Homosexuality: Right or Wrong?

[Quoi_Tu]

 

 

 

EDIT: Woops. Didn't read any of the above stuff except for the last one. And education was an issue. The teachers union had already said that parents wouldn't be able to pull their kids out from learning about gay marriage and one school took kids on a field trip to a lesbian wedding.

 

 

 

 

 

A field trip to a lesbian wedding? I guess the zoo wasn't interesting enough.

[Ginger_Warrior]

EDIT: Woops. Didn't read any of the above stuff except for the last one. And education was an issue. The teachers union had already said that parents wouldn't be able to pull their kids out from learning about gay marriage and one school took kids on a field trip to a lesbian wedding.

 

Kids going to a gay marriage. Oh no?

 

 

 

Seriously, I was raised an Atheist and I went to a church on a school day out when I was aged 8. The history lessons I received on Ireland were given by a Protestant Unionist, despite me agreeing in principle with the Republicans' cause and being half-Irish myself. You don't find my parents complaining about the influence school had on me.

 

 

 

Don't tell me you consider that as evidence of forcing liberal morals onto school children, unless you're afraid of children seeing the world around them for themselves. Challenging children about subjects they may otherwise feel awkward with is part of education. It allows them to approach those issues again later on in life with some sense of maturity.

[Skull]

 

As too Cheeseme666, I agree with you. However, everyone at school (except my friends and teachers and such) think I am gay, simply because I have a deep, yet feminine voice. So even though I am entirely straight, hanging out with my gay friends doesn't help the situation. Also, I've bad experiences, many of my Gay friends hit on me, it's caused many fights. But I'm nowhere near homophobia, but a little bit close I guess, I've ended many friendships when I found out they were Gay, because I felt extremely uncomfortable.

 

 

 

Blatant contradiction?

 

 

 

Anyway, I don't think that African Americans in California can EVER complain about being oppressed again for the blatant disrespect the showed towards the gays. You think of all races the blacks would have voted for equal rights.

 

 

 

"All men are created equal" should be changed to "All men are created equal except Indians, women, gays, and pretty much everyone else in the minority, or anyone else who practices a lifestyle which religion doesn't approve of." I suppose that doesn't roll off the tongue as well though, huh?

 

 

 

Why is it that we're scared of something that's different?

 

 

 

PS: Saru, Your friends deserve better.

 

All men are created equal, except some are more equal than others.

 

 

 

I don't understand how minorities could not vote for equal rights. I'm for equal rights and I'm pretty much in the majority across the board. Except maybe political views. They always come for the communists first.

 

 

 

Gay marriage is legal where I live though, so it's a step in the right direction.

[magekillr]

God says quite clearly in the Bible that eating of shellfish is an abomination. It's right in there by the part that says homosexuality is an abomination. If God is so clearly against it, I don't see how we can allow the sanctity of marriage to be tarnished by those who arrogantly go against God's will.

 

 

 

We're not saying that lobster eaters are bad people, of course, we love the sinner but hate the sin. We just remember a time when marriage was a beautiful union between a man & a woman, so that they could start a family and raise their children in a stable, loving environment, where everything was black & white. Well, we don't actually "remember" it so much as fantasize about it, but we've read about a few instances where that has happened, more or less.

 

 

 

We just don't want the sinners to belittle what is already a rapidly declining state of sanctity, what with 50% divorce rates, drive through chapels, Elvis impersonator chapels in Vegas, mail order brides, arranged marriages, pet weddings, stunt weddings, reality television weddings. If we allow lobster eaters to marry than what will we have left?

 

 

 

Traditionally, everybody knows that wedding dinners have consisted of choices between chicken or beef. How can we allow those who choose to eat shellfish to tarnish the way marriage has always been? (By "always", we are of course referring only to recent history, we all know marriage hasn't always been this way across the board.)

 

 

 

We hope you will not just join this group, but contact your local representative and do all you can to preserve the sanctity of marriage by preventing others from sharing in that happiness. Marriage, after all, is not just about love between two people, it is about what kind of person those two people are.

 

 

 

Think of the children, people!

 

 

 

Just a piece that my friend wrote titled, "Save marriage from the shellfish".

[Lenticular_J]

I just want to say that I am homophobic - quite extremely. It isn't like I have a problem with gays, or them marrying or anything, but if a guy were ever to hit on me, I'd likely punch him in the face. It's just who I am.

[J a m e s]

I don't know any gay people irl.

[Quoi_Tu]

I just want to say that I am homophobic - quite extremely. It isn't like I have a problem with gays, or them marrying or anything, but if a guy were ever to hit on me, I'd likely punch him in the face. It's just who I am.

 

 

 

I would think it would be a compliment. An awkward compliment, but a compliment nonetheless!

