Against his rights? You decide.

[spikegamer]

Here's something for you to look at.

 

 

 

Girls can wear skirts dresses jeans and shorts. Do they get sent out of school when girl's dress like guys? NO, we just don't care, but when a guy dresses like a girl it's unacceptable or "distracting" in a public school. I think that you friend shouldn't have been told to change.

[Nitramosma]

What it comes down to is that school administrators can do pretty much whatever they want regarding dress code and as long as they can reasonable justify that it is a safety hazard or that it interferes with the learning environment they are in the right. People claim that since it is a public institution that we are required to attend that we should have all of our rights intact, but the reality of it is that there is a significant interest on that part of school officials in keeping a healthy environment. I agree with the officials who made your friend change. It was a stunt that probably detracted from others ability to learn.

[Jaziek]

In the UK you would definitely have had a chance of that being allowed... dunno abt the US tho.

 

 

 

Ive never seen anyone pull something like that at our school. Probably wouldnt get away with it cos we are private and the uniform is pretty strict.

[Nitramosma]

egamer"]Here's something for you to look at.

 

 

 

Girls can wear skirts dresses jeans and shorts. Do they get sent out of school when girl's dress like guys? NO, we just don't care, but when a guy dresses like a girl it's unacceptable or "distracting" in a public school. I think that you friend shouldn't have been told to change.

 

 

 

It all comes down to what is socially acceptable. Girls are allowed to pierced ears, but in some places guys aren't. The one thing that does bother me is the implications in sports teams. If a girl wants to play football and there is no girls football team she has to be allowed onto the guys team (assuming she is good enough that she doesn't get cut), but if a guy wants to play volleyball and there is no guys volleyball team he is not allowed on the girls team. I understand there are differences in strength, height, etc, but there is definitely a double standard in not only our schools, but society in general.

[Harrington]

Hmm, this is human rights gone mad.

 

 

 

Ok, let's suppose it is a violation of his rights... what about the rights of people who were offended by his provocative dressing statement? Or what about the rights of muslims to wear traditional clothing to Christian schools? and so on and so forth.... where exactly do we draw the line?

 

 

 

Wearing girls clothing to school when you're actually male is taking it too far i'm affraid. The principal definately had the good sense to send him home, but I'm sure the media and general public will make him pay for it and make his life hell for doing his job properly... sigh.

[spikegamer]

egamer"]Here's something for you to look at.

 

 

 

Girls can wear skirts dresses jeans and shorts. Do they get sent out of school when girl's dress like guys? NO, we just don't care, but when a guy dresses like a girl it's unacceptable or "distracting" in a public school. I think that you friend shouldn't have been told to change.

 

 

 

It all comes down to what is socially acceptable. Girls are allowed to pierced ears, but in some places guys aren't. The one thing that does bother me is the implications in sports teams. If a girl wants to play football and there is no girls football team she has to be allowed onto the guys team (assuming she is good enough that she doesn't get cut), but if a guy wants to play volleyball and there is no guys volleyball team he is not allowed on the girls team. I understand there are differences in strength, height, etc, but there is definitely a double standard in not only our schools, but society in general.

 

 

 

Maybe society believes that by letting women be treated more like men they are allowing them to become more "equal" as a person. Thus, the reason women are allowed to join male sports teams. Nobody wants to be sexist to somebody who didn't have those rights before.

[Rebdragon]

I think this is aginst his rights..This is america.

 

 

 

Hahahahaha. Hahahahahaha

 

Hahahahahahahaha. Hahahaha. Ha.

 

 

 

Ah, naivety.

 

Beat me to it >_>.

 

egamer"]Maybe society believes that by letting women be treated more like men they are allowing them to become more "equal" as a person. Thus, the reason women are allowed to join male sports teams. Nobody wants to be sexist to somebody who didn't have those rights before.

 

*whistles for Grim*

[Nitramosma]

egamer"]

egamer"]Here's something for you to look at.

 

 

 

Girls can wear skirts dresses jeans and shorts. Do they get sent out of school when girl's dress like guys? NO, we just don't care, but when a guy dresses like a girl it's unacceptable or "distracting" in a public school. I think that you friend shouldn't have been told to change.

