I can't carry around a jar of spermacide in my wallet. :( Lol.

 

You can, however, carry a little tube in your wallet.

 

 

 

You either have a very small tube, or a very large wallet. I know no tube will fit in my wallet.

Well I think it's a stupid choice.

 

 

 

Still, what's worse for the baby?

 

Being aborted.

 

Or.

 

Living in poverty with 1 parent who can't afford to raise you and doesn't really care about you.

 

 

 

Many non-teen parents have trouble affording to raise a baby, and the girl I know loves her baby, most do.

 

 

 

Most unplanned babies are loved by their parents, because afterall, it is a little peice of them.

I laugh at people that think condoms = godmode. You do know they break? Some people suck at putting them on, try put them on the wrong way, turn it over and still put it on? Little do they know theres little MiniMes all over the outside?

 

 

 

well its what u think is a lot of cash mine is worth around 210k to 250k if i was to sell but i paid like 135k for it

 

 

 

Big, man.

 

 

 

Big, sarcastic, man.

 

 

 

Government agencies pay for day-care, as long as the mom doesn't have a job, so when money is gone, its gone.

 

 

 

Governments are so dumb, we'll pay to have a daycare look after your child, as long as you stay home and do sweet FA. Wouldn't it be more benificial if it were offered IF they had some sort of a part time job or something?

 

 

 

So, you've decided to ruin your life? I think that sums it up well.

 

 

 

Off topic a bit, but what the smeg is with these people saying, "Oh my God, I'm pro-life!" and all this rubbish. Well, what does that make the other people? Anti-life?! They're not going around stabbing you right now, are they?

Considering abortion is killing(whether it's legally murder or not), anti-life sums it up well.

 

 

 

If you're dumb enough to have sex, especially unprotected, abortion just seems like an immature, selfish way to get out of it. I personally couldn't care less what other teenagers choose, it's not my call to make. But I'm not getting into that before marriage.

 

 

 

If you're dumb enough to sit out in the sun without sunscreen and don't put sunblock on, and get skin cancer. Don't get it removed you should live with your mistake. You're a moron.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ichimaru, clear your inbox or something, my reply has been sitting in my outbox for a long time, I really would like to continue our debate. :P

 

 

 

Did I misread the post, or did you just compare babies to skin cancer?

I can't carry around a jar of spermacide in my wallet. :( Lol.

 

You can, however, carry a little tube in your wallet.

 

 

 

What product exactly are you talking about that prevents man juice from escaping the chokehold of a condom?

 

 

 

Spermacide, does exactly what it says on the tin. Kills sperm.

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I laugh at people that think condoms = godmode. You do know they break? Some people suck at putting them on, try put them on the wrong way, turn it over and still put it on? Little do they know theres little MiniMes all over the outside?

 

 

 

well its what u think is a lot of cash mine is worth around 210k to 250k if i was to sell but i paid like 135k for it

 

 

 

Big, man.

 

 

 

Big, sarcastic, man.

 

 

 

Government agencies pay for day-care, as long as the mom doesn't have a job, so when money is gone, its gone.

 

 

 

Governments are so dumb, we'll pay to have a daycare look after your child, as long as you stay home and do sweet FA. Wouldn't it be more benificial if it were offered IF they had some sort of a part time job or something?

 

 

 

So, you've decided to ruin your life? I think that sums it up well.

 

 

 

Off topic a bit, but what the smeg is with these people saying, "Oh my God, I'm pro-life!" and all this rubbish. Well, what does that make the other people? Anti-life?! They're not going around stabbing you right now, are they?

Considering abortion is killing(whether it's legally murder or not), anti-life sums it up well.

 

 

 

If you're dumb enough to have sex, especially unprotected, abortion just seems like an immature, selfish way to get out of it. I personally couldn't care less what other teenagers choose, it's not my call to make. But I'm not getting into that before marriage.

 

 

 

If you're dumb enough to sit out in the sun without sunscreen and don't put sunblock on, and get skin cancer. Don't get it removed you should live with your mistake. You're a moron.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ichimaru, clear your inbox or something, my reply has been sitting in my outbox for a long time, I really would like to continue our debate. :P

 

 

 

Did I misread the post, or did you just compare babies to skin cancer?

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He did, he did, dat mean ol putty tat called childwen skin cancer.

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If you're dumb enough to have sex, especially unprotected, abortion just seems like an immature, selfish way to get out of it. I personally couldn't care less what other teenagers choose, it's not my call to make. But I'm not getting into that before marriage.