[J a m e s]

I just want to say that I am homophobic - quite extremely. It isn't like I have a problem with gays, or them marrying or anything, but if a guy were ever to hit on me, I'd likely punch him in the face. It's just who I am.

 

 

 

Hey man! How you doin'?

 

 

 

You know you're homophobic if you thought that was gay...

[Rebdragon]

I just want to say that I am homophobic - quite extremely. It isn't like I have a problem with gays, or them marrying or anything, but if a guy were ever to hit on me, I'd likely punch him in the face. It's just who I am.

 

"Hey, I think you're attractive"

 

 

 

"DIE"

[jackattack]

EDIT: Woops. Didn't read any of the above stuff except for the last one. And education was an issue. The teachers union had already said that parents wouldn't be able to pull their kids out from learning about gay marriage and one school took kids on a field trip to a lesbian wedding.

 

Kids going to a gay marriage. Oh no?

 

 

 

Seriously, I was raised an Atheist and I went to a church on a school day out when I was aged 8. The history lessons I received on Ireland were given by a Protestant Unionist, despite me agreeing in principle with the Republicans' cause and being half-Irish myself. You don't find my parents complaining about the influence school had on me.

 

 

 

Don't tell me you consider that as evidence of forcing liberal morals onto school children, unless you're afraid of children seeing the world around them for themselves. Challenging children about subjects they may otherwise feel awkward with is part of education. It allows them to approach those issues again later on in life with some sense of maturity.

 

 

 

Well maybe to you that doesn't mean anything but to most people it does. That was one of the main reasons it passed. To a lot of people it went from letting gays do their own thing to forcing it upon children. I wouldn't want my six year old learning about gay marriage alongside regular marriage. And the teachers union basically said that they were going to teach it "Whether you Like it or not!" to quote Gavin Newsom.

[J a m e s]

EDIT: Woops. Didn't read any of the above stuff except for the last one. And education was an issue. The teachers union had already said that parents wouldn't be able to pull their kids out from learning about gay marriage and one school took kids on a field trip to a lesbian wedding.

 

Kids going to a gay marriage. Oh no?

 

 

 

Seriously, I was raised an Atheist and I went to a church on a school day out when I was aged 8. The history lessons I received on Ireland were given by a Protestant Unionist, despite me agreeing in principle with the Republicans' cause and being half-Irish myself. You don't find my parents complaining about the influence school had on me.

 

 

 

Don't tell me you consider that as evidence of forcing liberal morals onto school children, unless you're afraid of children seeing the world around them for themselves. Challenging children about subjects they may otherwise feel awkward with is part of education. It allows them to approach those issues again later on in life with some sense of maturity.

 

 

 

Well maybe to you that doesn't mean anything but to most people it does. That was one of the main reasons it passed. To a lot of people it went from letting gays do their own thing to forcing it upon children. I wouldn't want my six year old learning about gay marriage alongside regular marriage. And the teachers union basically said that they were going to teach it "Whether you Like it or not!" to quote Gavin Newsom.

 

 

 

What the hell does that even mean? How do you "learn about gay marriage" in school? Oh god, your kids might assume that, upon hearing of the bond of marriage, any two people can do it! THE HORROR.

 

 

 

THE ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING HORROR.

[jackattack]

Well obviously you don't care. I do. When I have kids if they learn about marriage in school I'd like them to learn the traditional definition of marriage or at least have the opportunity to pull them from class when they teach "Heather has two mommies" Which the teachers union said you can't do.

[user1991]

Well obviously you don't care. I do. When I have kids if they learn about marriage in school I'd like them to learn the traditional definition of marriage or at least have the opportunity to pull them from class when they teach "Heather has two mommies" Which the teachers union said you can't do.

 

 

 

AND WHEN I HAVE KIDZ IMA TEACH EM THAT ONLY WHITE PEOPLE CAN MARRY AND THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE SLAVES CAUSE WE ARE MADE BY GOD AND GOD SAID "You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you." IN THE BIBLE AND THEREFORE WHITE POWER!

 

 

 

CHECKMATE BLACK PEOPLE!

 

 

 

[/intense, over the top, point making sarcasm]

[jackattack]

Oh sweet. I didn't know I was a racist too. Good point dude.

[user1991]

Oh sweet. I didn't know I was a racist too. Good point dude.

 

 

 

You aren't a racist.. but

 

 

 

Discriminating against gay people is no different than discriminating against black people. Both are genetic.

 

 

 

So you wanting to not teach your kids about gay marriage is pretty much the same as people 60 years ago not wanting to teach their kids about black/white people marrying..

[jackattack]

Not even a little bit. There is absolutely nothing people in a civil union can't do that married people can.

[Sly_Wizard]

Don't tell me you consider that as evidence of forcing liberal morals onto school children, unless you're afraid of children seeing the world around them for themselves. Challenging children about subjects they may otherwise feel awkward with is part of education. It allows them to approach those issues again later on in life with some sense of maturity.

