ARGH! Skilling ain't a bad thing you know...

[ChickyBee32]

But I'm reading thread upon thread upon thread of former PKers saying "Oh you just skill all day?" as if it's a bad thing.

 

 

 

I like to skill. There's 3 skills I don't enjoy working on, the rest of the time, I'm happy to cut logs, dip a fishing net in the water, steal grey fur and chat to whoever is around. I train combat when I train slaying. I don't stake and I don't PK and I don't care if you do.

 

 

 

Being a skiller does not make me less of a person or an interior player!

 

And while I understand why the PKers are all mad as hell, at least my gaming experience hasn't changed and I can still continue to make money the way I always have.

[highlanders]

Yep, everyone has those things in Runescape that they like.

 

 

 

And I like your post because unlike a lot of people who don't Pk, you don't say things like "Haha I don't care about the wilderness and the Pkers, they deserved it. The update is great because it doesn't change anything for me".

[l0l0lpur3]

this update hurts skillers too. no pking = less demand for pots, runes etc

[123Yourgone]

Yep, everyone has those things in Runescape that they like.

 

 

 

And I like your post because unlike a lot of people who don't Pk, you don't say things like "Haha I don't care about the wilderness and the Pkers, they deserved it. The update is great because it doesn't change anything for me".

Thats why the pkers are angry at skillers, half of the skillers who never pked are saying Meh i dont care i didnt pk anyway.

 

I never EVER lvl farming, if it got taken away i would stand up for the skillers who enjoyed it.

 

Skillers however seem to place themselves on a pedastal where pkers stakers and combat based characters are nothing to them.

 

Who cares if we lost the most fun part of the game to us, yours remained unchanged.

[dutchdreams]

Agreed. There are rotten apples on both sides of the fence. Pk'ers cussing out skillers and skillers rubbing it into pk'ers faces.

 

The way the updates turned out sure made the game more difficult to advance in. Which I think is good. I have no problem doing a lot of grinding to get my levels, something which can't be said about a lot of people.

 

 

 

Judging by the poll here on Tipit (yes, I know, it's not representative for the whole Runescape-community, but it gives an indication), the community is split in half about this particular update.

 

Personally, I like the updates, because as a skiller I'm not directly affected much by it *yet*. Whether or not in a few months time there will be a big enough player base to sell my products to, I don't know.

 

 

 

Pk'ers have every right to be mad at Jagex, since they should've been provided with a good alternative for PvP. Something which they neglected to do with bounty hunter. If memory serves me, Jagex wrote in the news that the bounty hunter/clan areas are the first of new PvP-areas to follow. Hopefully for Pk'ers the next one will be a single-zone, or one where you are given an immunity time (say 30 seconds after spawning in the zone).

 

 

 

Edit: If the updates get rid of RWTraders like these (bye bye R2P, 18 billion RS-gp traded), then I think it's worth it.

[King_Peter18]

Agreed. There are rotten apples on both sides of the fence. Pk'ers cussing out skillers and skillers rubbing it into pk'ers faces.

 

The way the updates turned out sure made the game more difficult to advance in. Which I think is good. I have no problem doing a lot of grinding to get my levels, something which can't be said about a lot of people.

 

 

 

Judging by the poll here on Tipit (yes, I know, it's not representative for the whole Runescape-community, but it gives an indication), the community is split in half about this particular update.

 

Personally, I like the updates, because as a skiller I'm not directly affected much by it *yet*. Whether or not in a few months time there will be a big enough player base to sell my products to, I don't know.

 

 

 

Pk'ers have every right to be mad at Jagex, since they should've been provided with a good alternative for PvP. Something which they neglected to do with bounty hunter. If memory serves me, Jagex wrote in the news that the bounty hunter/clan areas are the first of new PvP-areas to follow. Hopefully for Pk'ers the next one will be a single-zone, or one where you are given an immunity time (say 30 seconds after spawning in the zone).

 

 

 

Edit: If the updates get rid of RWTraders like these (bye bye R2P, 18 billion RS-gp traded), then I think it's worth it.