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If you're dumb enough to sit out in the sun without sunscreen and don't put sunblock on, and get skin cancer. Don't get it removed you should live with your mistake. You're a moron.

 

 

 

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Did I misread the post, or did you just compare babies to skin cancer?

 

Babies: You have sex unprotected and then you get a baby.

 

Skin cancer: You go in the sun unprotected and get cancer.

 

 

 

The point he's trying to make is that why should the reversal of one foolish action be ethically allowed and not the other?

I can't carry around a jar of spermacide in my wallet. :( Lol.

 

You can, however, carry a little tube in your wallet.

 

 

 

You either have a very small tube, or a very large wallet. I know no tube will fit in my wallet.

 

Sorry, I just had a Lapsus Clavis. Thinking of some other kind of wallet, or something like that.

 

 

 

Now getting to the point: Instead of looking the morality of abortion, shouldn't we look for solutions to the problem? Are there any ways to avoid teens getting pregnant (exclude aspects that can be controlled, like rape)? Wouldn't, for instance, earlier, better Sex Education help?

I can't carry around a jar of spermacide in my wallet. :( Lol.

 

You can, however, carry a little tube in your wallet.

 

 

 

You either have a very small tube, or a very large wallet. I know no tube will fit in my wallet.

 

Sorry, I just had a Lapsus Clavis. Thinking of some other kind of wallet, or something like that.

 

 

 

Now getting to the point: Instead of looking the morality of abortion, shouldn't we look for solutions to the problem? Are there any ways to avoid teens getting pregnant (exclude aspects that can be controlled, like rape)? Wouldn't, for instance, earlier, better Sex Education help?

 

 

 

Sex education here is pretty much this:

 

 

 

If you're under 18 and have sex...

 

Condoms won't work.

 

The pill won't work.

 

You will get STDs.

 

You will get pregnant.

 

 

 

If you're 18+ and have sex...

 

Condoms will work.

 

The pill will work.

 

Legal sex doesn't pass on STDs.

 

 

 

 

 

How else can you scare a 5th grader if that doesn't work?

Its bad for the mother's body, if they are under 18 (I believe in most countries) its illegal, they won't be finacial supported properly, it throws away life because they had so many more things to do and I am strongly agaisnt abortion.

If they raised the kid and try to be together that's good. But giving it away or aborting is something i'd never do if I knocked someone up.

I dont belive abortion should be a choice in teen pregnancy, they made a mistake they should have to deal with it, the baby didnt do anything wrong why should it be denied the right to live because mommy decided to slum around in highschool?

 

 

 

if your not amture enough to raise a child, put it up for a doption so someone who is mature enough to raise it, will.

 

 

 

the people who are saying abortion are usually the same people who are aggainst the death penalty, it makes no sense, they will let a mass murderer live, but not an innocent baby.

I dont belive abortion should be a choice in teen pregnancy, they made a mistake they should have to deal with it, the baby didnt do anything wrong why should it be denied the right to live because mommy decided to slum around in highschool?

 

 

 

if your not amture enough to raise a child, put it up for a doption so someone who is mature enough to raise it, will.

 

 

 

the people who are saying abortion are usually the same people who are aggainst the death penalty, it makes no sense, they will let a mass murderer live, but not an innocent baby.

 

 

 

I agree, but people will get mad with you for saying that. :-#

I dont belive abortion should be a choice in teen pregnancy, they made a mistake they should have to deal with it, the baby didnt do anything wrong why should it be denied the right to live because mommy decided to slum around in highschool?

 

 

 

if your not amture enough to raise a child, put it up for a doption so someone who is mature enough to raise it, will.

 

 

 

the people who are saying abortion are usually the same people who are aggainst the death penalty, it makes no sense, they will let a mass murderer live, but not an innocent baby.

 

 

 

I agree, but people will get mad with you for saying that. :-#

 

 

 

lol then let them, i will gladly debate the issue with someone who has the mental capacity to have a decent argument about it.

 

 

 

If people wanna flame me for my belief on the subject, let them make a fool of themselves lol

I don't believe there should be abortion unless it's rape.

 

 

 

But mind you I personally know people who have had abortions because they didn't want a kid and I just kept my mouth shut.

 

 

 

My opinion or not, I still respect people making choices and certainly won't get in the way if they want to make that decision.

 

 

 

Nor will I shove my opinion down their throat.

 

 

 

lol then let them, i will gladly debate the issue with someone who has the mantal capacity to have a decent argument about it.

