Everyone hates jagex

[hybrid2hell]

I do not hate Jagex. They made the game that takes up all my free time on my weekends!

 

 

 

Thanks Andrew

[Smapla]

Given:

 

- I do not hate Jagex.

 

- I am a person

 

- The set "Everyone" is made of all people

 

 

 

Prove : !(not) Everyone hates jagex

 

 

 

I fall within the set "Everyone" - I am a person, therefore am included in the set of all persons

 

 

 

"Everyone" refers to the whole set, not just part of it

 

 

 

Atleast one element of the set "Everyone" does not hate jagex

 

 

 

Not everyone hates jagex.

[KnightLite]

Personally I don't care much for Jagex..

 

 

 

I play rsc, not rs2.. What they've done to Rsc is sickening..

[Solidus_77]

The duelling update did effect all RS players. You name what you do and i'll name how it changed your activities (even just slightly).

 

 

 

That's funny, I don't remember saying that the dueling update didn't affect my gameplay.

[Albel]

I don't hate Jagex at all. I think Jagex is doing a great job on real life item trading and bots. I thank Jagex for trying to help theses problems.

 

-Haseo

[Returned3]

I agree fully with what the title said, except for the "hate" part.

 

 

 

But who knows, this may help in the long term future.

 

Btw even if what you said is true, people dont hate Jagex, they hate the updates, if they hated Jagex, why would they even be at Runescape

[Armadyllo]

Many of us are paying customers. If the company no longer wishes to offer a service for which we were paying, we take our business elsewhere. It's up to Jagex to offer us something that we want; if they don't, there's no deal, and we find something else to entertain us on the internet. Hate doesn't come into it.

 

 

 

If your local supermarket decides not to sell canned tuna fish because they're concerned about killing dolphins, you don't go hating the supermarket. You might tell them that the fuss over dolphins is overrated, or you might tell them to find a cleverer solution by selling tuna that was fished without risk to dolphins, and hopefully they'd listen and do what you asked. But you don't declare that you hate the supermarket staff, and it wouldn't help if you did. Eventually you'd shop elsewhere, and get your tuna fix!

 

 

 

On a separate note, if Jagex did an update that upset even 1% of the total players, that'd be around 60k angry people, many of whom would post about it on forums, which would certainly look like "everyone" was furious about the update. Despite that, the majority of players would still be playing happily enough. The 1% figure is plucked out of thin air; I doubt there were so many high-stakes duelers, but December's BTS looks suspiciously like Jagex is about to do a lot more in the same direction, unless I'm misinterpreting the signs.

[Fey_Warrior]

For one, nobody hates Jagex. You are shining the wrong kind of light on this issue.

 

 

 

People are voicing their concerns over some changes that have happend that have hurt their gameplay. Is there something wrong to try to communicate to Jagex what you think is wrong? They feel like they are paying customers and they want to be heard.

 

 

 

People are not asking for unreasonable things you know. But to destroy staking and do various other draconian changes in an attempt to prevent real world trading (which they still havent) isnt the best solution.

 

 

 

They could have went about this whole buisness better and I think thats where most legitimate concerns are coming from.

 

 

 

I do agree that typing all criticism as bad misses the chance things can be improved by well worded posts pointing out flaws.

 

 

 

If anything, it's the good and well written rants that will improve the game for all players; though obviously not all will agree equally on what those improvements might actually be. I do not agree however, that such improvements are mutually exclusive from ensuring any improvements to also further help remove cheaters from the game. It's not an either/or situation, but one that needs all angles and players' issues taken into consideration.

 

 

 

I spent some time visiting friends and cutting Yews on F2P today; half the type I spent simply chatting and reporting bots; that's certainly something we don't want to see returning to Members' Worlds. So just because it looks okay on Member Worlds now, does not mean no more needs to be done.

 

 

 

Personally, I have quite a few friends who were good stakers, and who now have a good Tournament ranking. If Tournament ranking can have another use, it would be good if that gave two players with a good ranking the ability to stake higher again upstairs.