 

 

 

I don't think it will stop RWT, they could just start selling accounts. Maybe just be me though. All games have RWT problems, but I think this is the only game I have seen, to slap the players in the face to stop cheaters.

 

 

 

this update hurts skillers too. no pking = less demand for pots, runes etc

 

 

 

Not to mention that Abyss crafting is going to be easy as pie.

[LiChef]

I think there's nothing wrong with skilling. Most people, like me, get edgy when going into the wild and paranoid so to save myself some items and probably a nervous breakdown i just don't go. I stay in a nice friendly place, chat to my mates and skill.

[Mico]

I think there's nothing wrong with skilling. Most people, like me, get edgy when going into the wild and paranoid so to save myself some items and probably a nervous breakdown i just don't go. I stay in a nice friendly place, chat to my mates and skill.

 

 

 

Whell, try Bounty Hunter...

 

 

 

Anyway, PKing is not dead at all, the wilderness is still there, as far as I know, teams were common in the Wilderness, pures just team up in the low leveled cavern and blam, you got yourself a PKing trip. Besides, if you run low on health, you just run out and come back in, fresh as a fresh lemon.

[Rock Hard]

 

 

 

Whell, try Bounty Hunter...

 

 

 

Anyway, PKing is not dead at all, the wilderness is still there, as far as I know, teams were common in the Wilderness, pures just team up in the low leveled cavern and blam, you got yourself a PKing trip. Besides, if you run low on health, you just run out and come back in, fresh as a fresh lemon.

 

 

 

Yup, you can still team for kills. Sadly many players prefered to test their skills and stats alone, without a big team to act as a safety net.

 

 

 

:(

 

 

 

I guess the game just changed. Adapt or leave. >.<

[StyIez]

Well this update along with the new gold exchange, killed the rune market. I use to make nature runes for profit now I can't even sell 4k nats for 1 million GP. All the other skills I need to max out the price for raw materials is absolutely insane. Time to retire for a final time

[hephaestos8]

Yep, everyone has those things in Runescape that they like.

 

 

 

And I like your post because unlike a lot of people who don't Pk, you don't say things like "Haha I don't care about the wilderness and the Pkers, they deserved it. The update is great because it doesn't change anything for me".

Thats why the pkers are angry at skillers, half of the skillers who never pked are saying Meh i dont care i didnt pk anyway.

 

I never EVER lvl farming, if it got taken away i would stand up for the skillers who enjoyed it.

 

Skillers however seem to place themselves on a pedastal where pkers stakers and combat based characters are nothing to them.

 

Who cares if we lost the most fun part of the game to us, yours remained unchanged.

 

 

 

I dont know why the pkers are complaining, they now have a highscores table so people could see their achievements

[King_Peter18]

Yep, everyone has those things in Runescape that they like.

 

 

 

And I like your post because unlike a lot of people who don't Pk, you don't say things like "Haha I don't care about the wilderness and the Pkers, they deserved it. The update is great because it doesn't change anything for me".

Thats why the pkers are angry at skillers, half of the skillers who never pked are saying Meh i dont care i didnt pk anyway.

 

I never EVER lvl farming, if it got taken away i would stand up for the skillers who enjoyed it.

 

Skillers however seem to place themselves on a pedastal where pkers stakers and combat based characters are nothing to them.

 

Who cares if we lost the most fun part of the game to us, yours remained unchanged.

 

 

 

I dont know why the pkers are complaining, they now have a highscores table so people could see their achievements

 

 

 

Because the PKers can't sneak up and ambush other PKers. Getting a big rush of adrenaline. :D

[Solidus_77]

Yep, everyone has those things in Runescape that they like.

 

 

 

And I like your post because unlike a lot of people who don't Pk, you don't say things like "Haha I don't care about the wilderness and the Pkers, they deserved it. The update is great because it doesn't change anything for me".

Thats why the pkers are angry at skillers, half of the skillers who never pked are saying Meh i dont care i didnt pk anyway.