 

 

 

Better change mantal to mental before you can have a decent argument :P

I would respect their decision and not shove my own thoughts down their throats, but I would still consider them a murderer no matter the case in my mind.

I don't believe there should be abortion unless it's rape.

 

 

 

But mind you I personally know people who have had abortions because they didn't want a kid and I just kept my mouth shut.

 

 

 

My opinion or not, I still respect people making choices and certainly won't get in the way if they want to make that decision.

 

 

 

Nor will I shove my opinion down their throat.

 

 

 

lol then let them, i will gladly debate the issue with someone who has the mantal capacity to have a decent argument about it.

 

 

 

Better change mantal to mental before you can have a decent argument :P

 

 

 

lol my bad :P

I dont belive abortion should be a choice in teen pregnancy, they made a mistake they should have to deal with it, the baby didnt do anything wrong why should it be denied the right to live because mommy decided to slum around in highschool?

 

 

 

if your not amture enough to raise a child, put it up for a doption so someone who is mature enough to raise it, will.

 

 

 

the people who are saying abortion are usually the same people who are aggainst the death penalty, it makes no sense, they will let a mass murderer live, but not an innocent baby.

 

 

 

I agree, but people will get mad with you for saying that. :-#

 

 

 

lol then let them, i will gladly debate the issue with someone who has the mantal capacity to have a decent argument about it.

 

 

 

If people wanna flame me for my belief on the subject, let them make a fool of themselves lol

 

 

 

I shall be that fool!

 

 

 

Abortion isn't taking out a baby and slitting it's throat, its done ussually at the first signs of pregnancy, not at birth. Your belief strictly relies on your opinion that abortion is killing a life.

 

 

 

Putting up a baby for adoption is a horrible thing to do if you could of aborted, we already have way to many unadopted children, and people tend to adopt more often from less developed countries or China anyways.

 

 

 

And if you weren't aware more people than mass murderers get the death penalty, several have been proven innocent after death. The cost to have an execution is nearly the same as life in jail, which seems to be a better punishment in my eyes.

 

 

 

Anyways, let's not turn this into a debate about abortion or the death penalty, let this be the last post on the topic.

I dont belive abortion should be a choice in teen pregnancy, they made a mistake they should have to deal with it, the baby didnt do anything wrong why should it be denied the right to live because mommy decided to slum around in highschool?

 

 

 

if your not amture enough to raise a child, put it up for a doption so someone who is mature enough to raise it, will.

 

 

 

the people who are saying abortion are usually the same people who are aggainst the death penalty, it makes no sense, they will let a mass murderer live, but not an innocent baby.

 

 

 

I agree, but people will get mad with you for saying that. :-#

 

 

 

lol then let them, i will gladly debate the issue with someone who has the mantal capacity to have a decent argument about it.

 

 

 

If people wanna flame me for my belief on the subject, let them make a fool of themselves lol

 

 

 

I shall be that fool!

 

 

 

Abortion isn't taking out a baby and slitting it's throat, its done ussually at the first signs of pregnancy, not at birth. Your belief strictly relies on your opinion that abortion is killing a life.

 

 

 

Putting up a baby for adoption is a horrible thing to do if you could of aborted, we already have way to many unadopted children, and people tend to adopt more often from less developed countries or China anyways.

 

 

 

And if you weren't aware more people than mass murderers get the death penalty, several have been proven innocent after death. The cost to have an execution is nearly the same as life in jail, which seems to be a better punishment in my eyes.

 

 

 

Anyways, let's not turn this into a debate about abortion or the death penalty, let this be the last post on the topic.

 

 

 

 

 

Why should someone who has made a mistake like that be able to get off so easy?

 

 

 

I dont see why a baby, even an undeveloped one, should have to pay the price of being aborted because the mother doesnt want to put it up for adoption.

 

 

 

What is stopping that baby from having the potential to cure many diseases in this world one day.

 

 

 

At least if he is put up for adoption he has a chance for a future, i dont see why he should be denied that just because he is undeveloped and the mother doesnt want him.

 

 

 

How would you feel if your parents told you they wanted to abort you because they werent ready for a child yet?

Why should someone who has made a mistake like that be able to get off so easy?

 

 

 

I dont see why a baby, even an undeveloped one, should have to pay the price of being aborted because the mother doesnt want to put it up for adoption.

 

 

 

What is stopping that baby from having the potential to cure many diseases in this world one day.

 

 

 

At least if he is put up for adoption he has a chance for a future, i dont see why he should be denied that just because he is undeveloped and the mother doesnt want him.