 

 

 

On the Rants sticky on the Duel Arena on the ORSF (Official RuneScape Forums as they call it on Tip.It), I saw many useful and possible solutions posted that could, from the point of view of another player possibly work. I do know those ideas did get read, and hopefully those that were a little more complicated may go into development. That could of course mean it may be many months before we see any result.

 

 

 

However that's a typical time-frame. The new Bounty Hunting Game and Clan War Arena were things suggested on the "Improvements to the Wilderness" sticky back in Jul - Oct 06 and it's taken just over year for them to come out.

 

 

 

So while I certainly don't agree every update is perfect, I agree we need to focus our attention on the features that are creating problems for players, rather than getting worried about the amount or the type of feedback.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Fey.

[ego_scorpion]

Fey_Warrior, after reading your post all I can add is one thing. There is a fundamental flaw with some of the posters on here and on runescape official forums. Not everybody posts to express their concerns or try to help or whatever the positive reason may be.

 

 

 

I have noticed a rather large number of people who post simply to seek attention. The way I see it, topics that condemn large groups of people with particular play styles, or topics that "complain about complainers" are good examples of people posting simply to seek attentnion and being noticed.

 

 

 

There is nothing wrong with that, but problem comes in when some people take it too far and dont know what to stop.

 

 

 

As for botter problem, that one is getting worst not better. There was always 2 lvl-3 starting outfit, bold hair woodcutters in seers, cutting yews. Often they would make new characters with new names, because they would get banned.

 

 

 

Lately, ive noticed its now 3 of them not 2. So if anything the problem got worst.

[Maximusa]

If someone wanted to build a bypass through your house I bet you would complain. Sure its for the better good of everyone who uses the bypass and the village it is bypassing.. but you sure wouldnt be happy about it.

 

 

 

Fact is they removed staking from the game and people have a right to complain about it. If you cared at all about the direction the game is going you would realise they are nuking parts of a game to stop a small group of cheaters at the cost of a large amount of legit paying customers. This is nothing like the bypass example because they COULD of easilly allowed a higher staking cap. This would of stopped rwt and still allowed stakers to stake.

 

 

 

Btw I am impressed by the lack of people kissing jagex [wagon] in this thread. I feel sorry for those who dont realise the direction this game is heading. Sooner or later it might just effect you. Even if it doesnt effect you you should sympathy for the players around you it does effect. =/

[Embraced]

Everyone is the WRONG word to use.

[aznmidget448]

Basically if you have better ideas to stop autoers, sweat shop workers, scamming, and real world trading, go e-mail the ideas to Jagex. If you don't stop whining because it will not help get any of Jagex to advance further and will only hold them back from doing anything useful.

[sithlord_man]

to be honest i like jagex and how they do things...Some updates are good, like clan chat other are annoying...(duel arena)

 

 

 

Just to say, i look up to the good updates jagex makes...

[meili]

The way I see it, topics that condemn large groups of people with particular play styles, or topics that "complain about complainers" are good examples of people posting simply to seek attentnion and being noticed.

 

 

 

Not to mention that more than half of them are just kissing up to mods or Jagex. *cough* Wannabe mods/pmods. *cough* Or they are little kids who see Andrew as their daddy and their little minds hurt when they think people don't like their daddy. \

[dynastyfan0]

I wish they could rewind their updates to right before the wildy ditch, and just stop right there. they are ruining my game, and i hate them for it. sure they can keep adding stuff like gwd and skills, but leave it at that. the game was fun and fine without their constent intercessions, and it makes me so angry how they hit the selfdistruct button

[ego_scorpion]

The way I see it, topics that condemn large groups of people with particular play styles, or topics that "complain about complainers" are good examples of people posting simply to seek attentnion and being noticed.

 

 

 

Not to mention that more than half of them are just kissing up to mods or Jagex. *cough* Wannabe mods/pmods. *cough* Or they are little kids who see Andrew as their daddy and their little minds hurt when they think people don't like their daddy. \

 

 

 

meili, I have to say having talked to you through a few threads you are one of my favourite people here! \

 

 

 

You dislike stupidity, suckups, and wonnabe-mods as much as I do and are not afraid to say it hehe :)