 

I never EVER lvl farming, if it got taken away i would stand up for the skillers who enjoyed it.

 

Skillers however seem to place themselves on a pedastal where pkers stakers and combat based characters are nothing to them.

 

Who cares if we lost the most fun part of the game to us, yours remained unchanged.

 

 

 

I dont know why the pkers are complaining, they now have a highscores table so people could see their achievements

 

 

 

Because the PKers can't sneak up and ambush other PKers. Getting a big rush of adrenaline. :D

 

 

 

That's it? Pkers have taken fights to the street because they are lacking adrenaline? :-s Something tells me there's more to it than that.

[Ezz]

It's a question of personal preference, obviously.

[highlanders]

 

That's it? Pkers have taken fights to the street because they are lacking adrenaline? :-s Something tells me there's more to it than that.

 

Lol

[Huta]

This didn't just affect pkers. Let me quote myself;

 

 

 

Then comes the trade update. It's impossible to share anything, even a superset, anymore. This may not seem so great, but just think of the hassles this will cause to simple, everyday functions; "Trade says my diamond is worth 3,723gp and my gold bar is worth 201 gp, I can't trade that for your power ammy because people sell those on the GE for 7,254 gp, and that's 531 gp over the limit." Yeah.

 

 

 

This is going to affect everything that you do. There is no freedom whatsoever in this game. None. With a 3k limit on trading, everything you do that involves sharing or selling an item to another player will be restricted by nickel-and-dime controls based off of the GE's prices. This game has degraded into a dictatorial shadow of its past.

 

 

 

It's funny, but Jagex's own news article on this update mentions that "We have left you with the ability to give away small items worth under 3k every 15 minutes. We don't want to discourage you from sharing items with friends, so feel free to give an antipoison to someone in need!" - or something to those lines.

 

 

 

What cracks me up?

 

 

 

I can't even give away a superanti.

[Solidus_77]

This didn't just affect pkers. Let me quote myself;

 

 

 

Then comes the trade update. It's impossible to share anything, even a superset, anymore. This may not seem so great, but just think of the hassles this will cause to simple, everyday functions; "Trade says my diamond is worth 3,723gp and my gold bar is worth 201 gp, I can't trade that for your power ammy because people sell those on the GE for 7,254 gp, and that's 531 gp over the limit." Yeah.

 

 

 

This is going to affect everything that you do. There is no freedom whatsoever in this game. None. With a 3k limit on trading, everything you do that involves sharing or selling an item to another player will be restricted by nickel-and-dime controls based off of the GE's prices. This game has degraded into a dictatorial shadow of its past.

'

 

 

 

 

 

Well you're completely wrong. If you can't sell the amulet for the right price, you don't sell it. Yeah it sucks as a restriction but saying there isn't any freedom is completely incorrect. You have a small range to operate in, and most importantly you have the freedom of refusing to sell. This refusing power is huge, and the GE's price will respond to that.

[Huta]

This didn't just affect pkers. Let me quote myself;

 

 

 

Then comes the trade update. It's impossible to share anything, even a superset, anymore. This may not seem so great, but just think of the hassles this will cause to simple, everyday functions; "Trade says my diamond is worth 3,723gp and my gold bar is worth 201 gp, I can't trade that for your power ammy because people sell those on the GE for 7,254 gp, and that's 531 gp over the limit." Yeah.

 

 

 

This is going to affect everything that you do. There is no freedom whatsoever in this game. None. With a 3k limit on trading, everything you do that involves sharing or selling an item to another player will be restricted by nickel-and-dime controls based off of the GE's prices. This game has degraded into a dictatorial shadow of its past.

'

 

 

 

 

 

Well you're completely wrong. If you can't sell the amulet for the right price, you don't sell it. Yeah it sucks as a restriction but saying there isn't any freedom is completely incorrect. You have a small range to operate in, and most importantly you have the freedom of refusing to sell. This refusing power is huge, and the GE's price will respond to that.