 

 

 

How would you feel if your parents told you they wanted to abort you because they werent ready for a child yet?

 

=D> =D> =D> =D>

Why should someone who has made a mistake like that be able to get off so easy?

 

 

 

I dont see why a baby, even an undeveloped one, should have to pay the price of being aborted because the mother doesnt want to put it up for adoption.

 

 

 

What is stopping that baby from having the potential to cure many diseases in this world one day.

 

 

 

At least if he is put up for adoption he has a chance for a future, i dont see why he should be denied that just because he is undeveloped and the mother doesnt want him.

 

 

 

How would you feel if your parents told you they wanted to abort you because they werent ready for a child yet?

 

=D> =D> =D> =D>

 

 

 

While I agree whole heartedly this is where the thread goes downhill.

Why should someone who has made a mistake like that be able to get off so easy?

 

 

 

I dont see why a baby, even an undeveloped one, should have to pay the price of being aborted because the mother doesnt want to put it up for adoption.

 

 

 

What is stopping that baby from having the potential to cure many diseases in this world one day.

 

 

 

At least if he is put up for adoption he has a chance for a future, i dont see why he should be denied that just because he is undeveloped and the mother doesnt want him.

 

 

 

How would you feel if your parents told you they wanted to abort you because they werent ready for a child yet?

 

=D> =D> =D> =D>

 

 

 

While I agree whole heartedly this is where the thread goes downhill.

 

 

 

Goes downhill? This topic is to discuss our thoughts on teen pregnancy, and thats that I did.

 

 

 

I dont see why it wopuld go downhill because someone did what the topic asked

Why should someone who has made a mistake like that be able to get off so easy?

 

 

 

I dont see why a baby, even an undeveloped one, should have to pay the price of being aborted because the mother doesnt want to put it up for adoption.

 

 

 

What is stopping that baby from having the potential to cure many diseases in this world one day.

 

 

 

At least if he is put up for adoption he has a chance for a future, i dont see why he should be denied that just because he is undeveloped and the mother doesnt want him.

 

 

 

How would you feel if your parents told you they wanted to abort you because they werent ready for a child yet?

 

=D> =D> =D> =D>

 

 

 

While I agree whole heartedly this is where the thread goes downhill.

 

 

 

Goes downhill? This topic is to discuss our thoughts on teen pregnancy, and thats that I did.

 

 

 

I dont see why it wopuld go downhill because someone did what the topic asked

 

 

 

My parent's weren't ready for me, they were only 20 and 21, if they could of an abortion would of been alot better for them, because they had to move to America to get better jobs and a steady income , even though my mom was on her way to being a doctor and my dad was doing fine selling his paintings and teaching at an art school.

 

 

 

Though if I was aborted, I wouldn't care, seeing as I wouldn't know, and I wouldn't be here. Though its pretty tough to imagine yourself not being born, but thats alright with me.

 

 

 

EDIT: To rebut your statement what if the baby could of been a doctor, my mom could of been a doctor that found a cure for a cancer to if it wasn't for me. (In America most foriegn documents of education don't count as qualification)

I dont belive abortion should be a choice in teen pregnancy, they made a mistake they should have to deal with it, the baby didnt do anything wrong why should it be denied the right to live because mommy decided to slum around in highschool?

 

 

 

if your not amture enough to raise a child, put it up for a doption so someone who is mature enough to raise it, will.

 

 

 

the people who are saying abortion are usually the same people who are aggainst the death penalty, it makes no sense, they will let a mass murderer live, but not an innocent baby.

 

 

 

The roughly 200 million plus sperm males ejaculate every orgasm didn't do anything wrong, why should they be denied the right to an egg for fertilization because someone choses to pleasure themselves?

"Erm... John... Ever heard of a condom?"

 

 

 

Ugh! Condom next time.

I dont belive abortion should be a choice in teen pregnancy, they made a mistake they should have to deal with it, the baby didnt do anything wrong why should it be denied the right to live because mommy decided to slum around in highschool?

 

 

 

if your not amture enough to raise a child, put it up for a doption so someone who is mature enough to raise it, will.

 

 

 

the people who are saying abortion are usually the same people who are aggainst the death penalty, it makes no sense, they will let a mass murderer live, but not an innocent baby.

 

 

 

The roughly 200 million plus sperm males ejaculate every orgasm didn't do anything wrong, why should they be denied the right to an egg for fertilization because someone choses to pleasure themselves?

 

 

 

did you seriously just make that comparison?

 

 

 

a sperm alone cant become a fetus, rubbing one out is not the same as an abortion.