Higher Level Magic Spells are ... wait ... Worse?

[00hydro]

I just recently read throughtout another boring look-through the runescape manual something that caught my attention. "The higher level spells are more likely to fail, but as your Magic level improves, you will cast spells more successful each time." - Runescape Manual, Skills, Magic, Basics.

 

Why is this! This is madness if you as me. It's saying that If i were to cast 10 Ice Barrages, and then 10 Ice Bursts, more bursts would hit. Another way to think about this is, you can avoid bloods altogether. What's the point of using fire wave if slayer darts (Which has only 1 less max hit) hits almost as well but more often?

 

I actually went around runescape asking totally random people over level 90 which spell is smarter to use, fire wave or slayer dart, for killing any monster, considering you had unlimited runes. 8 to 1 said that they'd use fire wave. Would you after you've read this?

[Mico]

Whell, if this is true, I' d rather use the slayer dart. But, since the game is so random, that may only be partally true.

[Alg]

was wondering about that...

 

at barrows, whenever i brought wind/water bolt instead of fire, it hit a lot more often...

 

 

 

must be their way of balancing the larger amount of damage, although like the slower-more powerful bit in weapons, people are going to take the weaker and accurate/faster ones.

 

 

 

once again, a bit of a mistake on their part, in my opinion.

[Owned_Nex]

LOl....

 

 

 

Ill explane it to you.

 

 

 

If your magic lvl is high, and you cast a low lvl spell, its easy. If you cast a higher lvl one that you recently could cast, then hell, you're going to fail them. Its like this. IF you were a hunter, a very experianed one, that has hunted for years, then hitting a large target like a Deer or horse is simple. But, you want a challenge, and you try hitting a rabbit. Sure, you have the capibility to do both, but shooting the rabbit is much harder since its a smaller target.

 

 

 

Understand?

 

 

 

 

 

And there is a point in Ice Barrage, it hold longer, and does mroe damage. also, if you did your experiment, you will definatly hit more wih Ice barrage. Sure, you'll fail 1 or 2, but the damage is much more.

 

 

 

Also, I'd use fire wave any day if runes were worthless...

[00hydro]

Why that's true about the experience, my real point was that higher level runes are expensive, so then if lower runes higher more often, that makes them better. That makes no sense. In other terms, are rune arrows better than mithril? Are dragon longswords better than rune longswords? Yes.

[gregmister2]

that's really weird. I did not know that. You should test 100 of each for some definate results

[RayOxide]

Hmm, I think they try to make it realistic. You are learning that new attack, so it'd be weaker.

 

 

 

Or, it could be that they are preventing you from changing from one spell to another so quickly.

 

 

 

Btw, I think that that spell that looks at other peoples stats shouldn't be a spell. They could say they have 20 str, when they have about 50.

[Triforceelf]

I think your going to find that over long periods of time you will deal more damage with the higher level spells. Sure at first it may seem that they hit less, but I think it will more then even out in their favor especially if you have a decent attack modifier.

[Deathman95]

Why that's true about the experience, my real point was that higher level runes are expensive, so then if lower runes higher more often, that makes them better. That makes no sense. In other terms, are rune arrows better than mithril? Are dragon longswords better than rune longswords? Yes.

 

 

 

Because the higher lvl runes hit HIGHER, hence the HIGHER price... what makes em better is this: With wind strike i can hit 2s, with wind wave i can hit 17s... maybe i'll hit the wind more times, but if i hit the win 4 times in that time i hit the wave twice i've done 4 times the damage...

 

 

 

What RS is saying is that strikes will hit more times than bolts, bolts more then blast, and blast more then wave, but in the end you still do MORE damage. If waves were to hit every single time you vcast them then mage would be completly dominant in the game.

 

 

 

Plus if someone is ancienting they mostlikely are not going there worried about dealling most damage as much as they are worried about the spec's such as ice, or blood, or smoke.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

Well, yeah if you had unlimited runes you'd choose the better. That's like asking what people would train with at Lessers if you gave them the choice between infinite mithril or rune.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

Also, like it was said earlier:

 

If you cast a high level spell with a high magic level, you won't hit as often as with a low level spell.

 

But if you cast low level spells with low level magic, you'll miss quite often still.

[Brontay]

Yeah, it pretty much means that you're not as good at something that you've just learnt apposed to something you've mastered. It makes more sense that you are better at something the more skilled you get in that field.

[S6er112]

This is true however it could bring up another question/test. If what you say is true then would you be proficent at the spell you just got if you were to use, say, a good number of magic potions and trained using the spell before you got it? I've tried training about 2 levels on a spell i could not use and then when i got the level i still stunk at the spell.

 

 

 

just something to thing about.

[highlanders]

I hate the title of this thread, really hate it. Idk why.

 

 

 

Anyway, higher lvl spells are less accurate, not less powerful...

[Chazimcgee]

Higher level spells hit higher so their success rate is not affected greatly by the exp given.

[Aneron]

Do you think that easier spells should fail more often? :?