An idea to stop all autoers? Pros-Cons?

[KnightLite]

Well.. here is my "ingenious" idea...

 

 

 

Why not give every person in RuneScape, a power to be able to ban somebody..?

 

 

 

Here's how it would work...

 

Instead of a 'Report Abuse' button for reporting autoers.. you right click them, and are given an option "Send Nudge" or something along those lines..

 

Right click the player "Knight Lite"

 

Click "Send Nudge"

 

 

 

When you do this, it could bring up a small window on "Knight Lite's" RuneScape screen. A simple "solve the math problem" of 2+4 or something random with 4 answers. If Knight Lite doesn't answer the question within 10 minutes of gametime, he will be temporarily banned for 1 hour while a mod looks into the last 60 seconds of gameplay...

 

 

 

Each player would get 20 nudges per 24 hours of gametime.

 

If you send 50 nudges and fail to get a 1 hour ban on a player, you will recieve a 1 day ban.

 

 

 

Another random idea, if you get nudged, RuneScape could play a little *beep* sound or something. Nothing annoying, just something simple to let you know not to be afk anymore, if you are actually in the room :evil:

 

 

 

Just an idea I was kinda randomly thinking about..

 

 

 

Post your feedback :D

[Solidus_77]

Simple answer: No.

 

 

 

Long answer: No and we've already been here before. They are called random events, and considering how easily bots bypass these, bots will just as easily bypass these new ones. Not to mention the insane amounts of "collateral damage" that would ensue.

 

 

 

Why bother stopping the bots? With the difficulty of transferring in game items for (in game or real world) currency, they are a dying breed.

[Mr_Cheese]

I think this is a good idea, but before you are able to use it there should be a tutorial so new and stupid players dont abuse it by sending 20 nudges to 1 person at a time.

[Sy_Accursed]

Bad idea.

 

 

 

Easily abusable

 

 

 

And the bot problem is a dying breed.

 

 

 

With all the measure implemented it has become increasing impossible for bots to transfer items about without being noticed.

 

 

 

What do you think all these updates are for?

 

 

 

Previous Jagex had to track trades and try stop unbalanced ones.

 

 

 

Now most trades run through ge, duel arena has a 3k per hour limit, party petes tells the whole world and delays for big balloon drops and it seems pking loot piles are going to get a nudge in this direction.

 

 

 

The simple result of all these updates is: the only viable way for bots to give items to the "main" that sells them is through traditional trades. With far less trades running through the system Jagex can easily spot every last one unbalanced trade that happens. Meaning they can effectively ban the main accounts and the bots more.

[jessy87]

Bad idea.

 

 

 

Easily abusable

 

 

 

And the bot problem is a dying breed.

 

 

 

With all the measure implemented it has become increasing impossible for bots to transfer items about without being noticed.

 

 

 

What do you think all these updates are for?

 

 

 

Previous Jagex had to track trades and try stop unbalanced ones.

 

 

 

Now most trades run through ge, duel arena has a 3k per hour limit, party petes tells the whole world and delays for big balloon drops and it seems pking loot piles are going to get a nudge in this direction.

 

 

 

The simple result of all these updates is: the only viable way for bots to give items to the "main" that sells them is through traditional trades. With far less trades running through the system Jagex can easily spot every last one unbalanced trade that happens. Meaning they can effectively ban the main accounts and the bots more.

 

 

 

 

 

nicely put, i did not consider party pete to be like that.

[Slick_cat]

Reasonable idea, my version from 1-1.5 years ago had people be able to challenge someone once an hour (or be challenged once an hour).

 

 

 

If you failed enough challenges, anyone could attack you anywhere.

 

 

 

Also: news flash to everyone that believes that bots are a dying breed - it currently takes Jagex 3+ weeks to ban a bot (from the time that you report it).

[Solidus_77]

Reasonable idea, my version from 1-1.5 years ago had people be able to challenge someone once an hour (or be challenged once an hour).

 

 

 

If you failed enough challenges, anyone could attack you anywhere.

 

 

 

Also: news flash to everyone that believes that bots are a dying breed - it currently takes Jagex 3+ weeks to ban a bot (from the time that you report it).

 

 

 

Considering they can ban 10000+ bots per week, why is that even a problem? Stop making assumptions based off of the extremely limited amount of information you have

 

 

 

Furthermore, the bots are a dying breed simply because RWT is so difficult now.

[Laikrob]

Moved to the correct forum.

