Community really that bad?

[WookieeMania12]

Hi!

 

 

 

My next debate is on the community itself. We mostly see some people claiming it is "all bad", but if you explore around as a new character, you'll quickly see it isn't that bad.

 

 

 

I made a pure (name is a secret :-$) and so far, I never got any "noob" comments. Why is that? My character wasn't being in a very annoying fashion. Maybe some people annoy others, hence comes a lot of "get lost noob" stuff. I'm not for these people as what they are doing is immoral, but you need to see that half of the time, the people will bother others. Yes, you get some foolish people, but even a foolish person can be the nicest person you ever met; minus the rich snotty lvl 92. Now, some people actually gave me feathers for free many times, and this is F2P we are all talking about.

 

 

 

Unfortunately there is a fair amount of people you want to avoid on P2p at times. Some people are in it for annoying rich people and little old mods like me; and usually these are from high-lvls. I can conclude that the community needs work, but is not as chaotic as Halo MP.

 

 

 

On Halo MP, you'll get a lot of this when playing. I censored the curse words for a very good reason.:

 

 

 

kid - FFFFFFFFFFF*********************CCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKK

 

 

 

[kid2 gets killed by a guy]

 

 

 

kid2: die n*gger! Eat ma muthaf***in' sh*t!

 

 

 

[kid3 gets shot in the head by goodguy]

 

 

 

kid3: lol, hacker. f*ck u

 

 

 

[kid3 dies again!]

 

 

 

kid3: I H8 U F*CKER!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

[kid3 finally dies in a smashing way]

 

 

 

kid3: f*ck dis and f*ck u!

 

 

 

[kid3 logs]

 

 

 

[Kid4 is kiled buy guy2 because he used a rocket launcher]

 

 

 

kid4: stop it rocker wh*re.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> As you can see, Halo MP is far chaotic than Runescape. What can explain that Runescape is mild and Halo MP vile? The level of violence: Halo is far popular for obvious reasons, it will have more morons. Not to mention Halo is pretty intense and that explains the pretty comments. Now, in both games, they've tamed down the losers (Halo MP got serious workout); but the community can be a problem. For Runescape, it could be due to pking areas where you'll recieve the immature, dumb comments that don't make sense. Thats usually where the most action is held.

 

 

 

Please comment on the community issues with anything pretty and witty.

[PastyGangsta]

Halo is full of morons, which explains why you play... :-w

 

 

 

Just kidding

 

 

 

But really Halo does have a lot of idiots, I play it but I dont find it that interesting since I already beat Halo 2 twice. It just wasn't that fun to me. And I had a choice between Xbox live and RS membership, and I took the RS membership. Its cheaper, more fun, and the money I saved goes towards a Wii .

 

 

 

The Wii is AWSOME!!!!!

 

 

 

EDIT: Woot!! First post! :thumbsup:

[highlanders]

Rs has the worse mmorpg community out of all the major mmorpgs maybe except endless-online, which really is the bottom pit.

 

 

 

It's livable, but it's not enjoyable. A friendly community is soo much MORE fun.

[Alg]

halo online has a far worse community than runescape's... there are more idiots and whiners.

 

runescape's isn't bad if you stay away from people

[WookieeMania12]

Halo is full of morons, which explains why you play... :-w

 

 

 

Just kidding

 

 

 

The Wii is AWSOME!!!!!

 

 

 

EDIT: Woot!! First post! :thumbsup:

 

 

 

Yes..... Which is why I'm called "Jerkrazzi" ^_^. As far as I could tell, RS just has a lot of kids that manage to insult people with "noob".

[Ginger_Warrior]

The Xbox 360's main audience is teenage lads. As we've already seen, sticking teenage kids behind a monitor where they can't be seen or made accountable for their actions is a bad, bad thing.

