Teenage pregnancy is a great way to ruin your and your partners life.

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So, you've decided to ruin your life? I think that sums it up well.

 

 

 

Off topic a bit, but what the smeg is with these people saying, "Oh my God, I'm pro-life!" and all this rubbish. Well, what does that make the other people? Anti-life?! They're not going around stabbing you right now, are they?

Considering abortion is killing(whether it's legally murder or not), anti-life sums it up well.

 

 

 

If you're dumb enough to have sex, especially unprotected, abortion just seems like an immature, selfish way to get out of it. I personally couldn't care less what other teenagers choose, it's not my call to make. But I'm not getting into that before marriage.

 

 

 

If you're dumb enough to sit out in the sun without sunscreen and don't put sunblock on, and get skin cancer. Don't get it removed you should live with your mistake. You're a moron.

There is a huge difference between skin cancer and a HUMAN LIFE. Abortion is killing babies no matter how way you look at it. I don't see how you can justify it.

 

 

 

You're using very emotive terms to define what abortion is. I could do the very same thing - abortion is a life planning and life affirming strategy by disposing of an undeveloped cellular product. You can spin any old view with the semantics you choose to use.

 

 

 

Going off of that, would you class an act such as using the morning after pill or stem cell research to be 'baby killing'? If so, feel free to explain how a conglomeration of cells generally no more in number than 1000 (a conservative estimate) and with no definable features to be a baby.

 

 

 

It has the potential to be a baby. Abortion is the killing of something that is not an actual baby but eventually will become a baby.

 

My [bleep] can become a baby too. You want to put my [bleep] in a carriage and feed it milk?

 

 

 

If your mom was pro choice, maybe she shoulda made the right one with you dude.

 

 

 

If you cant come into a serious discussion and be mature about it, get out. Simple as that.

 

 

 

So, you've decided to ruin your life? I think that sums it up well.

 

 

 

Off topic a bit, but what the smeg is with these people saying, "Oh my God, I'm pro-life!" and all this rubbish. Well, what does that make the other people? Anti-life?! They're not going around stabbing you right now, are they?

Considering abortion is killing(whether it's legally murder or not), anti-life sums it up well.

 

 

 

If you're dumb enough to have sex, especially unprotected, abortion just seems like an immature, selfish way to get out of it. I personally couldn't care less what other teenagers choose, it's not my call to make. But I'm not getting into that before marriage.

 

 

 

If you're dumb enough to sit out in the sun without sunscreen and don't put sunblock on, and get skin cancer. Don't get it removed you should live with your mistake. You're a moron.

There is a huge difference between skin cancer and a HUMAN LIFE. Abortion is killing babies no matter how way you look at it. I don't see how you can justify it.

 

 

 

You're using very emotive terms to define what abortion is. I could do the very same thing - abortion is a life planning and life affirming strategy by disposing of an undeveloped cellular product. You can spin any old view with the semantics you choose to use.

 

 

 

Going off of that, would you class an act such as using the morning after pill or stem cell research to be 'baby killing'? If so, feel free to explain how a conglomeration of cells generally no more in number than 1000 (a conservative estimate) and with no definable features to be a baby.

 

 

 

It has the potential to be a baby. Abortion is the killing of something that is not an actual baby but eventually will become a baby.

 

 

 

The potential argument...

 

 

 

The billions of sperm and thousands of eggs wasted in a males/females life have the potential to become human life.

 

 

 

Every of the 50 trillion cells of your body has the potential to make one you. Pick two cells, somehow perform meiosis on both, go through sexual recombination, etc, and you could potentially form an entirely different human being.

 

 

 

Bits and pieces of random organisms genomes have the potential, via DNA enzymes and a little more manipulation, to become a human life.

 

 

 

Food has the potential to become a human life (you are literally what you eat). Properly select the right proportions of 85-ish kilograms of food and you've got the material potential for one adult male.

 

 

 

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How about these for abstract ideas - don't perform abortions and you could potentially be allowing axe murderers or rapists to live.

 

 

 

Don't allow a mother an abortion and she could have potentially been a cancer cure or multi-million dollar charity giver.

 

 

 

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Perhaps, if you'd like, give me an argument against abortion without adding potential.

 

 

 

=D>

 

 

 

I dont believe in abortion unless its in the most extreme circumstances as ive stated before.

 

 

 

But you are very good at getting your point across, i cant even rebut anything you said because frankly, its above me.

