Do You Take Action Against Global Warming?

[Tutukuku]

 

i say,screw it!i'll die 2 years before "teh endzorz of tha world!!o NOEZ"

 

so yeah

 

FART ON THAT WARMING :^-^:

 

[llamster]

what the f is global warming

 

:roll:

[Ledusskapis]

 

I dropped bombs on Honda, GM and Ford. Then I peed on the burning ashes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i blew up the airport that your plane carryig the bombs took off from

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess theres a very thin line between saving the planet and terorism?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway does using a bike instead of car cuz youre underage counts?

[Pkmastachaos]

My family re-uses egg cartons. We buy them in bulk at costco and then when we're done, we recycle the cardboard from the large pack. Other then that, recycling paper, aluminum cans and glass and whatever else possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I can say my family does care about the environment a lot more then others. Hell, it's the least that we can do, global warming or not.

[pfilc23]

I don't do anything more now (since "global warming" has become a buzzword) than I have been doing for years. We recycle, try to be efficient in energy usage, and generally, try not to "waste". Honestly, it mostly comes down to money...I turn off lights when not needed so that my electric bill is lower...I recycle, because recycling services are free and it would cost me extra to "rent" a larger trash can...more efficient light bulbs usually also last longer. Sure, I'm also doing it because it helps prevent environmental problems, but I'm not going to lie and say that's the only reason I do them.

[Nadril]

I don't do anything more now (since "global warming" has become a buzzword) than I have been doing for years. We recycle, try to be efficient in energy usage, and generally, try not to "waste". Honestly, it mostly comes down to money...I turn off lights when not needed so that my electric bill is lower...I recycle, because recycling services are free and it would cost me extra to "rent" a larger trash can...more efficient light bulbs usually also last longer. Sure, I'm also doing it because it helps prevent environmental problems, but I'm not going to lie and say that's the only reason I do them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where I used to live it cost extra for recycling. :shock: #-o. Still did it anyways but it just makes you think, doesn't it?

[Dragonbait02]

I know! Let's save the planet! Let's use eco-friendly light bubls!

 

 

 

Now I'm off to work in my Cadillac.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone who owns a car cannot complain about global warming or climate change or whatever it's called now.

[Kevin_]

I try, when we have to stop for a passing train or a boat i useally tell my father to put his engine out.

[Kill_Thomas9]

All my house does it recycle...

 

 

 

Global warming doesnt really worry, I'm a good swimmer and I like hot holidays :P

 

 

 

But seriously I guess I do some stuff anyway, like I'd turn off the TV anyway to cut down on eletricity bills and I wont put the heater on if I have the window open.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yah. I'm all for global warming too. Except for the part where you DIE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dropped bombs on Honda, GM and Ford. Then I peed on the burning ashes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

shouldn't you blow up Hummer, Lincoln, and Dodge?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honda and ford actually have cars the polute less.

[cryztalwing]

The Hidden Agenda Behind The Bush Administration's BioFuel Plan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That bowl of Kellogg's Cornflakes on the breakfast table, or the portion of pasta or corn tortillas, cheese or meat on the table is going to rise in price over the coming months as sure as the sun rises in the East. Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the new world food price shock, conveniently timed to accompany our current world oil price shock.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Curiously it's ominously similar in many respects to the early 1970's when prices for oil and food both exploded by several hundred percent in a matter of months. That mid-1970's price explosion led President Nixon to ask his old pal, Arthur Burns, then Chairman of the Fed, to find a way to alter the CPI inflation data to take attention away from the rising prices. The result then was the now-commonplace publication of the absurd "core inflation" CPI numbers--sans oil and food. Stephen Roche was the young Fed economist who was assigned the statistical manipulation job by Burns.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The late American satirist, Mark Twain once quipped, "Buy land: They've stopped making it" Today we can say almost the same about corn or all grains worldwide. The world is in the early months of the greatest sustained rise in grain prices, for all major grains including maize, wheat, rice that we have seen in three decades. Those three crops constitute almost 90% of all grains cultivated in the world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Washington's calculated, absurd plan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's driving this extraordinary change? Here things get pretty interesting. The Bush Administration is making a major public relations push to convince the world it has turned into a "better steward of the environment." The problem is that many have fallen for the hype.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The center of his program, announced in his January State of the Union Address is called '20 in 10', cutting US gasoline use 20% by 2010. The official reason is to "reduce dependency on imported oil," as well as cutting unwanted "greenhouse gas" emissions. That isn't the case, but it makes good PR. Repeat it often enough and maybe most people will believe it. Maybe they won't realize their taxpayer subsidies to grow ethanol corn instead of feed corn are also driving the price of their daily bread through the roof.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The heart of the plan is a huge, taxpayer subsidized expansion of use of bio-ethanol for transport fuel. The President's plan requires production of 35 billion gallons (about 133 billion liters) of ethanol a year by 2017. Congress already mandated with the Energy Policy Act of 2005 that corn ethanol for fuel must rise from 4 billion gallons in 2006 to 7.5 billion in 2012. To make certain it will happen, farmers and big agribusiness giants like ADM or David Rockefeller get generous taxpayer subsidies to grow corn for fuel instead of food. Currently ethanol producers get a subsidy in the US of 51 cents per gallon ethanol paid to the blender, usually an oil company that blends it with gasoline for sale.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Phony green arguments