 

 

 

However, when I go on the RSOF, wanting to buy raw lobbies, and whenever I try to even negotiaite on their ridiculous pricing just get to ignored while they continue to bump like crazy, I know there is also a definite problem with the RS community as well. I've never seen a game where so many people think it's acceptable to cheat by using Real World Trading/Macro programs, or to swear like crazy over the smallest thing.

[klankaos]

Teenage boys = violent, immature people. I realize this is stereotypical (not all teenage boys are like that), but it's by and large true. Especially, as Ginger said, when they're online and nobody can hold them accountable. Then they start to get violent and this is only accented by playing games such as Halo, where the point is to destroy things and people. It's a game where mindless slaughter is promoted, and the point of the game very much reflects into the actions of the users. As has been said, the place where this takes place most in RS is in the wilderness and the duel arena, where people fight each other. This brings in another aspect that can create annoying people - losing their stuff. Any online game where people can die against other people will have this type of behaviour, as people will be angry about losing their stuff and they know exactly who did it. If you lose fifty bucks out of your wallet on a street corner, you don't know who did it, and so your anger simply explodes generally. But when there's someone to rant at, your anger becomes quite concentrated, and so you become whiny and/or violent.

[Mirror]

Runescape has been the only MMORPG (I hope I did that right) that I have played. When I started there was scamming/begging which I acount as part of a "bad" community. But as the years have progressed, I have noticed an increase in these players and decrease in the nicer players in my view.

 

 

 

Before I continue, I guess I should tell you what my view of a bad community. My view of a bad community is when there are people in the way/hindering the correct way to play/using language that is not appropriate of people that age. Runescape has seen an increase in these types of players. The biggest increase I have seen have been autoers in there actions of trying to farm gold. That is a different aspect of the community and will stay away from that. The players that use words such as noob or other "1337" terms have been introduced to this game. When I joined there were a mass that did that. It is nothing new, it is something you learn to deal with whether it be an ignore button or personally not caring. Scammers have been a part of this game as well, because they want to make an easy buck. I may have seen an increase in this but very little. Beggars being in the same category as Scammers.

 

 

 

My overall thought is that the community has gotten worse, just not as big as some people have expressed. It may not be filled with language from that example used from Halo (thank you sensor) but it has a ton more problems besides the ones stated from other games. I think every game has its down point and those downpoints do not have to be true for every other game.

[Powman3]

Teenage boys = violent, immature people. I realize this is stereotypical (not all teenage boys are like that), but it's by and large true. Especially, as Ginger said, when they're online and nobody can hold them accountable. Then they start to get violent and this is only accented by playing games such as Halo, where the point is to destroy things and people. It's a game where mindless slaughter is promoted, and the point of the game very much reflects into the actions of the users. As has been said, the place where this takes place most in RS is in the wilderness and the duel arena, where people fight each other. This brings in another aspect that can create annoying people - losing their stuff. Any online game where people can die against other people will have this type of behaviour, as people will be angry about losing their stuff and they know exactly who did it. If you lose fifty bucks out of your wallet on a street corner, you don't know who did it, and so your anger simply explodes generally. But when there's someone to rant at, your anger becomes quite concentrated, and so you become whiny and/or violent.

 

 

 

I completely agree.

 

Even though I'm 13 :P

[WookieeMania12]

Runescape has been the only MMORPG (I hope I did that right) that I have played. When I started there was scamming/begging which I acount as part of a "bad" community. But as the years have progressed, I have noticed an increase in these players and decrease in the nicer players in my view.

 

 

 

Before I continue, I guess I should tell you what my view of a bad community. My view of a bad community is when there are people in the way/hindering the correct way to play/using language that is not appropriate of people that age. Runescape has seen an increase in these types of players. The biggest increase I have seen have been autoers in there actions of trying to farm gold. That is a different aspect of the community and will stay away from that. The players that use words such as noob or other "1337" terms have been introduced to this game. When I joined there were a mass that did that. It is nothing new, it is something you learn to deal with whether it be an ignore button or personally not caring. Scammers have been a part of this game as well, because they want to make an easy buck. I may have seen an increase in this but very little. Beggars being in the same category as Scammers.