 

 

 

If i didnt have such strong beliefs in the matter, you would be the one to sway me sir :P

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You shouldn't let something above you sway your opinion. Appeal to authority becuase they use big words or whatever isn't the way to go. (By the way I'm not trying to sound like an authority on anything - that's just the thing, I'm not, some people may just hear what I'm saying and go with it because it sounds smart and uses big numbers or whatever. Always be sure to question.)

 

 

 

But yeah, that's fine if you have strong beliefs. I'm just here to provide a different view so we can all better judge our positions. It's a sign of being receptive to new ideas and to re-evaluating the worth of old ones if you're willing to hear other people out and consider what case they have to argue.

Nothing wrong with teens having sex.

 

 

 

But if you don't plan on getting pregnant, I suggest using a condom and birth control. I would even recommend '' pulling out '' with a condom, just to be safe. But enough about that, on to the subject.

 

 

 

Pregnancy is something both participants should be aware of. The chance of getting pregnant is always there, even with a condom. Birth control, eh - not so much. The only sure way of not getting pregnant is abstinence, or if either person happens to be sterile. Or tubes tied, or has had a bisectime - but I doubt any teen would have that done.

 

 

 

Point is, if you plan on having sex, just know the risks and what your getting yourself into. And, it would help if your partner was also educated. Don't just spread diseases kids, spread knowledge. \

If your mom was pro choice, maybe she shoulda made the right one with you dude.

 

 

 

If you cant come into a serious discussion and be mature about it, get out. Simple as that.

 

 

My argument was the same as warrior's - that [bleep] can also be a potential baby, yet we do not place so much value on it. I find it very ironic that someone who attacks people by saying that they should be aborted is calling me immature.

Im not quite sure I understand the point of this topic. You ask our opinions- do you expect someone to say that teen pregnancy is good?

This is better then a soap opera!(lol)

 

 

 

And I'm still standing pro-life and teen preg kind of screws up your life(in most cases).

 

 

 

And someone said to "pull out", I have no experience but I read somewhere you actually shouldn't do that for some reason and let the condom do its job.

 

 

 

Edit: The best way to avoid something is to not even start.

If your mom was pro choice, maybe she shoulda made the right one with you dude.

 

 

 

If you cant come into a serious discussion and be mature about it, get out. Simple as that.

 

 

My argument was the same as warrior's - that [bleep] can also be a potential baby, yet we do not place so much value on it. I find it very ironic that someone who attacks people by saying that they should be aborted is calling me immature.

 

 

 

But [bleep] isn't a baby. No matter how long youlet it sit there in that jar, it's not going to grow into a baby. However, a fertilized egg will. I honestly think under age sex is wrong just because the kids aren't prepared to be adults and carry the responsibility of a baby. (And it's just sad when you see to people fight over who takes care of the baby because they don't want it :? :cry: )

It shouldn't happen. But the most important thing is that we keep abortion a choice. We do not need to have more unwanted children in our foster homes, not being adopted, and then getting on the street and getting in gangs. Especially, when gays can't adopt, which would lower the rate by half. Plus, we don't need unwanted children when the world's population is 6 billion, it was 4 billion in 1970, and will be 9 billion in 2050 if countries like India and China and even the USA keep it up. And then we will run out of resources, we will have no more fossil fuels by 2020, or even sooner, and other resources will run low as well if we reach 9 billion people by 2050.

It shouldn't happen. But the most important thing is that we keep abortion a choice. We do not need to have more unwanted children in our foster homes, not being adopted, and then getting on the street and getting in gangs. Especially, when gays can't adopt, which would lower the rate by half. Plus, we don't need unwanted children when the world's population is 6 billion, it was 4 billion in 1970, and will be 9 billion in 2050 if countries like India and China and even the USA keep it up. And then we will run out of resources, we will have no more fossil fuels by 2020, or even sooner, and other resources will run low as well if we reach 9 billion people by 2050.

 

 

 

We need to stop it at the source. People should always use protection. If that happened, abortion wouldn't cross a persons mind. Most kids in gangs came from poor familys where they were most likely not wanted in the first place. Just using protection is the perfect solution. And there are plenty of fossil fuels left (They might be in Alaska or the Pacific but they're out there). Plus by 2020, there will probably be a better invention anyway.

It shouldn't happen. But the most important thing is that we keep abortion a choice. We do not need to have more unwanted children in our foster homes, not being adopted, and then getting on the street and getting in gangs. Especially, when gays can't adopt, which would lower the rate by half. Plus, we don't need unwanted children when the world's population is 6 billion, it was 4 billion in 1970, and will be 9 billion in 2050 if countries like India and China and even the USA keep it up. And then we will run out of resources, we will have no more fossil fuels by 2020, or even sooner, and other resources will run low as well if we reach 9 billion people by 2050.

