psvstef Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 hide tags would not be bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorcus1 Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 This guide isn't detailed. Heck, it's not meant to be detailed. This is the best and most comprehensive general skill-training guide (because I haven't seen any other ones). There are a few improvements that would be really nice though: 1. State how much exp/hour and GP/hour (positive or negative) each method gets you. 2. Add alternative methods. I sure as hell don't have the cash to get to 99 smithing with gold, nor do I have the patience to do it all with cannonballs. Smelting bars and making platemail are also good alternatives. 3. If possible, put links to other guides. Your guide isn't detailed. Link to guides that offer the missing detail. (don't add any more detail than you have to) 4. Cut as many unnecessary words/sentences as possible. As an example: [hide=]First head over to the Adrougne Hunting shop and buy some Bird Traps (three should be good), now to start hunting. We will be starting with Crimson Swifts in the Jungle Area. Lets use our gnome glider to get to feldip hills, if you don't have that try using Fairy ring code C K S to get there (providing that you have access). Now if you do not have the ability to use either just simply walk south of Yanille until you reach the birds. Once we reach Crimson Swifts lay out your bird trip and wait until you catch it. Keep catching swifts until level 9 hunter. With a bit of editing, I could shorten it to: Go to the Ardougne Hunting shop. Buy at least three Bird Traps. Start off catching Crimson Swifts in the Jungle Area. Use the gnome glider to get to Feldip Hills. If you can't, use fairy ring code CKS or just walk south of Yanille until you reach the birds. Once you reach Crimson Swifts lay out your bird trap and wait until you catch them. Keep catching swifts until level 9 hunter.[/hide] This guide has a lot of room for improvement, but the structure is dead on. Keep up the good work. This definitely has the potential to be AoW quality. "The best defence is to stay out of range" - French proverbBad luck happens. Learn and get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan_Nx Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Thanks guys. I have thought about it the past few days and I have decided to start updating this guide again. I plan on reworking each skill section and I will add credit to those I haven't added yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckellingc Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I have a suggestion for crafting. When you achieve 66 crafting, you can make Air Battlestaves. As of right now, the current price of an uncharged battlestaff in the grand exchange is 8434, and an air orb is 888, for a total of 9322. Air battlestaves can be sold in the ge for 9044, which is only a loss of 280gp give or take. Air battlestaves give you 137.5 gp, so you are getting approximately 2gp/1xp. Not a bad price if you ask me. The only down side, you can only get 100 battlestaves per 4 hours, so if you want a big order (1k or so) it might take a few days. There is no way to make "Millions fast and easy"... SO QUIT ASKING ABOUT IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death_Dude74 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 52-67:Wilderness Course Bring some food with you so you can restore you health when you fail (you will fail even if your 99 agility) also bring something to cut webs with. Get there by pulling the lever next to the entrance to West Ardougne. Once you get teleported to the wild walk north until you hit a web, cut it. Now walk west until you reach the gates of the course. (you should pass Mage Arena and Pirates hideout on the way there) 67-90:Ape Atoll Course You must do Monkey Madness and have a ninja gree gree though to do this course. And because you have completed MM it shouldn't be hard to get there, just go south from the guy you bought the talismans from in the quest and you should reach it. 90-99:Doresh-Kaan Course Need some help with this method. The wilderness course is a pain because of revenants. If you choose to use it at all, then I suggest switching to the werewolf course at 60. Also, pick up Dorgesh-Kaan earlier in agility training; I believe 80-85 is the suggested level to begin there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan_Nx Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 Thanks guys, when I re-make those sections I'll definitely come back and look at your suggestions closer. Death: I haven't update the section since revs have come out. What do you suggest for 52-60 then? The melee/slayer section is nearly complete, tell me what you all think. I'm still missing some exp per h for parts of the section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckellingc Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Oh and for smithing, you can buy mithril ore: 175, and 4 coal : 768, for a total of 943, and sell the bar in the ge for 1.1k. The same can be done with steel bars. EDIT: Woodcutting There's a teak tree southwest of castle wars. Equip your axe and ring of dueling, tele to castle wars, go south of castle wars and continue to move west. You can't miss it. Usually not crowded, I've only seen 3 people there max. There is no way to make "Millions fast and easy"... SO QUIT ASKING ABOUT IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildxYak Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 For 60 - 99 range there are a few decent yet boring ways. Yaks or King Lathas Ogres with low level knives, arrows or bone bolts. Blue Dragons can bring in profit with bones, hides and clues. 99: Agility 28/12/14|Thieving 20/03/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan_Nx Posted August 4, 2008 Author Share Posted August 4, 2008 Ranged guide is now re-made. I'm planning on adding a Chinning and giant spider method in the future. I will now be working on re-making Prayer, look for that in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiophobus Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Where did you get your teak experience/hour rate? It's more like 60-70k an hour. Dorgesh is faster experience if you really concentrate, but it's harder to keep up then ape atoll. There aren't really places where you can stop and type or something like the fine swing at ape. Also, it's not a very nice place to be for an extended amount of time. It's really dark (even with lighting settings off), the graphics look sloppy, and you can still fail at 99. I did a 6 hour autolog there, going at a pretty good pace, averaged out to about 50k an hour. So it's really not much better than ape atoll. One bonus of going there though is you use a lot less super energies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Your