melodies. Beat and rhythm are just as important, and this is what this genre focuses on.

 

 

 

I am not at a talent contest, I am listening to the music because I like the sound of it regardless of how it was produced.

 

 

 

To add a bit more, the number one reason most people don't like rap (i'm guessing) is the lack of actual music. A rap song consists of: talking, synthesizer, and (usually) an artificial drum beat.

 

 

 

How the music is produced, either by using a synthesiser or an instrument, that still takes talent and knowledge of music. As I said before, music does not only consist of talent in playing the guitar, or singing. Rhythm is thing that catches me personally. This "talking" adds to that rhythm.

 

 

 

How people can say one form of music requires less talent than another baffles me. How people can criticise other's personal taste baffles me even more.