 

 

 

We need to stop it at the source. People should always use protection. If that happened, abortion wouldn't cross a persons mind. Most kids in gangs came from poor familys where they were most likely not wanted in the first place. Just using protection is the perfect solution. And there are plenty of fossil fuels left (They might be in Alaska or the Pacific but they're out there). Plus by 2020, there will probably be a better invention anyway.

 

 

 

Those fossil fuels are close to impossible to mine, mining them would sky rocket gas prices because of the cost alone.

 

 

 

Protection doesn't always work. And we have another problem, those in third world countries such as India and China don't know about protection, they don''t use it. And the governments don't give a crap about it, and America can't be the world police. It's a quagmire no matter how you look at it, so let's keep our options open. The last thing we need to do is eliminate our exits.

If your mom was pro choice, maybe she shoulda made the right one with you dude.

 

 

 

If you cant come into a serious discussion and be mature about it, get out. Simple as that.

 

 

My argument was the same as warrior's - that [bleep] can also be a potential baby, yet we do not place so much value on it. I find it very ironic that someone who attacks people by saying that they should be aborted is calling me immature.

 

 

 

But [bleep] isn't a baby. No matter how long youlet it sit there in that jar, it's not going to grow into a baby. However, a fertilized egg will.

 

A fertilized egg isn't going to become a baby either if you put it in a jar.

If your mom was pro choice, maybe she shoulda made the right one with you dude.

 

 

 

If you cant come into a serious discussion and be mature about it, get out. Simple as that.

 

 

My argument was the same as warrior's - that [bleep] can also be a potential baby, yet we do not place so much value on it. I find it very ironic that someone who attacks people by saying that they should be aborted is calling me immature.

 

 

 

But [bleep] isn't a baby. No matter how long youlet it sit there in that jar, it's not going to grow into a baby. However, a fertilized egg will.

 

A fertilized egg isn't going to become a baby either if you put it in a jar.

 

 

 

Your missing the point. [bleep] does have the potential to be a baby but it's not. However, a fertilized egg is guaranteed to grow and become a human-being.

If your mom was pro choice, maybe she shoulda made the right one with you dude.

 

 

 

If you cant come into a serious discussion and be mature about it, get out. Simple as that.

 

 

My argument was the same as warrior's - that [bleep] can also be a potential baby, yet we do not place so much value on it. I find it very ironic that someone who attacks people by saying that they should be aborted is calling me immature.

 

 

 

But [bleep] isn't a baby. No matter how long youlet it sit there in that jar, it's not going to grow into a baby. However, a fertilized egg will.

 

A fertilized egg isn't going to become a baby either if you put it in a jar.

 

 

 

Your missing the point. [bleep] does have the potential to be a baby but it's not. However, a fertilized egg is guaranteed to grow and become a human-being.

 

[bleep] is guaranteed to grow and become a human-being if I put it in a vagina.

[bleep] is guaranteed to grow and become a human-being if I put it in a vagina.

 

 

 

No it's not. The vagina has tons of protection that tries to kill the sperm.

 

 

 

Both of you need to explain infertile people.

^^^learn that in 4th grade....i wonder if you were to inject a girl with horse spirmm.. what would happen :-X :-k

It shouldn't happen. But the most important thing is that we keep abortion a choice. We do not need to have more unwanted children in our foster homes, not being adopted, and then getting on the street and getting in gangs. Especially, when gays can't adopt, which would lower the rate by half. Plus, we don't need unwanted children when the world's population is 6 billion, it was 4 billion in 1970, and will be 9 billion in 2050 if countries like India and China and even the USA keep it up. And then we will run out of resources, we will have no more fossil fuels by 2020, or even sooner, and other resources will run low as well if we reach 9 billion people by 2050.

 

 

 

We need to stop it at the source. People should always use protection. If that happened, abortion wouldn't cross a persons mind. Most kids in gangs came from poor familys where they were most likely not wanted in the first place. Just using protection is the perfect solution. And there are plenty of fossil fuels left (They might be in Alaska or the Pacific but they're out there). Plus by 2020, there will probably be a better invention anyway.

