The general theory behind challenge scroll drops

[Peronix]

 

 

 

Oh, well I know they said "rarer than a champion scroll from an imp" about something, I just can't quite remember what. Maybe chain from a dustdevil? Doesn't really matter actually.

 

 

 

I'm not positive, but it could've been the rarity of getting a dragon chain from cashing in barbarian assault points (too lazy to look it up, but i remember Jagex saying that also).

 

 

 

 

That was my first guess actually. I looked it up and that says something like "As likely as Zamorak suddenly deciding to give up his evil ways". Doesn't matter, I just thought that was funny.

 

 

 

My point is though, Jagex DID say that about something, and that would seem to imply that champion scrolls are simply a very rare drop.

 

 

 

And then you can get multiples of the scrolls, also, so that disproves this theory right there.

[JimmyMcNabb]

if its not rare then why would you have to kill thousands of monsters to prove it? hmm?

 

 

 

sorry, you haven't convinced me, I still think its an uber rare drop.

 

 

 

so much lulz @ you.

 

 

 

You didn't even read the post, did you?

 

 

 

You obviously didn't read mine did you... read the first bit of mine and read his post and you'll see what I mean.

[l337ubernoob]

The fact that Smapla has received 6 skeleton scrolls means your theory, or whoever thought of it, is wrong.

 

 

 

I myself have also had 3 skeleton scrolls from training endless hours on the ones at the yanille agility dungeon. Of course I have thrown them away ages ago after finding out you canÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâôt challenge the champion more then once, meaning I have no proof. Anyway, I know what Ive seen and I dont see a reason to lie about it anyway, but you can believe any theory you like if it helps you to keep going for the completion of this ridiculous ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâôminigameÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâô :P

[thestig0]

Great theory, I might try the challenge iff I wasn't so busy.

[Vincent]

from the Behind the Scenes December 2006.

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think it's possible the drop rates for champion scrolls do have a special drop rate but i dont think jagex would make it impossible to get a scroll from any of them.

 

 

 

more likely there's changeable drop rates, once you've completed or obtained a scroll, for the other scrolls. possibly the rates change based on what is more likely to drop a scroll. like an imp may be 1 in 5000 (numbers used to describe) and it would drop to 1 in 2500 once a goul scroll is obtained. when a lesser scroll is obtained it goes up to 1 in 10000. or some form of variable changing rates.

 

 

 

bottom line is they're rare drops and they do drop eventually when people continue to kill the monsters that drop them.

[mr_invisable]

Ive tried before to get a scroll from an imp, the one time im killing them just for fun i get the scroll.

 

I probably killed around 70.

 

 

 

Id be willing to try your theory out when i get time. :P

[maddudy]

that theory makes a lot of sence hmmm i should try it

[gunshafted]

 

i have done genuine research on this and i know it

 

is correct, please do not dismiss this

 

 

 

then

 

 

 

 

and its quite hard to get hard numbers on this considering i already have most of them and i'm too impatient to sit and kill thousands of monsters just to prove a point, sorry.

 

 

 

I'm not sure if I read this right, but it looks fishy to me.

 

His downfall, but I do like his theory as a possbility though.

 

 

 

*sigh*

 

 

 

my PROOF, far be it for me to define a word is thus:

 

 

 

i was a big slayer fan ages ago and killed everything from skeletons to jogres, however i never got a lesser demon task. i must have killed a tleast 500 of each monster, but the first lesser demon task i got yielded a scroll. that seemed fishy, so i thought id attempt the minigame and kill some hill giants, after 600 or so hill giants i didn't get a scroll, however, killing a skeleton on the way to vanakka got me a skeleton scroll. as you can see Ive done RESEARCH, but i don't have HARD NUMBERS, there is a difference.

[happybappy]

I asked Jagex and got the speech about how drops are random.

[warren211]

I remember hearing about a guy who met a lvl 8 who killed a random imp and got a champ scroll... ever since then i kill whatever imp i see. no luck yet =(

[DarkDude]

 

i have done genuine research on this and i know it

 

is correct, please do not dismiss this

 

 

 

then

 

 

 

 

and its quite hard to get hard numbers on this considering i already have most of them and i'm too impatient to sit and kill thousands of monsters just to prove a point, sorry.

 

 

 

I'm not sure if I read this right, but it looks fishy to me.

 

His downfall, but I do like his theory as a possbility though.

 

 

 

*sigh*

 

 

 

my PROOF, far be it for me to define a word is thus:

 

 

 

i was a big slayer fan ages ago and killed everything from skeletons to jogres, however i never got a lesser demon task. i must have killed a tleast 500 of each monster, but the first lesser demon task i got yielded a scroll. that seemed fishy, so i thought id attempt the minigame and kill some hill giants, after 600 or so hill giants i didn't get a scroll, however, killing a skeleton on the way to vanakka got me a skeleton scroll. as you can see Ive done RESEARCH, but i don't have HARD NUMBERS, there is a difference.