 

 

 

My overall thought is that the community has gotten worse, just not as big as some people have expressed. It may not be filled with language from that example used from Halo (thank you sensor) but it has a ton more problems besides the ones stated from other games. I think every game has its down point and those downpoints do not have to be true for every other game.

 

 

 

No prob about the censor.

 

 

 

I'm starting to agree with you. But I also think the rule-breakers are in the high minority while immature people probably in between minority and majority. I am starting to think there will be an explosion of these people as time goes on. Partially because you can do almost anything on RS

 

 

 

In Halo, all you do is kill stuff. Eventually you'll get tired of the same thing all day. But in Runescape, there are a ton of updates and a big world with everybody there.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

The community can only occasionally be perceived as "bad". Regardless of the age group, we as humans naturally suck at communicating with more than one person on a friendly basis for sustained periods of time. Even with that said, there are pockets of the community which are/can/will/could possible be made enjoyable, such as lesser-known communities, or communities that don't act so stuffy about the smallest thing.

 

 

 

Yes I realize that RuneScape's pretty bad at what it does when it's at its worst (riots?), but it's not hard to look past the pre-pubescent children to see the bright side of things.

 

 

 

(Although those immature kids sure do stand in front of the good side of the community like Mount Everest...)

[klankaos]

Hehe... That's all too true, Makoto. If we find a nice group of people (somewhat like TIF, only perhaps a little teensy bit smaller), the community will be percieved by us as good. However, to those still out in the "Mount Everest of Immaturity", the community is going to be percieved as bad. I'm not sure it's possible to even consider that mountain as part of the community, as they partake in no group events or any such.

 

And a word on riots.... Anyone who saw any of the riots over the rollbacks must have noticed that at least 90% of the people there had no idea why or were trying to get back "partyhats" or "halloween masks" that they lost. However, none seemed to realize that it is technically impossible to lose anything to the rollbacks unless you got it as a monster drop in the past fifteen minutes (or whenever it was rolled back to), because anything you traded for will be back, but you'll still have the money. And I highly doubt anyone managed to get a santa, halloween mask or partyhat in the past 15 minutes from a monster drop/random event.

[Ichimaru]

And I highly doubt anyone managed to get a santa, halloween mask or partyhat in the past 15 minutes from a monster drop/random event.

 

Staking my friend, staking. Some people were probably very happy, and others, very frustrated in the staking world. And the rollback wasn't 15 minutes, it was atleast 60 minutes back in time, atleast, I'm thinking 180 minutes.

[meol]

I normally think that the community is a white sheet with some (many) red stains on it, but man, there are lot of big stains!

 

A while ago I was playing Trouble Brewing for the first time (it's quite fun to play, I liked it a lot), and people kept burning their opponent's water valves and destillers. Now, in this mini-game, the reward depends on how much you help to the team, and how much rum your team produced, regardless of which team produced more. I know that sabotage is a part of the minigame and that I should get over it, but I mean, they just do it because they want to harm the others. They win nothing, they even lose time, and make the other team lose valuable time as well.

[Mirror]

I normally think that the community is a white sheet with some (many) red stains on it, but man, there are lot of big stains!

 

A while ago I was playing Trouble Brewing for the first time (it's quite fun to play, I liked it a lot), and people kept burning their opponent's water valves and destillers. Now, in this mini-game, the reward depends on how much you help to the team, and how much rum your team produced, regardless of which team produced more. I know that sabotage is a part of the minigame and that I should get over it, but I mean, they just do it because they want to harm the others. They win nothing, they even lose time, and make the other team lose valuable time as well.

 

That is a whole different aspect, yes you know that is part of the mini game, but people have fun while doing it. I know when I play Trouble Brewing, I grab a torch and keep lighting the bridge on fire and do a fire dance. Ok so I dont get the max amount of rewards but I am having fun while it is a fair part of the game. Heh, I had to add that last part because scammers could think it is fun to scam, but it is not a fair part of the game.