 

 

 

It all comes down to what is socially acceptable. Girls are allowed to pierced ears, but in some places guys aren't. The one thing that does bother me is the implications in sports teams. If a girl wants to play football and there is no girls football team she has to be allowed onto the guys team (assuming she is good enough that she doesn't get cut), but if a guy wants to play volleyball and there is no guys volleyball team he is not allowed on the girls team. I understand there are differences in strength, height, etc, but there is definitely a double standard in not only our schools, but society in general.

 

 

 

Maybe society believes that by letting women be treated more like men they are allowing them to become more "equal" as a person. Thus, the reason women are allowed to join male sports teams. Nobody wants to be sexist to somebody who didn't have those rights before.

 

 

 

Judging by the way you put equal in quotation marks you probably agree with my stance on this. There are certain physical differences between men and women that will always prevent them from being completely "equal." One quick one of the top of my head is that women have children. I know not all women and I'm not saying that we should discriminate against mothers, but realistically in the workplace if one person is there for 12 months in a year and one is gone for 2-4 months (I don't really now how long women miss for being pregnant) who do you think will get an available promotion. And then all the Femi-nazi women complain that the woman with the baby was treated unfairly.

 

 

 

Went off on a tangent there. Sorry. My point being that there are certain differences that mean women can do some things that men can and vice versa and people need to learn to accept that.

[Futurama]

my main concern is that your principle ruined his fun on the last day :shock:

[astro_dude]

egamer"]Here's something for you to look at.

 

 

 

Girls can wear skirts dresses jeans and shorts. Do they get sent out of school when girl's dress like guys? NO, we just don't care, but when a guy dresses like a girl it's unacceptable or "distracting" in a public school. I think that you friend shouldn't have been told to change.

 

 

 

I never thought of it that way. And who says wearing a "skirt" is only for women anyway.

[fakeitormakeit]

Well, when you agree to eb schooled in public and even private you agree to certain terms.

 

 

 

In my life I've only gone to private schooling and in my school we had to sign contracts in the beginning of class saying we accepted the terms and one of the terms in all of them was to not disrupt class, well isn't that going agaisnt freedom of speech? No, because I agree to it.

 

 

 

Besides its pretty dumb that a male in all his sense dresses up as a female, I'd understand if they were Scottish and they wore a kilt to show how proud he was of his nationality and were told to take it off, then that would be agaisnt his rights but come on, why would you even want to wear women clothing?

[Rebdragon]

egamer"]Here's something for you to look at.

 

 

 

Girls can wear skirts dresses jeans and shorts. Do they get sent out of school when girl's dress like guys? NO, we just don't care, but when a guy dresses like a girl it's unacceptable or "distracting" in a public school. I think that you friend shouldn't have been told to change.

 

 

 

I never thought of it that way. And who says wearing a "skirt" is only for women anyway.

 

*raises hand*

[Deaners1212]

Your friend should have not been told to change clothes even if cross dressing was against the rules simply because the reason we say guys should were guy clothes and the same for girls and their clothes is because the majority around us (society) says we should. I understand to a certain point that it could be distracting but that's mainly because so many people are ignorant towards difference and change and are afraid of it.

[Tigra00]

Stop making such a fuss, it's got little to do with "rights", you probably can wear what you want, but what if you wore a t-shirt covered in swearing? Or just a thong? Common sense needed.

 

 

 

There are dress codes against that.

 

 

 

If there is no dress code stating that men cannot wear womens clothes, his rights were violated, he could sue, and he would win.

 

 

 

THAT is America. :P

[Bloodstain]

egamer"]Here's something for you to look at.

 

 

 

Girls can wear skirts dresses jeans and shorts. Do they get sent out of school when girl's dress like guys? NO, we just don't care, but when a guy dresses like a girl it's unacceptable or "distracting" in a public school. I think that you friend shouldn't have been told to change.

 

 

 

It all comes down to what is socially acceptable. Girls are allowed to pierced ears, but in some places guys aren't. The one thing that does bother me is the implications in sports teams. If a girl wants to play football and there is no girls football team she has to be allowed onto the guys team (assuming she is good enough that she doesn't get cut), but if a guy wants to play volleyball and there is no guys volleyball team he is not allowed on the girls team. I understand there are differences in strength, height, etc, but there is definitely a double standard in not only our schools, but society in general.