fishing thing is wrong. It's more efficient to switch to monkfish at 62, then either switch to heavy rod fishing at 70 or keep doing monkfish. So: 1-20 whatever 20-62 fly fish 62-90 monkfish 90-99 heavy rod 90 is just an arbitrary almost-halfway number where you might switch methods. It could be anything above 70 depending how much profit you want. More profit, catch more monks. Less profit, catch fewer monks. And for woodcutting it should be 1-15 normal logs 15-30 oak logs 30-35 willow logs 35-99 teak logs or 60-99 yew logs or 58-99 eucalyptus logs No reason at all to chop maples with the logs at less than 50 gp each. It's pretty pathetic profit. Yews or eucalyptus are both far better. And teaks are faster exp than willows at any level where you can chop both, even taking into account the time to drop an inventory. Also 90 agility is a little late to start dorgesh-kaan. You could definitely go a few levels sooner. Mid-80s ought to be fine. Wildy is still probably faster than its alternatives for levels 48-60, but it would be advisable to switch to werewolf at 60 I think. Toy mice are no longer a viable method as they have been heavily nerfed. And for magic, high alchemy is the most common method, but that doesn't mean it's the best. There are lots of spells you could use that are cheaper or faster. Humidify is a great example of a good alternative. It's a little slower experience if you fill vials, but you get a substantial profit instead of a loss. For prayer, there's nothing really stopping you from recommending dragon bones for levels 1-20 as well. I mean you get those levels in one inventory of dragon bones, so it's not a big thing. For thieving, blackjacking bearded pollnivnian bandits is the best exp for 45-65, and blackjacking menaphite thugs is actually the fastest all the way to 91. (If you could get perfect rates with a lot of concentration, it would be even faster than plundering at 91 too...but that's tough.) For firemaking, you should just do maples 45-99. There's little reason to do anything else unless you have a very high income, in which case yews or eucalyptus are going to be more efficient. But there's pretty much nobody who will do better with willows, not with maples giving 50% faster experience for only 2m more. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan_Nx Posted August 4, 2008 Author Share Posted August 4, 2008 Ok.. I understand a lot of things in my guide are incorrect at the moment. I'm planning on reworking them, so just ignore the guides that haven't been reworked yet, because yes, they probably are wrong. For thieving, blackjacking bearded pollnivnian bandits is the best exp for 45-65, and blackjacking menaphite thugs is actually the fastest all the way to 91. (If you could get perfect rates with a lot of concentration, it would be even faster than plundering at 91 too...but that's tough.) I've heard Jagex has changed the way blackjacking works and it isn't as efficient anymore. I'll look into it more later. For firemaking, you should just do maples 45-99. There's little reason to do anything else unless you have a very high income, in which case yews or eucalyptus are going to be more efficient. But there's pretty much nobody who will do better with willows, not with maples giving 50% faster experience for only 2m more. This same answer goes for a lot of your suggestions. When I made this guide maples were 90-100 each and you could get willows at 25ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Ok.. I understand a lot of things in my guide are incorrect at the moment. I'm planning on reworking them, so just ignore the guides that haven't been reworked yet, because yes, they probably are wrong. Okay then. I've heard Jagex has changed the way blackjacking works and it isn't as efficient anymore. I'll look into it more later. I can confirm that as a false rumor. They only changed the animation. The actual speed of pickpocketing is still unchanged. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulmachine Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Ok.. I understand a lot of things in my guide are incorrect at the moment. I'm planning on reworking them, so just ignore the guides that haven't been reworked yet, because yes, they probably are wrong. Okay then. I've heard Jagex has changed the way blackjacking works and it isn't as efficient anymore. I'll look into it more later. I can confirm that as a false rumor. They only changed the animation. The actual speed of pickpocketing is still unchanged. The speed was reduced slightly and now it requires a lot more precision in your clicks, unlike before. Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 The speed was reduced slightly and now it requires a lot more precision in your clicks, unlike before. I didn't notice anything different. :shock: Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promise Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Maybe you should add some links to other guides for a specific skill? Not only would the reader be able to learn from this guide, but from others that have different information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forerunner Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Nice guide, though can't willows be used as a substitute for teaks from 30 - 99 Woodcutting? Overall nice guide. 8/10 :thumbsup: Only fear God,Know the weapons of the weak,The weakness of the hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Nice guide, though can't willows be used as a substitute for teaks from 30 - 99 Woodcutting? Overall nice guide. 8/10 :thumbsup: Willows are not a good substitution for teaks, because the extra ~30 hours it takes to chop willows only gets you a mere ~3m gp, which is not nearly worth it. Anyway you could get the same xp rates as willows but more profit if you were to use the parcel service or duel rings/house teleports to bank teaks at Tai Bwo Wannai. Also, when I was chopping eucalyptus logs, I was getting almost the same experience, but with something like 90k gp/hr profit. Willows are definitely not an efficient option for woodcutting. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalksmith Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 the hide bit for thieving section isn't done right :S but otherwise brilliant guide 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiophobus Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 56k as an experience per hour for ape atoll is quite a stretch. That might be the absolute max experience per hour you could ever get there, but I really doubt it's that much. And barely anyone could actually keep that up for an hour. Change it to 50k, that's a lot more accurate, even that requires a fair amount of focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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