rushrock Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I don't know: Something tells me that guy's trying to make a funny here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmanpur3 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 :thumbsup: tyvm it takes alot of time and skill It dosent take 98 pages =/ penis + penis = wrong vagina + vagina=wrong Good thing guys have more than just penises and girls have more than just vaginas then right? ;) May the presents of our lord and savior, Santa, be with you this holiday season!First annual Clausmas - 2009 December 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenga Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 :thumbsup: tyvm it takes alot of time and skill It dosent take 98 pages =/ penis + penis = wrong vagina + vagina=wrong On tipit you will at least need some theory (hopefully not involving religion) to justify your thinking. (sorry I just don't look at 'god said it' as a reasonable reason.) Ponies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainy_Day Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 If I see a same sex married couple, I just think of it being as wrong as an interracial married couple (of different colours, I mean). But you just have to live with it. If you love someone who's the same sex as you, or different colour than you, then I guess thats fine. Its not really other people's business. Although it can get pretty disturbing... Love in its many forms is disturbing? Right. I understand that we live in times where people have issues with homosexuality, but with interracial couples? Goodness, I thought the world long since overcame that obstacle many years ago. I wouldn't even bat an eye lid if I say an interracial couple, nor if I saw a homosexual couple. Live and let live as it were. He's allowed to have his opinion. Actually, his post made a very valid point at demonstrating the need for tolerance. I never said he was not allowed his opinion, I merely provided him with my view and his views. :thumbup: :thumbsup: tyvm it takes alot of time and skill It dosent take 98 pages =/ penis + penis = wrong vagina + vagina=wrong That merely establishes that in terms of reproduction it doesn't work. :P ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)RIP Michaelangelopolous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPokemon Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 If I see a same sex married couple, I just think of it being as wrong as an interracial married couple (of different colours, I mean). But you just have to live with it. If you love someone who's the same sex as you, or different colour than you, then I guess thats fine. Its not really other people's business. Although it can get pretty disturbing... Love in its many forms is disturbing? Right. I understand that we live in times where people have issues with homosexuality, but with interracial couples? Goodness, I thought the world long since overcame that obstacle many years ago. I wouldn't even bat an eye lid if I say an interracial couple, nor if I saw a homosexual couple. Live and let live as it were. He's allowed to have his opinion. Actually, his post made a very valid point at demonstrating the need for tolerance. I never said he was not allowed his opinion, I merely provided him with my view and his views. :thumbup: I feel proud of my post =) :thumbsup: tyvm it takes alot of time and skill It dosent take 98 pages =/ penis + penis = wrong vagina + vagina=wrong Theres more to homosexuality than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmanpur3 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I'll post here what I told one of my friends last night, The only people that can say homosexuality is wrong with any degree of credibility are those who feel sex should only be done in an attempt to reproduce - aka those who are against sex for pleasure/casual sex. May the presents of our lord and savior, Santa, be with you this holiday season!First annual Clausmas - 2009 December 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin0001 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Homo=wrong So Homosapiens (aka humans) are wrong as well? Then in that way same sex relationships are wrong also. So in general Humans are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmanpur3 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I'll post here what I told one of my friends last night, The only people that can say homosexuality is wrong with any degree of credibility are those who feel sex should only be done in an attempt to reproduce - aka those who are against sex for pleasure/casual sex. Also known as "Super-Christians" or Conservatives. For the most part yes, but I've noticed a lot of people on this thread who are claiming homosexuality is wrong when I can say with a degree of certainty they aren't of the opinion that sex should only ever be done in an attempt to reproduce - and it's getting ridiculous because their only reason for thinking it's wrong is "I think two guys having sex is gross, so it's wrong". Besides, even most 'Super-Christians' and Conservatives would probably tell you that sex not intended for reproduction is fine provided the couple is married, because even they recognize it as a form of passionate love making. May the presents of our lord and savior, Santa, be with you this holiday season!First annual Clausmas - 2009 December 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kill2pleasure Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 What i feel You have the right to love who you want to love Male or Female, personally i woudl never sleep with another man, but i do not find it horribly