 

Funny story, two sisters in our city made a fuss about getting permission to try out for the guys hockey team because they wanted a bigger challenge and what not, so after a long battle they were finally able to try out for the guys team. So they did, and weren't good enough. So, they went for the girl team and weren't good enough :lol:

 

 

 

On topic: My school had a day where girls would dress like guys and guys would dress like girls, good fun. I don't think your situation is a big deal, it's school, who cares? He was likely doing it to be the class clown anyway :roll:

[knives669]

I think it's hot when guys dress as girls. :wink:

[Kashi]

I think it's hot when guys dress as girls. :wink:

 

 

 

Then this is the thread for you!

 

 

 

Yeah, I think this thread deals with alot of the same issues as that one. ^

[How2PK]

It's a school, you're there to learn your male friends dressing up as a girl is distracting.

 

 

 

But it's the last day at school. Seems more like something to celebrate his last day. We used to do that here as well. Well, not dress as woman, but do weird things on your last day.

[BlueTear]

Hmm, this is human rights gone mad.

 

 

 

Ok, let's suppose it is a violation of his rights... what about the rights of people who were offended by his provocative dressing statement? Or what about the rights of muslims to wear traditional clothing to Christian schools? and so on and so forth.... where exactly do we draw the line?

 

 

 

Wearing girls clothing to school when you're actually male is taking it too far i'm affraid. The principal definately had the good sense to send him home, but I'm sure the media and general public will make him pay for it and make his life hell for doing his job properly... sigh.

 

So wearing women's clothing - and the OP states it's women's clothing acceptable in the dress code - is offensive?

 

 

 

Hi, I'd like to welcome you all to the 21st century.

[TotalTalker]

Hes a BOY, and he was in the GIRL uniform. I dont think that they had a skirt in the boys uniform list :?

[fakeitormakeit]

If your in some kind of agreement then it can pretty much can do anything(you agreed to it), because in school your suppose to not hold anyone back from learning to their fullest potential and distractions are an impedement. So infact it was no violation of his rights, but violation of anothers rights.

 

 

 

Jez when someone doesn't like something its a violation of their rights.

 

[sarcasm]My mom told me to be quiet, thats a violation of the first amendment.[/sarcasm]

[astro_dude]

Hes a BOY, and he was in the GIRL uniform. I dont think that they had a skirt in the boys uniform list :?

 

 

 

We have NO uniforms. jees..

If your in some kind of agreement then it can pretty much can do anything(you agreed to it), because in school your suppose to not hold anyone back from learning to their fullest potential and distractions are an impedement. So infact it was no violation of his rights, but violation of anothers rights.

 

 

 

Jez when someone doesn't like something its a violation of their rights.

 

[sarcasm]My mom told me to be quiet, thats a violation of the first amendment.[/sarcasm]

 

 

 

The thing is he was yelled at for something that the princible really had no right to..Putting aside the fact that it was kinda a "prank"..You should be aloud to wear what ever you want. Even if they were "womens" clothing. everthing he wore was in the dresscode. His skirt wasnt to short. Nothing it was only the fact that hes a guy with a skirt O_o?

[Brandon_7]

When you registered at school, you signed away your rights, whether you knew it or not. You're in a public school. It's a government facility and the teachers work for the government. In other words, they can tell you what to do and there's not much you can do about it. You don't have many rights to speak of in school. Get over it and get over yourself. It's really not that big of a deal.

 

 

 

That guy wearing what he was wearing would be distracting to other students and the learning environment. It's the job of the staff to make sure that things like that don't happen. They were doing their job.

[Nitramosma]

...everthing he wore was in the dresscode. His skirt wasnt to short. Nothing it was only the fact that hes a guy with a skirt ...

 

 

 

I bet if you look in your student handbook there will be something to the extent of this: "The administration has the right to make the final call on all matters which ultimately affect the learning environment or the school mission." Its called the elastic clause and it gives the school the right to do pretty much whatever they want as long as they believe it is in the school as a whole's best interest. Get over it. Besides, its not like they gave him detention or suspension. They just told him to go home on his last day. Most people would be happy to start summer vacation one day early.

[assassin_696]

The point is whether or not it's against his rights to be told he can't dress as a woman at a school, I don't think so.

 

 

 

Maybe the principle was being a little stern and a bit of a killjoy, but is this really a violation of human rights worth worrying about (if the right to dress is even a human right?)?

 

 

 

I don't think so.