 

 

 

No, it's not.

[user1991]

Not even a little bit. There is absolutely nothing people in a civil union can't do that married people can.

 

 

 

Separate but equal?

[Sly_Wizard]

 

Just a side note: Separation of church and state was written in a private letter, it is in no part of the law, anywhere.

 

 

 

As too Cheeseme666, I agree with you. However, everyone at school (except my friends and teachers and such) think I am gay, simply because I have a deep, yet feminine voice. So even though I am entirely straight, hanging out with my gay friends doesn't help the situation. Also, I've bad experiences, many of my Gay friends hit on me, it's caused many fights. But I'm nowhere near homophobia, but a little bit close I guess, I've ended many friendships when I found out they were Gay, because I felt extremely uncomfortable.

 

 

 

It is by implication in the first amendment, namely the establishment clause and free exercise clause which together give you 'seperation of church and state'.

 

 

 

Saruman totally wins this argument.

 

 

 

:thumbsup:

 

 

 

I'm not sure how many times I've had to tell people that the idea of separation of church and state is nowhere to be found in the Constitution. The establish clause has nothing to do with a separation of church and state, only that you're allowed to practice as you will (Aside from human and I think animal sacrifices).

[jackattack]

Oh wait. I guess I am racist. This is ridiculous. Your such a big atheist why would you care about marriage at all? It's a religious sacrament that's been morphed into a social institution. Let's just get rid of marriages altogether and have civil unions for everyone. If the state gave out communion would you want it to be given to Muslims or Buddhists?

[user1991]

 

Just a side note: Separation of church and state was written in a private letter, it is in no part of the law, anywhere.

 

 

 

As too Cheeseme666, I agree with you. However, everyone at school (except my friends and teachers and such) think I am gay, simply because I have a deep, yet feminine voice. So even though I am entirely straight, hanging out with my gay friends doesn't help the situation. Also, I've bad experiences, many of my Gay friends hit on me, it's caused many fights. But I'm nowhere near homophobia, but a little bit close I guess, I've ended many friendships when I found out they were Gay, because I felt extremely uncomfortable.

 

 

 

It is by implication in the first amendment, namely the establishment clause and free exercise clause which together give you 'seperation of church and state'.

 

 

 

Saruman totally wins this argument.

 

 

 

:thumbsup:

 

 

 

I'm not sure how many times I have to tell people that the idea of separation of church and state is nowhere to be found in the Constitution.

 

 

 

If Church and State weren't separate, you realise we'd still be in the middle ages?

[Sly_Wizard]

 

Just a side note: Separation of church and state was written in a private letter, it is in no part of the law, anywhere.

 

 

 

As too Cheeseme666, I agree with you. However, everyone at school (except my friends and teachers and such) think I am gay, simply because I have a deep, yet feminine voice. So even though I am entirely straight, hanging out with my gay friends doesn't help the situation. Also, I've bad experiences, many of my Gay friends hit on me, it's caused many fights. But I'm nowhere near homophobia, but a little bit close I guess, I've ended many friendships when I found out they were Gay, because I felt extremely uncomfortable.

 

 

 

It is by implication in the first amendment, namely the establishment clause and free exercise clause which together give you 'seperation of church and state'.

 

 

 

Saruman totally wins this argument.

 

 

 

:thumbsup:

 

 

 

I'm not sure how many times I have to tell people that the idea of separation of church and state is nowhere to be found in the Constitution.

 

 

 

If Church and State weren't separate, you realise we'd still be in the middle ages?

 

 

 

*Laughs at that ridiculous notion*

 

 

 

Okay okay. I've got time. Amuse me.

[The Dark Lord]

Well obviously you don't care. I do. When I have kids if they learn about marriage in school I'd like them to learn the traditional definition of marriage or at least have the opportunity to pull them from class when they teach "Heather has two mommies" Which the teachers union said you can't do.

 

 

 

I wud' advise that you move to the highly deeveloped South, where Christianity is all but the official state religee-on and put yo' kids in ah protestant schoo-el. I hear 'dat da Deep South is 200 years ahead of the rest of the United States. Here in da South, we have ah advanced social systee-em. Black folk know der place an' answer white folk when they speak to them by sayin', "Yassir!" and we are workin' hard to ban 'dat damn interracial marriage bullhockey. Praise Jesus!

[jackattack]

Yes of course. I forgot all people who live in the south are racist fundamentalists. Probably not as racist as me though.

[Sly_Wizard]

Yes of course. I forgot all people who live in the south are racist fundamentalists. Probably not as racist as me though.

 

 

 

Yeah, I know. I'm a racist. And illiterate.

 

 

 

Ah well... It beats being emo :