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bio-fuel-gasoline or fuel produced from refining food products-is being hyped as a solution to the controversial Global Warming problem. Leaving aside the faked science and the political interests behind the sudden hype about dangers of global warming, bio-fuels offer no net positive benefits over oil even under best conditions. Its advocates claim that present first generation bio-fuels "save up to 60% of carbon emission." As well, amid rising oil prices at $75 per barrel for Brent marker grades, governments such as Brazil's are frantic to substitute homegrown bio-fuels for imported gasoline. In Brazil today 70% of all cars have "flexi-fuel" engines able to switch from conventional gasoline to 100% bio-fuel or any mix. Bio-fuel production has become one of Brazil's major export industries as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The green claims for bio-fuel as a friendly and better fuel than gasoline are at best dubious, if not outright fraudulent. Depending on who runs the tests, ethanol has little if any effect on exhaust-pipe emissions in current car models. It has significant emission, however, of some toxins including formaldehyde and acetaldehyde, a suspected neurotoxin which has been banned as carcinogenic in California.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ethanol is not some benign substance as we are led to think from the industry propaganda. It is highly corrosive to pipelines as well as to seals and fuel systems of existing car or other gasoline engines. It requires special new gas pumps. All that conversion costs money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But the killer-diller about ethanol is that it holds at least 30% less energy per gallon than normal gasoline, translating into a loss in fuel economy per gallon of at least 25% over gasoline for an Ethanol E-85% blend. No advocate of the ethanol boondoggle addresses the huge social cost which is beginning to hit the dining room tables across the US, Europe and the rest of the world. Food prices are exploding as corn, soybeans and all cereal grain prices are going through the roof because of the astronomical-Congress-driven-demand for corn to burn for bio-fuel.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This year the Massachusetts Institute of Technology issued a report concluding that using corn-based ethanol instead of gasoline will have no impact on greenhouse gas emissions, and would even expand fossil fuel use due to increased demand for fertilizer and irrigation to expand acreage of ethanol crops. And according to MIT "natural gas consumption is 66% of total corn ethanol production energy," meaning huge new strains on natural gas supply, pushing prices there higher.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The idea that the world can "grow" out of oil dependency with bio-fuels is the PR hype being used to sell what is shaping up to be the mist dangerous threat to the planet's food supply since creation of patented genetically manipulated corn and crops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