[Goltenzero]

Runescape is not all that bad. I'll agree there are the large number of immature people, but for most of them they'll be nice to you if you're nice to them (honey = better than vinegar, except in salads). Of course there will always be the stubborn "bratty" people that, as it seems, will be jerks no matter what course of action you take, but by judging the whole community on their actions would probably, in the end, make you one of them.

[Giordano]

It's not that bad as people say it. They make it seem it happens every hour, in every day they play. Think about this: take the number of bad people / the number of people you see in the screen, say in Varrock. See a difference? It's not 50/50 or even 30/50, of course it's not 1/50, but it isn't total chaos.

[Hi9im8Here7]

In general, p2p has a better community than f2p because they're more committed to the game. Alot of idiots in the free worlds go around being abusive because they just started playing and have no repect for runescape. People that have played Halo would expect people to swear, so they themselves go around swearing.

 

 

 

It often depends where you are. Different types of people go to different things. In members worlds, the worst of the community usually shows up in PKing and staking because these activities resemble the kind of things you do in most other games.

 

 

 

You'll find nicer people in more far-off towns like Port Phastmays. You'll also find them doing things like training farming, supposedly the most boring skill in rs (I think it's quite fun, actually :lol: ).

 

 

 

You can find some very good people in this game, if you know where to look. The same with the RSOF rants. There's alot of idiots, but alot of intelligent people there too. Because of this it's impossible to say runescape is just one commuity. It's a whole lot of intertwined ones, all of them as diversified as the activities in this game. Runescape is chock full of idiots, macroers, beggars, scammers, and the like, but it's also full of good honest people just wanting to play a decent game.

[Lugia_Lvl138]

I've been reading about Maple Story and I think the community there is way worse than the one in RS. Apparently in Maple Story, some people use hacks to make monsters come to them or to make monsters swarm you to kill you. Also, I heard that people can even restrict your access to certain content by getting like 20 of their friends to "defame" you -.-. Plus the usual scamming/swearing/annoying people/etc. Of course Maple Story is almost all F2P which pretty much explains it. But still, in RS, you can't get your ability to use certain content taken away by people manipulating a stupid fame system. And there's no hacks people can use to make all the monsters in an area kill you.

[Alg]

after (unknowingly) going to the 'riot', i have to say the communuity has hit a new low. everyone 'rioting' has proven to be whiny and lazy, and just want fast success with little or no effort. sure, it can be worse, but i ended up going to f2p to hunt scammers, and even the one i found wasn't as dumb or lazy as the 'rioters'...

 

as it's been said, there's far worse. not as bad as free games without rules, or even, like wookiemania/abacore pointed out, halo.

[WookieeMania12]

after (unknowingly) going to the 'riot', i have to say the communuity has hit a new low. everyone 'rioting' has proven to be whiny and lazy, and just want fast success with little or no effort. sure, it can be worse, but i ended up going to f2p to hunt scammers, and even the one i found wasn't as dumb or lazy as the 'rioters'...

 

as it's been said, there's far worse. not as bad as free games without rules, or even, like wookiemania/abacore pointed out, halo.

 

 

 

I'm not criticizing Halo MP, I like Halo; its just occasionally you'll meet some snothead.

 

 

 

Now, I may not have pointed this out, but when I first started playing Runescape, rarely anyone bugged me in the RSC days. Now you will have people that bug you, but I seem to have seen a decrease of idiots a year after I quit in August 2005. Its like this; a game has a lot of hype, but soon the immature players will all leave and start playing another cool l33t game.

 

 

 

The same with Halo; I stopped playing in July 2006, year later, aren't as many idiots as there used to be. I think it has to do with new games coming out and how eventually a lot of people are going to get addicted to some new 1337 world.