Burta Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I recently made a post on my little Runescape blog site, Runescape Haven, about how I think there is an upward trend of buying gold in the RS community. According to Google trends, the frequency of people searching for gold is increasingly dramatically quicker than the games growth itself, but I'm not really sure why there is an upward trend when Jagex is always advertising about how it is illegal. What do you guys think? Is it maybe because there are more sellers entering the market and therefore more sellers advertising and promoting their services or is the sheer fact that Jagex seems to often mention the idea of buying gold being illegal only go to further aid the exposure of the industry? Source: Upward Trend of Buying Runescape Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 people don't care if it's illegal. to them it's just another game, and that means cheating hurts no-one. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3nic Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I recently made a post on my little Runescape blog site, Runescape Haven, about how I think there is an upward trend of buying gold in the RS community. According to Google trends, the frequency of people searching for gold is increasingly dramatically quicker than the games growth itself, but I'm not really sure why there is an upward trend when Jagex is always advertising about how it is illegal. What do you guys think? Is it maybe because there are more sellers entering the market and therefore more sellers advertising and promoting their services or is the sheer fact that Jagex seems to often mention the idea of buying gold being illegal only go to further aid the exposure of the industry? Source: Upward Trend of Buying Runescape Gold I think it's the way the gold sellers advertise their services... "You wont get banned - 100% guarenteed!" etc etc.... Sure we've seen Jagex hand out a few notices on their main page recently, but not matter what their is always going to be some form of real world gold trading going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blosssom2581 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 What I'll say is that the high stakers and pkers causes a major part of problem - I don't want to flame, but I'm afraid that this is a truth High stakers takes millions and even rares like phats to stake, while pkers take expensive supplies to wildy and bears a high risk of lossing them. When there's a battle, one will win and sure one will loss The winner is happy as one will predict. But how about the loser? He've just lost millions of gps. To get it back, one may have to work for ages. Lazy as some of the losers are, they perfer the shortcut - buy runescape gp for real world cash What I'd say, is the people are getting crazy in their skates. They even put rares into risk and they know that that's unbearable for them to lose them! What they're doing is actually some sort of betting, really they're betting! To combat the problem, one must reduce the demand for these golds. This makes the cost of both buying gold and selling gold too high for one to bear. Only by controlling the high staker problem, the problem can be solved. Remember, Duel Arena is for fun, not for betting! Currently taking a break from Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairness Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Jagex has recently devised a new way of catching gold buyers. If anyone gives a large amount of gold, starting from 1 million upwards, to another guy, instant bannage. The problem is, gold sellers will always find out a new way of doing this, like giving the money in small portions, or trading something for it etc... Jagex hurts too many innocents. Find a surefire way Jagex, ffs, and stop banning people who did nothing. I want a 100% success rate. However, I think it's impossible to do. Unless Jagex would investigate whether that gold-giver is a gold seller or a friend who trusts the victim by keeping records back to a long time, or unless they would hire some big guys with guns who would get the truth out of the gold-givers by going to their houses (via their IPs) and scaring them mighty, this will be a futile effort. You're being watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burta Posted June 23, 2007 Author Share Posted June 23, 2007 If anyone gives a large amount of gold, starting from 1 million upwards, to another guy, instant bannage. Man I hope that isn't their attitude - that seems like a very hit and miss sort of approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baku Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 If anyone gives a large amount of gold, starting from 1 million upwards, to another guy, instant bannage. Man I hope that isn't their attitude - that seems like a very hit and miss sort of approach. One of my friends was banned for that, he was a nice guy, gave out lots of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 If anyone gives a large amount of gold, starting from 1 million upwards, to another guy, instant bannage. Man I hope that isn't their attitude - that seems like a very hit and miss sort of approach. One of my friends was banned for that, he was a nice guy, gave out lots of money. Lucky it wasn't as bad as that when I borrowed 2mil off a mate, or when I paid him back. Now I do unbalanced trades if he lets me wear his santa, heh, Jagex won't look. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi9im8Here7 Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 If anyone gives a large amount of gold, starting from 1 million upwards, to another guy, instant bannage. Man I hope that isn't their attitude - that seems like a very hit and miss sort of approach. One of my friends was banned for that, he was a nice guy, gave out lots of money. Lucky it wasn't as bad as that when I borrowed 2mil off a mate, or when I paid him back. Now I do unbalanced trades if he lets me wear his santa, heh, Jagex won't look. This banning strategy makes no sense. Jagex is really getting desperate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primeaction Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 yea its "illegal" but there are alot of things that are illegal in rl but ppl still get them (illegal drugs for example) the answer to your question is a little of both things you mentioned. maybe some ppl didnt ever know that you could buy gold and when they sell an update reminding us the rule or when you log in, its the message of the week, of course they are gonna get curious and possibly try it out. Also, whenever im in busy worlds, there is always somone using auto type to advertise a website that sells gp. Of course i always report him/her :) Not all F2Pers are beggars or scammers, some are respected members, but these respected people are over-populated by these beggar and scammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burta Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 So what can Jagex do to slow this upward trend of gold selling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi9im8Here7 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 There's many ways to stop it. I think Jagex should take a good hard look at what other MMORPGs do to solve problems like this. They might learn a thing or two. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddavy2004 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Jagex has recently devised a new way of catching gold buyers. If anyone gives a large amount of gold, starting from 1 million upwards, to another guy, instant bannage. The problem is, gold sellers will always find out a new way of doing this, like giving the money in small portions, or trading something for it etc... Jagex hurts too many innocents. Find a surefire way Jagex, ffs, and stop banning people who did nothing. I want a 100% success rate. However, I think it's impossible to do. Unless Jagex would investigate whether that gold-giver is a gold seller or a friend who trusts the victim by keeping records back to a long time, or unless they would hire some big guys with guns who would get the truth out of the gold-givers by going to their houses (via their IPs) and scaring them mighty, this will be a futile effort. But won't this stop freinds from lending money ect. Now you have got me worried cause i gave my freind fish and he is paying me he just couldn't pay me then. He is gonna pay me later this week but it is around 1 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 it's not done by detecting the amount that is given, although i'm not sure of the specifics. banning people who would loan large sums of money is just plain stupid, there are far too many people who loan money out. if i'm not mistaken, they track the illegal money and ban whoever posesses it. not perfect, but it works well enough. before anyone asks, i have had a friend banned wrongly for RWT. he explained in public how he came across a large amount of money, and was a moderator. he appealed and got a 'canned answer' saying how he constantly broke the rules. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Canned answer? As in an automated answer? :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burta Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 There's many ways to stop it. I think Jagex should take a good hard look at what other MMORPGs do to solve problems like this. They might learn a thing or two. :PLike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winner8212 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 There's many ways to stop it. I think Jagex should take a good hard look at what other MMORPGs do to solve problems like this. They might learn a thing or two. :P Wrong. Virtual gold buying in most games have become so frequent and unstoppable that some games just let them go on cos its impossible to ban them all gold sellers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Hi Chris :) I think this is caused by the gold selling websites themselves. They are more and more professional, buying game gold safely has never been this easy. You can even chat online with people of the company to track an order, or ask questions. People always have money to spend, on internet the main preoccupation is security. As for the runescape gold results, I think it came with the massive growth of Runescape, and the continuous strive for money since Rs2. In Rsc, if you wanted to be rich, you needed high smithing. You needed money to get there but once you were a high lvl smither you were self-sufficient. In Rs2, the most money can be made by doing money tricks, staking and merchanting, and never in Rsc there was such a need for money than now, phats were 1-2M, there was no fancy or eleborate, or extremely rare armours, there was rune armour, phats and legends capes, that's it, who needed money? Who would even have wanted to pay for money back then? I remember I was lvl 60-ish and I had a santa, without having to do any particular effort, santas were only 200k. Now in Rs2 how could a lvl 60 get a santa without having to do any particular effort? I think we all know the answer. 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyhenriksen Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 The only solution I can see to this is either as mentioned above, thugs to make the traders "go away". Or introduce a new currency, platina points to take an example. You buy them from Jagex directly for an acceptable price, the PP is used to buy from a special shop which only accept the PP. This would make people start supporting Jagex legally, no banning or rulebreaking. The problem is if Jagex could swallow their pride and do it. R.I.P. Shiva and Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieMcD Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 I support Willy herkinson's idea but with a slight bit different formant. you can purchase gold from either jagex or jagex accepted sights but if you buy from a unaccepted jagex sight you will be banned. jagex could also make their prices very low resulting in the current real world market dieing away slowly until it finaly dos or you could earn good deed points. everytime you help a person with a big task or where they need help you will be awarded points, you can then go to a gp vendor say in falador and cash in your points for gp. this would promote friendlieness in the game and hopefully have an impact on the real money trading market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superway25 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 As long as people are willing to buy for enough there will be plenty of macroers and gold sellers. I have a friend who made millions scamming, and actually got quite a large ammount of real money selling it (a few thousand). But then buyers try to scam gold sellers, the whole market is very untrustworthy, even if you ignore the fact youll get banned most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br34d Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 today i made an account named "rs2goldsales" and i asked a few people on my mains friends list about gold buying. i said stuff like "how many millions of gp have you purchased so i can verify the delivery". i know its lying, but i was just wondering. 9/16 people that were online apearently bought 1-30m within the last week. i find it disgusting how many people just say "oh i bought X million gp three days ago" i just can't believe it. one of them is level 104, level 104 for god's sake. why would you risk an account that you worked on for years for a couple million gp, i just dont get it. i have never bought runescape gp for real money, and i dont plan on it. thats all i have to say about this. done with runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meol Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Jagex has recently devised a new way of catching gold buyers. If anyone gives a large amount of gold, starting from 1 million upwards, to another guy, instant bannage. May I ask you where did you take this information from? That'd seem extremely unfair on someone lending money to a friend, for example, and wouldn't necessarily solve the problem. I doubt that Jagex would take such extreme and desperate measures. This signature is intentionally left blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burta Posted July 9, 2007 Author Share Posted July 9, 2007 I recently made a post about my thoughts on ways to Solve the Runescape Gold Selling Problem I think it is probably the best solution to the problem, but it evolves around the principle that Jagex sell Runescape gold in an attempt to undermine the black market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 [hide]I recently made a post about my thoughts on ways to Solve the Runescape Gold Selling Problem I think it is probably the best solution to the problem, but it evolves around the principle that Jagex sell Runescape gold in an attempt to undermine the black market.[/hide] I have to disagree. I have to think at those people in the chinese sweatshops. It's really difficult to find jobs in China. What would all those kids do if they didn't have a job anymore, and wouldn't be able to find another? Prostitution? For me, those human lives are more important than for us to be happy and try to solve a problem that doesn't really have any importance in the end. 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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