Achilleus Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Russia tests giant fuel-air bomb Russia's main TV channels carried reports on the test Launch and aftermath The Russian air force has tested a giant fuel-air bomb which the military says is the biggest non-nuclear explosive device in the world. Russian TV showed a Tupolev bomber dropping the bomb over a test range, a powerful explosion and a four-storey building reduced to rubble. Claims it is bigger than the Moab, a US device of similar destructive power, seem plausible, analysts say. Such bombs are mainly designed to destroy underground targets. The Russians have a long and proven history of developing weapons in the thermobaric class Robert Hewson editor of Jane's Air-launched Weapons Fuel-air bombs, technically known as thermobaric devices, generally detonate in two stages: a small blast creates a cloud of explosive material, which is then ignited with devastating effect. The name Moab officially stands for Massive Ordnance Air Burst but has unofficially been interpreted as Mother Of All Bombs. The Russian bomb, which has no known official name, has been dubbed Father of All Bombs by its designers, Russia's Channel One News says in its report. It contains about seven tons of high explosives compared with more than eight for the Moab but is four times more powerful because it uses a new type of explosives developed with the use of nanotechnology, according to the channel. "Test results of the new airborne weapon have shown that its efficiency and power is commensurate with a nuclear weapon," Gen Alexander Rukshin, Russian deputy armed forces chief of staff, told the channel. It has, he says, "no match in the world". Psychological value Robert Hewson, editor of Jane's Air-launched Weapons, believes that the Russian claims are plausible given the country's track record in developing, and using, fuel-air devices. It is believed the bomb has not been used in action "I think the likelihood is that this is the world's biggest non-nuclear bomb," he told the BBC News website. "You can argue about the numbers and how you scale this but the Russians have a long and proven history of developing weapons in the thermobaric class." Russia used such weapons in Afghanistan and Chechnya, Hewson says, and he suspects that the bomb shown on TV was conceived for the Chechen conflict but never actually used because of the sheer scale of the destruction it could wreak. He believes that the test blast was a "statement" by Russia comparable in its psychological effect to America's demonstration of the Moab just before the 2003 invasion of Iraq - a demonstration never followed up by its actual use. "The Russians are in a phase of needing to make statements at the moment and have done the same thing," Hewson says. The giant bomb was transported by a Tu-160 "Blackjack" supersonic bomber, itself in the news recently when Russia revived the Soviet practice of sending heavy bombers out on long-range flights. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6990815.stm Yep To be honest im not liking Russia's actions at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrOwez Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Why not? Every country is trying to protect itself in the best way possible. EDIT: I'm guessing if this was the USA you'd be like 'OMG We're so powerful!!! yay we own all' A friend to all is a friend to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupportMage Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 :shock: That's............bad. Very, very, VERY bad. I honestly don't trust Russia with that firepower, even if they are our allies. Still alive, still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilleus Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 :shock: That's............bad. Very, very, VERY bad. I honestly don't trust Russia with that firepower, even if they are our allies. Not for long, Trust me lol ..I'll give it another year even if that putin [puncture] term is ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperClipsYaaaar Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm more worried about what's happening to Russia's human rights, especially the right to free speech, than their weapons testing because I don't think they would be stupid enough to try to invade other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Russia are a naturally defensive country, they would only attack if attacked by someone else. Theres nothing to worry about, their just flexing their muscles and good to see, do not want anyone thinking that they can take on Russia. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Don't be scared, we just like blowing things up. It's the Russian way of life. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I don't understand how its Moab's are designed to kill underground targets? Based on its design, it explodes just a few feetbefore impact, releasing huges amounts of energy, where as a bomb that denotaes apon impact, most of its explosive energy is negated from the ground. I can understand surface targets getting completely obliterated.. but underground targets? While I can that I don't think its right for us to be the only ones with technology and advanced weaponary, but usually being out numbered by other Nations and them giving weapons to terrorists.. makes me want us to always stay and hopefully surpass to cutting technology that one day Russia or China will be a Regular Power than a Super Power, for our own protection, of course. It looks like China and Russia are gearing up for a all out assault on USA, and all they need is a good excuse. ~Defender~ If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamerr Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 And I don't like the fact that Amerika has so many nuclear bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 And I don't like the fact that Amerika has so many nuclear bombs. I'm glad we do, it keeps us safe. And you should not be worried about the quanity of nuclear missles a nation has, rather you should be worried about a nation who gets ahold of a nuke and uses it without hesitation. I heard that russia has around 100 backpack size nukes missing from its inventory, however, thats just a rumor, I do not know if its true. ~Defender~ If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperClipsYaaaar Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I heard that russia has around 100 backpack size nukes missing from its inventory, however, thats just a rumor, I do not know if its true. Thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 How is this "the other side" of Russia exactly? Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 How is this "the other side" of Russia exactly? Russia orders sex for babies. Russia nukes babies for target pratice. :?: If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I thought that was something similar to what the Americans in 'Nam. Not Russia. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapeloser22 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Whoa, that video was sweet. Let's not get the Russians mad now, ok? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_man_army Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm sure I read somewhere that America was testing thermobarics for use in Afghanistan. I remember it because it reminded the Afghans of the Russians, who used thermobarics against them in the 80's. I don't see why Russia can't use them if America (and possibly Britain if I remember correctly) are able to have them Edit - Here you go America used them in Afghanistan... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1854371.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1850219.stm Hypocracy ftl.... He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Russia shares a border with China. China has a big military. Russia is just showing they have big bombs as a deterrent. China hasn't shown any interest in invading, but they just want to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapeloser22 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm sure I read somewhere that America was testing thermobarics for use in Afghanistan. I remember it because it reminded the Afghans of the Russians, who used thermobarics against them in the 80's. I don't see why Russia can't use them if America (and possibly Britain if I remember correctly) are able to have them Edit - Here you go America used them in Afghanistan... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1854371.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1850219.stm Hypocracy ftl.... How is that "hypocracy" (is that even a word? I assume your saying Americans are hypocrites). Where in the article does it say that the Americans think Russians shouldn't be to use these/are complaining? Maybe some people on the thread, but that isn't the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrOwez Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm sure I read somewhere that America was testing thermobarics for use in Afghanistan. I remember it because it reminded the Afghans of the Russians, who used thermobarics against them in the 80's. I don't see why Russia can't use them if America (and possibly Britain if I remember correctly) are able to have them Edit - Here you go America used them in Afghanistan... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1854371.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1850219.stm Hypocracy ftl.... How is that "hypocracy" (is that even a word? I assume your saying Americans are hypocrites). Where in the article does it say that the Americans think Russians shouldn't be to use these/are complaining? Maybe some people on the thread, but that isn't the same.He is saying that people like Defender think it's okay and right for America to have these weapons whilst wrong for other countries. A friend to all is a friend to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Roach Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Russia are a naturally defensive country, they would only attack if attacked by someone else. :-w -_- Theres nothing to worry about wel we're pretty concerned to tell u the truth Doctor of Dental Surgery-2014Medical Doctor-2018?Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon-2024? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_man_army Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I just find it hypocritical that people are making a big deal about Russia testing these weapons (thermobaric weapons) without condemning their own nations for owning and actively using these weapons in battle. By the way, hypocracy is indeed a word, I'd use a smaller word for you but I couldn't think of a word in the English language with the same meaning that would be as small as your intellect :wink: . He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I just find it hypocritical that people are making a big deal about Russia testing these weapons without condemning their own nations for owning and actively using these weapons in battle. America doesn't use nuclear weapons in Iraq... If we did it would've defeated the point [as little of a point there is] for being there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_man_army Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm talking about thermobaric weapons in Afghanistan. He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm talking about thermobaric weapons in Afghanistan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire [Thermobaric AGM] Scroll down the page to a list of countries that currently use them, don't single out America... "The US is already deploying such weapons from the BLU-118 ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬Åcave busterÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâà Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelem_ryu Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 ..., their just flexing their muscles.. I see it the same way. :shock: That's............bad. Very, very, VERY bad. I honestly don't trust Russia with that firepower, even if they are our allies. I trust Russia about as much as the US. Hm.. on second thought i trust the US less. They have pretty aggressive foreigne politics and lable completely harmless countries like Iran "the evil". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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