US farms become bio-fuel factories

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The main reason US and world grain prices are soaring in the past two years and now pre-programmed to continue rising at a major pace, is the conversion of US farmland to become de facto bio-fuel factories. In 2006 US farmland devoted to bio-fuel crops increased by 48%. None of that land was replaced for food crop cultivation. The tax subsidies make it far too profitable to produce ethanol fuel.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since 2001 the amount of maize used to produce bio-ethanol in the USA has risen 300%, trend increasing going forward. In fact, in 2006 US maize or corn crops for bio-fuel equaled the tonnage of corn used for export. In 2007 it is estimated it will exceed the corn for export by a hefty amount. The US is the world's leading corn exporter, most going for animal feed to EU and other countries. The traditional USDA statistics on acreage planted to corn is no longer a useful metric of food prices as all marginal acreage is going for bio-fuel growing. The amount available for animal and human feed is actually declining.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brazil and China are similarly switching from food to bio-fuels with large swatches of land.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A result of the bio-fuel revolution in agriculture is that world carryover or reserve stocks of grains have been plunging for six of the past seven years. Carryover reserve stocks of all grains fell at the end of 2006 to 57 days of consumption, the lowest level since 1972. Little wonder that world grain prices rose 100% over the past 12 months. This is just the start.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That decline in grain reserves, the measure of food security in event of drought or harvest failure-an increasingly common event in recent years-is pre-programmed to continue going as far ahead as the eye can see. Assuming modest world population increase annually of some 70 million people over the coming decade, especially in the Indian subcontinent and Africa, the stagnation or even decline in the tonnages of feed corn or other feed grains including rice that is harvested annually as growing amounts of bio-ethanol and other bio-fuels displaces food grain, in fact means we are just getting started on the greatest transformation of global agriculture since the introduction of the agribusiness revolution with fertilizers and mechanized farming after World War II. The difference is that this revolution is at the expense of food production. That preprograms exploding global grain prices, increased poverty and malnutrition. And the effect on gasoline import demand will be minimal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prof. M.A. Altieri of Berkeley University estimates that dedicating all USA corn and soybean production acreage to bio-fuels would only meet 12% of gasoline and 6% of diesel needs. He notes that though one-fifth of last year's corn harvest went to bio-ethanol, it met a mere 3% of energy needs. But the farmland is converting at a record pace. In 2006 more than 50% of Iowa and South Dakota corn went to ethanol refineries. Farmers across the Midwest, desperate for more income after years of depressed corn prices, are abandoning traditional crop rotation to grow exclusively soybeans or corn with dramatic added impact on soil erosion and needs for added chemical pesticides. In the US some 41% of all herbicides used are already applied to corn. Monsanto and other makers of glyphosate herbicides like Roundup are clearly smiling on the way to the bank.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Going global with bio-fuels