 

 

 

A "small range" doesn't constitute freedom. If that's freedom, then the Nazis were giving the German people freedom when they told them they can listen to the radio, as long as you listen only to Nazi stations with specially designed, government issued radios.

 

 

 

No, I'm not comparing Jagex to Hitler. I'm simply showing that this isn't freedom. Freedom doesn't merely mean "you have a choice", it means you have control over your own decisions as long as they don't restrict another's freedom.

 

 

 

RuneScape is no longer free. Because the crimes of a minority, we no longer have a free market or open pvp outside a select few minigames. Our ability to use the items we've earned is crippled. We no longer can lend our hard-earned items to a close friend, for fear that some macro bot might use the same trade system to hand over autoed goods. We can't stake any more, just because some RWTs used it to transfer funds. We are no longer allowed to sell items for our own prices, just to restrict a select few.

 

 

 

That's not freedom.

[pure_fett]

This didn't just affect pkers. Let me quote myself;

 

 

 

Then comes the trade update. It's impossible to share anything, even a superset, anymore. This may not seem so great, but just think of the hassles this will cause to simple, everyday functions; "Trade says my diamond is worth 3,723gp and my gold bar is worth 201 gp, I can't trade that for your power ammy because people sell those on the GE for 7,254 gp, and that's 531 gp over the limit." Yeah.

 

 

 

This is going to affect everything that you do. There is no freedom whatsoever in this game. None. With a 3k limit on trading, everything you do that involves sharing or selling an item to another player will be restricted by nickel-and-dime controls based off of the GE's prices. This game has degraded into a dictatorial shadow of its past.

'

 

 

 

 

 

Well you're completely wrong. If you can't sell the amulet for the right price, you don't sell it. Yeah it sucks as a restriction but saying there isn't any freedom is completely incorrect. You have a small range to operate in, and most importantly you have the freedom of refusing to sell. This refusing power is huge, and the GE's price will respond to that.

 

 

 

how many times have you intentionally bought an item 10x overpriced to get it fast, the fact is, most people sitting in the bank won't pay attention to you if your buying an item for the going price. now take this for example, because in BH you can't return to pick up your items that drop but the other person can't pickup (god book, ghostly, torso, range backpack) lots of people are 1iteming in BH not out of choice, but because thats the most logical in the way they have set it up. now the point ----

 

 

 

i realized the fact that in 5 deaths i was going to run out of climbing boots, everyone has them +2 str is nice for a 10gp item.... who is really going to sell you that item for 10 (or whatever the ridiculously low GE price is) at BH yesterday i saw on five separate occasions people saying " buying climbing boots 15k ea" as that is the only price that caught people's eye.

 

its crazy that jagex is taken the ABILITY to overpay someone for their items.

 

 

 

i had a perm woodcutter of magic logs, Very nice girl, always sold me mages for 1k ea every 1k or so i would give her an extra 200k gp for staying loyal to selling to only me did i have to do that? no! come January do i have that option? the option to be nice? NO! the option to be nice has been stripped from me.

[ChickyBee32]

this update hurts skillers too. no pking = less demand for pots, runes etc

 

 

 

Depends on the skill. I woodcut and fish, luckily for me, there'll always be people looking to buy 99 fletching/cooking.

[l0l0lpur3]

this update hurts skillers too. no pking = less demand for pots, runes etc

 

 

 

Depends on the skill. I woodcut and fish, luckily for me, there'll always be people looking to buy 99 fletching/cooking.

 

and who will they sell the longbows to? (they used to sell to people who trained magic by alching to PK), and who will they sell the cooked sharks to? (they used to sell to people who needed sharks for pking), although lots of people use sharks to train. people will want the price of skills to stay the same so wont offer asmuch for raw materials as before

[Intheclub]

Just because people are complaining about pking and how its gone, doesn't mean they hate skilling, infact most pures or pkers like skilling to a certain extent.

 

 

 

Your points are invalid and too general.

 

 

 

give me actual quotes of people saying "skilling is so bad, and no fun"

 

 

 

and NOT quotes like "pking is gone, i can't skill ALL day"