discusting if someone else does it, i just donm't want to hear about it... You are your own person, do not let society\religion tell you otherwise Home World: 99Irc-Chat: #Aod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven_gaurd0 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 What i feel You have the right to love who you want to love Male or Female, personally i woudl never sleep with another man, but i do not find it horribly discusting if someone else does it, i just donm't want to hear about it... You are your own person, do not let society\religion tell you otherwise You know, unless you're defined BY your religion. As in, your religion (the ideals) is what has given you shape over time, just like your parents or the media has. Seriously, people, there is no such thing as your own 'self', SOMETHING external defines you, whether it be because you love it and listen to it or because you hate it and set yourself to oppose it. EDIT: Also, what if my 'own person' is killing other people? Society tells me that is wrong; should I ignore that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattle Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 What i feel You have the right to love who you want to love Male or Female, personally i woudl never sleep with another man, but i do not find it horribly discusting if someone else does it, i just donm't want to hear about it... You are your own person, do not let society\religion tell you otherwise You know, unless you're defined BY your religion. As in, your religion (the ideals) is what has given you shape over time, just like your parents or the media has. Seriously, people, there is no such thing as your own 'self', SOMETHING external defines you, whether it be because you love it and listen to it or because you hate it and set yourself to oppose it. EDIT: Also, what if my 'own person' is killing other people? Society tells me that is wrong; should I ignore that? Yep, we must all realize that we are products of our environment. Peer Groups as my Govt teacher refers to them. [hide=]You think you got it bad?My school blocks Neopets.Those dirty bastards try to keep me from feeding my Ixi. Ha![/hide]Important Slayer Drops: masks-8, leafbladed sword, gmaul-3Important treasure trail rewards: zammy page 1(3), rune kite g, zammy crozier, sara mitre, sara dhide, rune helm h1, guth page 4(2), zammy full helm, guth legs(3), sara chaps, guth page 3, zammy legs(2), and sara full helm, zammy pl8, zammy page 2, rune cane, sara page, sara crozier, zammy crozier, guth coif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 After a certain age you choose how to be affected by your circumstances. We are only as molded by society as we choose to be. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattle Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 After a certain age you choose how to be affected by your circumstances. We are only as molded by society as we choose to be. From what i've seen that's only true to a point. While some have the privilege to make their own decisions and conclusions later on in life, for the most part, humans tend to rarely diverge from what they've been taught as children. And when they do, its usually to a small extent. Life molds us whether we want it to or not, and while we can choose not to let somethings mold us later on, what's already molded us can rarely ever be abandoned. [hide=]You think you got it bad?My school blocks Neopets.Those dirty bastards try to keep me from feeding my Ixi. Ha![/hide]Important Slayer Drops: masks-8, leafbladed sword, gmaul-3Important treasure trail rewards: zammy page 1(3), rune kite g, zammy crozier, sara mitre, sara dhide, rune helm h1, guth page 4(2), zammy full helm, guth legs(3), sara chaps, guth page 3, zammy legs(2), and sara full helm, zammy pl8, zammy page 2, rune cane, sara page, sara crozier, zammy crozier, guth coif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomy Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Homo=wrong So Homosapiens (aka humans) are wrong as well? Then in that way same sex relationships are wrong also. So in general Humans are wrong. I hate it when people do this, you know exactly what he meant :wall: Doomy edit: I like sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Homo=wrong So Homosapiens (aka humans) are wrong as well? Then in that way same sex relationships are wrong also. So in general Humans are wrong. I hate it when people do this, you know exactly what he meant :wall: Agreed. There's no need to be a smart [wagon] Howlin, especially when it's not even smart. As for the debate of whether we're influenced by our environment, of course we are. If you think about it, there's nothing else to influence us, though there are good and bad ways to be influenced. A rational thinker will consume information, process it, criticise it and then form an opinion of it. A rational thinker won't be bound to one prepackaged belief system but will be influenced by life and it's experiences in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauke Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 After a certain age you choose how to be affected by your circumstances. We are only as molded by society as we choose to be. Sorry, but we're not living in the seventies anymore. You're wrong. Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magekillr Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 After a certain age you choose how to be affected by your circumstances. We are only as molded by society as we choose to be. Are you saying with regard to homosexuality? Please, that's ridiculous. That could be the case with what we're attracted to on the basis of race, or aesthetics, but not gender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intermagma Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Well, I dont think its wrong. It's their choice. I'm especially a fan of lesbians, because I like their videos on the internet :P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattle Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Well, I dont think its wrong. It's their choice. I'm especially a fan of lesbians, because I like their videos on the internet :P. :lol: :lol: :lol: found that hilarious. :lol: :lol: : [hide=]You think you got it bad?My school blocks Neopets.Those dirty bastards try to keep me from feeding my Ixi. Ha![/hide]Important Slayer Drops: masks-8, leafbladed sword, gmaul-3Important treasure trail rewards: zammy page 1(3), rune kite g, zammy crozier, sara mitre, sara dhide, rune helm h1, guth page 4(2), zammy full helm, guth legs(3), sara chaps, guth page 3, zammy legs(2), and sara full helm, zammy pl8, zammy page 2, rune cane, sara page, sara crozier, zammy crozier, guth coif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 After a certain age you choose how to be affected by your circumstances. We are only as molded by society as we choose to be. Are you saying with regard to homosexuality? Please, that's ridiculous. That could be the case with what we're attracted to on the basis of race, or aesthetics, but not gender. No, that was directed at someone saying your environment controls who you are. Being gay or not is almost entirely excepted to be at least partly genetic(I think mostly if not all). That was more of a general statement disagreeing with the notion you become what is around you, influenced yes but not made into. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_man_army Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Slight logical problem with the "being gay is genetic point" - they have no way to pass on their genetics. That being said, I don't think its a choice, more a matter of taste in the same way that heterosexuals have preferences regarding what type of men/women they like. Taste, I'd say, isn't a choice - you can't help your taste for example I if I don't like a certain type of female, it isn't something I've chosen or can help, it's just the way I react to that type of woman. He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Slight logical problem with the "being gay is genetic point" - they have no way to pass on their genetics. well, thats why I dont like to say being gay is 100% genetic. It does seem flawed, but being gay isnt a one gene thing. When some amount of genes "line up" you end up with someone that will have a tendency towards homosexuality. Even so, it doesnt mean they will be gay, just like how someone with alcoholic parents can be completely sober their whole life. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Slight logical problem with the "being gay is genetic point" - they have no way to pass on their genetics. That being said, I don't think its a choice, more a matter of taste in the same way that heterosexuals have preferences regarding what type of men/women they like. Taste, I'd say, isn't a choice - you can't help your taste for example I if I don't like a certain type of female, it isn't something I've chosen or can help, it's just the way I react to that type of woman. It might seem counter-intuitive, but it could still have a genetic component to it. Here's a possible explanation to male homosexuality: http://www.slate.com/id/2194232/ You'd also have to consider that homosexual behaviour is seen in the animal kingdom, in which case there's probably some genetic reason for it. This article suggests that sexually antagonistic selection has also be found in animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmanpur3 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 You'd also have to consider that homosexual behaviour is seen in the animal kingdom, in which case there's probably some genetic reason for it. All that means is they haven't found another way to release their man-juice when the females aren't available. I highly doubt animals are attracted to one another seeing as how my dog tries humping his stuffed bunny on a regular basis, and if that's the case (no attraction) then they just have sex for sex, not for love - and that means they don't care what it is they're doing as long as they're doing something. Obviously females are their first choice because it's probably the most pleasurable for them. May the presents of our lord and savior, Santa, be with you this holiday season!First annual Clausmas - 2009 December 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven_gaurd0 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 You'd also have to consider that homosexual behaviour is seen in the animal kingdom, in which case there's probably some genetic reason for it. All that means is they haven't found another way to release their man-juice when the females aren't available. I highly doubt animals are attracted to one another seeing as how my dog tries humping his stuffed bunny on a regular basis, and if that's the case (no attraction) then they just have sex for sex, not for love - and that means they don't care what it is they're doing as long as they're doing something. Obviously females are their first choice because it's probably the most pleasurable for them. My reckoning is that homosexual animals are, yeah, pretty much just horny and confused. Any animal can get angsty at times. Besides, are we to bring ourselves down to the standards of animals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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