 

 

 

I agree with kenshinjapan. Plus I was watching a program about how since they have started using fossil fuels people have said they are going to run out, but the fact is thats very improbable. Some areas its mixed into the ground and thats not an easy accessable or very profitable method of getting oil but there is still oil and in frozen regions to the north there is much to still be found. And techinally even if we were to use 100% of the fossil fuels, which I doubt, more would eventually be created.

 

 

 

And even if we run out of these fuels we will find a new, easily found or generated one.

[bleep] is guaranteed to grow and become a human-being if I put it in a vagina.

 

 

 

No it's not. The vagina has tons of protection that tries to kill the sperm.

 

and there are also things that can destroy the fertilized egg.

[bleep] is guaranteed to grow and become a human-being if I put it in a vagina.

 

 

 

No it's not. The vagina has tons of protection that tries to kill the sperm.

 

and there are also things that can destroy the fertilized egg.

 

 

 

Ok first off, lets stop using the word "[bleep]" and use the actual word, sperm. Everyone knows that there are millions of sperm so it is still very likely to impregnate a woman; but not 100%. And true, there are also things that can destroy the egg....but....errr...Gah!!! So many factors! :lol:

 

 

 

EDIT: There is too many factors for impregnation for us to discuss unless we're all specialised in the field :lol: .

Gah!!! So many factors! :lol:

 

 

 

Thank God I never have to deal with it! Woot! :D

So, you've decided to ruin your life? I think that sums it up well.

 

 

 

Off topic a bit, but what the smeg is with these people saying, "Oh my God, I'm pro-life!" and all this rubbish. Well, what does that make the other people? Anti-life?! They're not going around stabbing you right now, are they?

Considering abortion is killing(whether it's legally murder or not), anti-life sums it up well.

 

 

 

If you're dumb enough to have sex, especially unprotected, abortion just seems like an immature, selfish way to get out of it. I personally couldn't care less what other teenagers choose, it's not my call to make. But I'm not getting into that before marriage.

 

Righhhht hang on. Abortion isn't just an "immature" way to get out of it. That is truly ignorant saying that. Mistakes happen and no form of contraception is 100% effective. My cousin got an abortion because she and her husband realised the could not support it and that is their decision.

 

I'm really getting sick of all these pro-life campaigners,most of which are male or have never even considered having a baby,handing out bundles of leaflets on the street.

So, you've decided to ruin your life? I think that sums it up well.

 

 

 

Off topic a bit, but what the smeg is with these people saying, "Oh my God, I'm pro-life!" and all this rubbish. Well, what does that make the other people? Anti-life?! They're not going around stabbing you right now, are they?

Considering abortion is killing(whether it's legally murder or not), anti-life sums it up well.

 

 

 

If you're dumb enough to have sex, especially unprotected, abortion just seems like an immature, selfish way to get out of it. I personally couldn't care less what other teenagers choose, it's not my call to make. But I'm not getting into that before marriage.

 

Righhhht hang on. Abortion isn't just an "immature" way to get out of it. That is truly ignorant saying that. Mistakes happen and no form of contraception is 100% effective. My cousin got an abortion because she and her husband realised the could not support it and that is their decision.

 

I'm really getting sick of all these pro-life campaigners,most of which are male or have never even considered having a baby,handing out bundles of leaflets on the street.

 

And don't forget rape vitims. I don't think they like being forced into prengancy, the hassles and pains of it. The kid would grow up knowing his mother wasn't ready for him and his father's a rapist.

If it was so damn easy I wouldn't have been trying for the past 4 months lol

And don't forget rape vitims. I don't think they like being forced into prengancy, the hassles and pains of it. The kid would grow up knowing his mother wasn't ready for him and his father's a rapist.

 

Very good point.

this doesnt apply for all cases but most teen pregnancies are this:

 

chavette goes to a club

 

chavette gets drunk

 

chavette gets with about 5 different chavs

 

chav ditches the chavette

 

chavette has the baby, then scrounges off the council for the rest of her life while the baby's life is a misery

 

when the baby grows up, they get into lots of trouble and stuff due to the mum not caring or just not having enough time.

 

the process continues.

 

 

 

sometimes though its not the persons fault, condoms ARENT 100%, most people who are saying stuff like "its the persons fault for being too dumb" etc are obviously virgins and dont realise that most babies whos mums are teens when they have them end up not having a good quality of life due to the fact their mums are too busy to look after them, i hate the idea of people getting nonestop abortions due to carelessness but its for the good of both the mother and the baby in alot of times people have abortions.

Not flaming but i thought you left m4tty. :-k :-s