qeltar Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 I've revised my guide to reflect new information. Unfortunately, most of what I've learned over the last two days has to do with exploits and abuses of this system because Jagex yet again, won't implement a beta program or test thoroughly enough. Here are the main abuse issues: [*] Low-Levels Getting XP at High-Level Speeds: If a low-level player asks for assistance from a high-level but then does something he already could do, then the low-level gets the XP, but operates at the speed corresponding to the more experienced playerÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s level. The high-level doesnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t get XP so there is no limit on how long this can be done, allowing low-level players to gain XP much faster than they should. This seems to work for Cooking, Fishing, Mining, Woodcutting and most other skills. For example, suppose I am level 41 Fishing. I ask for ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅassistanceÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâà Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseHole Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Wow, so the Assist System doomsayers were right? d: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 Wow, so the Assist System doomsayers were right? d: No, most of them were (and still are) wrong, because they were (are) ranting about things that aren't true. These are mostly things that Jagex didn't anticipate, not uses they wanted the system to have. I am sure they'll get cleaned up soon. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBowser Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Here's My problem: I don't use the assist system, but The problem I see is, can the assisted end the assistance? I think they should get that ability, as well as the assister, if that's not already in place. Then when they are done, they can just cancel it, instead of saying they are done. That's what it takes to be a hero, a little gemof innocence inside of you that makes you wantto believe that there still exists a right and wrong,that decency will somehow triumph in the end.--Lise Hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokemaster Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 good job, I enjoyed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soma2035 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I have a question about 1-6. Are you sure you can not plant gout tubers? Because gout weed is nontradeable. Also, birds nests are nontradeable and you can receive them while being assisted for woodcutting. I realize any person can get them on their own anyways, but you CAN obtain untradeables while being assisted... Oh, and does anyone know about big sharks / swordfish / bass? Want to learn to Nex? The Nex Hunters are recruiting! Click for more information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 Haven't gotten any sort of good answers on gout tubers or the big fish. As for the birds' nests, since you can get them from any trees -- and in fact you get them more often chopping lower level ones -- I don't see that as a real issue. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meili Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Thank you for the update and clarifications. I was all in favor of the update before but yesterday and today people have been abusing the system primarily fishing. Would you please make a post in RSOF? I'd gladly support it. The Runescape Wilderness - Meili's Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_lord Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Very good guide, take a bow Queltar! :D Someone move this to the Player-Made Guides Forum so people can find it more easily in the future. Pretty much what Dragon said.Thread terminated.I guess that means I'm the thread Terminator? No Tip.Iters were harmed in the making of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_1027 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 As always, another excellent guide qeltar. I am totally in favor of removing assist on the basic resources. Fishing in Catherby is getting close to unbearable with all the assist begging going on. And the best with fishing is all the people that get an assist to catch shark then have to beg for a cooking assist to cook it , I am hoping once the novelty wears off people will just start refusing to assist these basic skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Thank you for the update and clarifications. I was all in favor of the update before but yesterday and today people have been abusing the system primarily fishing. Would you please make a post in RSOF? I'd gladly support it. Actually, the update was based mainly on feedback from a couple of people I know who have already been hammering the J Mods in the sticky on the RSOF.. they appear to be listening and said they will try to do something. We'll see. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berrakus Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 There's something about this that I have been wondering about, but haven't tried yet. Can Assist be used to make items that contain untradable raw materials? For example, can someone with low herblore use an 82+ Herblorist to make Super Weapon Poison even though it requires the untradable Nightshade? Dragon Drops - 10 Meds, 9 Legs, 5 Skirts, 2 Left HalfPM me to have any potions made or crafting done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killy_the_Kid Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Now I understand, ty Hyt Chat FOREVERI have quit RuneScape. I have posted on the Leaving sticky saying so. Goodbye."Too late... my time has come... gotta leave you all behind and face the truth."~ Freddie Mercury ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Bacon_Man Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Omg... I think I love you. 10/10, and keep the great guides coming! Tetris is about using the equal force of the working power to build up the glorious people's republic of Russia.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximusa Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Thankyou for the clear information, jagex never really explain the inner working of things. Although alot of the things could be bugs or oversights. VMeh BlogV >Miscellaneous Goals< http://www.rsbandb.com/sigs/sig108/bazzaminxer.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywho Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 ok can u answer my question?? can the assist works in the wild? becuase that wont be fair if it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 11/10 bud, visiting truthscape IMMEDIATLY (sp)! ok can u answer my question?? can the assist works in the wild? becuase that wont be fair if it does Why would it not be fair? If you're talking about PKing, re-read the main post Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 Okay, so they did the obvious thing and removed the gathering skills that never should have been there at all. That's good, but does anyone know if they corrected any of the other issues? Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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