 

 

 

What about people who killed THOUSANDS of monsters then got a scroll? That pretty much means you're wrong.

 

 

 

Oh and there's the fact that Jagex have said that the theory IS NOT true.

[aoe325]

okay, there are far too many topics being started (in tip.it and outside) regarding challenge scroll drops. They have become a completely forgotten minigame because of the "rarity" of the scrolls.

 

 

 

There is only one point i want to make with this thread. It is one i have known well for a long time and yet noone else seems to believe or understand

 

 

 

CHALLENGE SCROLLS ARE NOT RARE!

 

 

 

you ever noticed how people always say "i tried for a scroll at "n" for days and days then hilled 20 "b" and got one just like that!". Seriously, EVERYBODY says this. This isn't ridiculous luck.

 

 

 

There are, what, 10 or so different monsters you can get challenge scrolls from, the theory is this:

 

All players have a chance of getting a scroll drop from 1 of these 10 monsters, and no chance of one from the other monsters until the champion that they can receive is killed. At this time, the randomizer will start again and the player has a chance of getting a scroll drop from 1 of the 9 remaining monsters and no chance of one from the others.

 

 

 

You may dismiss this theory as utter cowpats if you like, i mean sure, why would jagex not tell us this?

 

if you genuinely want challenge scrolls, here is what i propose you do:

 

 

 

- kill 100 of one of the champion monsters

 

- if no scroll has dropped by then, move on to the next monster that drops a scroll

 

- kill 100 of these new monsters, if no challenge, try a new monster

 

 

 

 

 

keep going in this pattern and i can almost guarantee you a challenge scroll (unless you are horribly unlucky)

 

i have done genuine research on this and i know it is correct, please do not dismiss this

 

 

 

 

 

and u ex[ect a java script to do all this!?

 

 

 

BAHAHAHAHA

 

 

 

No he expects Runescript, the programming language of Runescape, the most advanced Java application in the world to do it. And Java is NOT Javascript

[Sy_Accursed]

Hum

 

 

 

I am not so sure over this theory.

 

 

 

I have killed ATLEAST 200 of each champion monsters since this update and got 0 champion scrolls.

 

 

 

So they seem to be all equally possible

[Runeman231]

Didn't Jagex once say something about third age being "rarer than a champion scroll from an imp"? Implying that the scrolls are, in fact, uber-rare drops?

 

 

 

"Rarer than a left half from a skeleton"

 

 

 

Oh, well I know they said "rarer than a champion scroll from an imp" about something, I just can't quite remember what. Maybe chain from a dustdevil? Doesn't really matter actually.

 

 

 

they said getting a champions scroll was rarer than a left half from a skeleton, and a piece of 3rd age was rarer than and imp challenge scroll.

 

 

 

OT: Your theory has been disproved by many here.

[Myweponsg00d]

*sigh*

 

 

 

my PROOF, far be it for me to define a word is thus:

 

 

 

i was a big slayer fan ages ago and killed everything from skeletons to jogres, however i never got a lesser demon task. i must have killed a tleast 500 of each monster, but the first lesser demon task i got yielded a scroll. that seemed fishy, so i thought id attempt the minigame and kill some hill giants, after 600 or so hill giants i didn't get a scroll, however, killing a skeleton on the way to vanakka got me a skeleton scroll. as you can see Ive done RESEARCH, but i don't have HARD NUMBERS, there is a difference.

 

You call this "research", but we call this "dumb luck". I see now that's the only problem, a confusion of terms.

[Guest]

 

i have done genuine research on this and i know it

 

is correct, please do not dismiss this

 

 

 

then

 

 

 

 

and its quite hard to get hard numbers on this considering i already have most of them and i'm too impatient to sit and kill thousands of monsters just to prove a point, sorry.

 

 

 

I'm not sure if I read this right, but it looks fishy to me.

 

His downfall, but I do like his theory as a possbility though.

 

 

 

*sigh*

 

 

 

my PROOF, far be it for me to define a word is thus:

 

 

 

i was a big slayer fan ages ago and killed everything from skeletons to jogres, however i never got a lesser demon task. i must have killed a tleast 500 of each monster, but the first lesser demon task i got yielded a scroll. that seemed fishy, so i thought id attempt the minigame and kill some hill giants, after 600 or so hill giants i didn't get a scroll, however, killing a skeleton on the way to vanakka got me a skeleton scroll. as you can see Ive done RESEARCH, but i don't have HARD NUMBERS, there is a difference.

 

Im sorry but this isn't research it's dumb luck. There is no order to get scrolls, there is no rhyme or reason to get them. It's just like every other drop in runescape. It's random. Ive done nothing but champion scrolls for over a month now. I haven't went in any special order, or done anything but pick a monster at random and go fight it.

[calum12]

perhaps this is true, surprised i never thought of it. When i first went p2p, i did jungle potion quest and killed 3 jogres in the rogues purse dungeon. i got a challenge scroll, and ive never had one since.