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Bush-Lula pact is just the start of a growing global rush to plant crops for bio-fuel. Huge sugarcane, palm oil and soy plantations for bio-fuel refining are taking over forests and grasslands in Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Ecuador and Paraguay. Soy cultivation has already caused the deforestation of 21 million hectares in Brazil and 14 million ha in Argentina, with no end in sight, as world grain prices continue to rise. Soya is used for bio-diesel fuel.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Big oil is also driving the bio-fuels bandwagon. Prof. David Pimentel of Cornell University and other scientists claim that net energy output from bio-ethanol fuel is less than the fossil fuel energy used to produce the ethanol. Measuring all energy inputs to produce ethanol from production of nitrogen fertilizer to energy needed to clean the considerable waste from bio-fuel refineries, Pimintel's research showed a net energy loss of 22% for bio-fuel-they use more energy than they produce. That translates into little threat to oil demand and huge profit for clever oil giants that re-profile themselves as "green energy" producers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So it's little wonder that ExxonMobil, Chevron and BP are all into bio-fuels. This past May, BP announced the largest ever R&D grant to a university, $500 million to the University of California-Berkeley to fund BP-dictated R&D into alternative energy including bio-fuels. Stanford's Global Climate and Energy Program got $100 million from ExxonMobil; University of California-Davis got $25 million from Chevron for its Bio-energy Research Group. Princeton University's Carbon Mitigation Initiative takes $15 million from BP.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lord Browne, the disgraced former CEO of BP declared in 2006, "The world needs new technologies to maintain adequate supplies of energy for the future. We believe bioscience can bring immense benefits to the energy sector." The bio-fuel market is booming like few others today. This all is a paradise for global agribusiness industrial companies like Cargill, ADM and Monsanto, Syngenta.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All this, combined with severe weather problems in China, Australia, Ukraine and large parts of the EU growing areas this harvest season, guarantee that grain prices are set to explode further in coming months and years. Some are gleefully reporting the end of the era of "cheap food." With disappearing food security reserves and disappearing acreage going to plant corn and grains for food, the bio-fuel transformation will impact global food prices massively in coming years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another agenda behind Ethanol?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Uh Huh. The dramatic embrace of bio-fuels by the Bush Administration since 2005 has clearly been the global driver for soaring grain and food prices in the past 18 months. The evidence suggests this is no accident of sloppy legislative preparation. The US Government has been researching and developing bio-fuels since the 1970's. The bio-ethanol architects did their homework we can be assured. It's increasingly clear that the same people who brought us oil price inflation are now deliberately creating parallel food price inflation. We have had a rise in average oil prices of some 300% since the end of 2000 when George W. Bush and [bleep] Halliburton Cheney made oil the central preoccupation of US foreign policy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Last year, as bio-ethanol production first became a major market factor, corn prices rose by some 130% on the Chicago in 14 months. It was more than known when Congress and the Bush Administration made their heavy push for bio-ethanol in 2005 that world grain reserves had been declining at alarming levels for several years at a time when global demand, driven especially by growing wealth And increasing meat consumption in China, was rising.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As a result of the diversion of record acreages of US and Brazilian corn and soybeans to bio-fuel production, food reserves are literally disappearing. Global food security, according to FAO data, is at its lowest since 1972. Curiously that was just the time that Henry Kissinger and the Nixon Administration engineered, in cahoots with Cargill and ADM-the major backers of the ethanol scam today-what was called The Great Grain Robbery, sale of huge volumes of US grain to the Soviet Union in exchange for sales of record volumes of Russian oil to the West. Both oil and corn prices rose by 1975 some 300-400% as a result. Just how that worked, I treated in detail in: A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Today a new element has replaced USSR grain demand and harvest shortfalls. Bio-fuel demand, fed by US government subsidies is literally linking food prices to oil prices. The scale of the subsidized bio-fuel consumption has exploded so dramatically since the beginning of 2006 when the US Energy Policy Act of 2005 first began to impact crop planting decisions, not only in the USA, that there is emerging a de facto competition between people and cars for the same grains. Lester Brown recently noted, "We're looking at competition in the global market between 800 million automobiles and the world's two billion poorest people for the same commodity, the same grains. We are now in a new economic era where oil and food are interchangeable commodities because we can convert grain, sugar cane, soybeans-anything-into fuel for cars. In effect the price of oil is beginning to set the price of food."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the mid-1970's Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, a prot̮̩̉̉g̮̩̉̉ of the Rockefeller family and of its institutions stated, "Control the oil and you control entire nations; control the food and you control the people." The same cast of characters who brought the world the Iraq war, the global scramble to control oil, who brought us patented genetically manipulated seeds and now Terminator suicide seeds, and who cry about the "problem of world over-population," are now backing conversion of global grain production to burn as fuel at a time of declining global grain reserves. That alone should give pause for thought. As the popular saying goes, "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing major here. At my house we've been gradually replacing light bulbs with the spiral ones and we turn most stuff off when we're not using it, but we're not going lengths to bike instead of take a car or anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope that you know that those spiral ones have Mercury in them. And if they break, unlike the normal light builbs, you can take a broom and clean it up. The Mercury will still be there, and you need to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A: Never use a vacuum cleaner to clean up mercury. The vacuum will put mercury into the air and increase exposure. The vacuum appliance will be contaminated and have to be disposed of in a hazard waste disposal site.ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

[purpieman2]

i'm not driving because i dont need to and i dont want to pollute

[fgfuyfyuiuy0]

I contributed. Made my Dad pick a Hummer instead of a Lexus.

[Numer0_un0]

Edit: OK that wasn't very clear. Let's put it this way...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the past, there have been mass extinctions from global warming... but not the ice caps melting, etc., like they go on about today. Something else entirely. So... these natural global warmings have re-occured throughout history about a half-dozen times now (that we can measure). Humans are doomed anyway. Plus, the sun's going to end its own life in the next few billion years anyway, so... yeah.

[Madouge]

TI hope that you know that those spiral ones have Mercury in them. And if they break, unlike the normal light builbs, you can take a broom and clean it up. The Mercury will still be there, and you need to

 

 

 

A: Never use a vacuum cleaner to clean up mercury. The vacuum will put mercury into the air and increase exposure. The vacuum appliance will be contaminated and have to be disposed of in a hazard waste disposal site.ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