 

 

 

Laikrob,

 

TIp.It Moderator

[Sy_Accursed]

Reasonable idea, my version from 1-1.5 years ago had people be able to challenge someone once an hour (or be challenged once an hour).

 

 

 

If you failed enough challenges, anyone could attack you anywhere.

 

 

 

Also: news flash to everyone that believes that bots are a dying breed - it currently takes Jagex 3+ weeks to ban a bot (from the time that you report it).

 

 

 

Considering they can ban 10000+ bots per week, why is that even a problem? Stop making assumptions based off of the extremely limited amount of information you have

 

 

 

Furthermore, the bots are a dying breed simply because RWT is so difficult now.

 

 

 

As i explained

 

 

 

bots have to trade to thier mains then onto buyers in unbalanced trades.

 

 

 

In the trade system these would hardto spot due to sheer volume - GE empties trade system, these trades are easily spotted.

 

 

 

Gem cutting etc caused unbalanced trades whihc could cause confusion - req assist got rid of trust trades, making less unblanaced trades

 

 

 

Duel Arena was used for item shifting outside of trades - 3k limit stops this being done on mass

 

 

 

Party Pete balloon drop was being used for this - the annoucnments by bankers etc means it's hard to transfer bigt amounts

 

 

 

Wildy killing for loot is the only remaining major way to do this easily, but it seems jagexd will tweak that this month.

 

 

 

Basically bots are now being limited so they CAN only trade to transfer items and with the trade system so empty Jagex can easily pick them upnow.

[Slick_cat]

 

As i explained

 

 

 

bots have to trade to thier mains then onto buyers in unbalanced trades.

 

 

 

In the trade system these would hardto spot due to sheer volume - GE empties trade system, these trades are easily spotted.

 

 

 

Gem cutting etc caused unbalanced trades whihc could cause confusion - req assist got rid of trust trades, making less unblanaced trades

 

 

 

Duel Arena was used for item shifting outside of trades - 3k limit stops this being done on mass

 

 

 

Party Pete balloon drop was being used for this - the annoucnments by bankers etc means it's hard to transfer bigt amounts

 

 

 

Wildy killing for loot is the only remaining major way to do this easily, but it seems jagexd will tweak that this month.

 

 

 

Basically bots are now being limited so they CAN only trade to transfer items and with the trade system so empty Jagex can easily pick them upnow.

 

 

 

They've blocked the trade thru a store method.

 

 

 

I assume gravestones will also block arranging to die to a monster trades.

 

 

 

All that's left is: acct to acct trades and drop trades.

 

 

 

I'm not convinced about their ability to detect 'imbalanced trades'; they've fibbed about things many a time before. Also, lots of people give presents to friends or lend things to friends.

 

 

 

And even if acct-to-acct trade detection works, drop trades in secluded spots are a huge loophole.

 

 

 

I wish that they'd quest-lock acct-to-acct trade behind a 1-2 hr long highly variable quest and either get rid of drop trades or hide them behind acct-to-acct as well.

[aznmidget448]

I don't think so. noobs would continuously do this and they people who would want free things could just go to the dag area and keep nudging the people who are working on the kings. This would be a disaster since people can stay there for hours at a time, but cannot do anything since they will be under constant barrage by enemies.

 

 

 

However, it is a very creative idea that might work if work with some adjustments.

[The Observer]

It can be abusable. Multiple people could just keep sending "nudges". Lag may occur, and will temporarily ban them.

[KnightLite]

It can be abusable. Multiple people could just keep sending "nudges". Lag may occur, and will temporarily ban them.

 

 

 

 

 

10 minutes of lag? If you're lagging that badly, then you can go 1 hour without playing Rs2..

[Will H]

As said by others, autoers are a dying breed. We've sacrificed a lot to do this, and RS doesn't want to take any more hits 'for the greater good'.

 

 

 

What exactly is the autoer population like now? Is it going down or what?

[OldJoe]

Edit - delete this post.

[Sy_Accursed]

As said by others, autoers are a dying breed. We've sacrificed a lot to do this, and RS doesn't want to take any more hits 'for the greater good'.

 

 

 

What exactly is the autoer population like now? Is it going down or what?

 

 

 

 

 

It's begining to waver.

 

 

 

They are getting stuck with actually trading thier produce thanks to jagex intervention measures and some of the people who run them are realising this so seem to be giving up on replacing bot that get banned.

 

 

 

Though equally since the GE came out it seems Jagex can get them banned much quicker (see my comments about less trades so easier to spot)

[omirzan]

all the bot makers would have to do are create new bots that have a mathematical ability installed into them so that they can bypass these simple problems.