gohankaiy Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 At least in terms of Pikachu it's not his projectiles they punk about. It's about me "spamming" thunder and His down A smash. Not my fault they can't figure a way not to get caught. As for Diddy kong, (except for Kent who pwns my diddy on a regular basis whenever I play) Everyone Punks about me bananaspamming. Oh thats not fair. Lies. It is fair. A good diddy kong user will control the battlefield with his bananas. It's not like they're unstoppable. You can grab them as well. And it's only 2 ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohankaiy Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I was going to join you and bun's battle at 2:00 this morning but you didnt let me in :o I know :wall: I usually rush into battle and I didnt see anyone post on here, so I wasn't expecting someone to join. I clicked No by reaction. Sorry =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorLepRecon Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I was going to join you and bun's battle at 2:00 this morning but you didnt let me in :o I know :wall: I usually rush into battle and I didnt see anyone post on here, so I wasn't expecting someone to join. I clicked No by reaction. Sorry =/ Yeah my computer is two floors above my T.V. with my wii on it, and in the middle of the night I wasn't going to go all the way upstairs and maybe wake someone up, so I just checked to see if anyone was on. I was so happy there was a battle going of too :cry: But w/e. It's all good. : Forum Updates & Suggestions <------ Let your voice be heard!Forum Games <------- Coolest place on Tip.ItTip.It Forum Rules <------- Read them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohankaiy Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Next time. Promise. We only played like 3 or 4 after you tried anyways. I was dead tired. I'm up for one in 20 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorLepRecon Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Sure, I'll head down then. :) Forum Updates & Suggestions <------ Let your voice be heard!Forum Games <------- Coolest place on Tip.ItTip.It Forum Rules <------- Read them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Good morning. ;) At least in terms of Pikachu it's not his projectiles they punk about. It's about me "spamming" thunder and His down A smash. Not my fault they can't figure a way not to get caught. As for Diddy kong, (except for Kent who pwns my diddy on a regular basis whenever I play) Everyone Punks about me bananaspamming. Oh thats not fair. Lies. It is fair. A good diddy kong user will control the battlefield with his bananas. It's not like they're unstoppable. You can grab them as well. And it's only 2 ffs. I had the same problem with my Diddy and bananas. :XD: At least in terms of Pikachu it's not his projectiles they punk about. It's about me "spamming" thunder and His down A smash. Not my fault they can't figure a way not to get caught. As for Diddy kong, (except for Kent who pwns my diddy on a regular basis whenever I play) Everyone Punks about me bananaspamming. Oh thats not fair. Lies. It is fair. A good diddy kong user will control the battlefield with his bananas. It's not like they're unstoppable. You can grab them as well. And it's only 2 ffs. Thunder "spamming" isn't spamming... it's not as if your doing it every time, your doing it when the opponent is directly verticle to you. Secondly, I don't mind spamming. With spamming, you can only have a limited amount of skill, never being able to become "good." I'll read your article later. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Playing To Win: http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_ ... nPart1.htm Best article about it, the entire site though pwns. -- @Kent, including spamming in your play style, like spamming certain grenades isn't going to hinder your ability to play. Just because you always spam doesn't mean you won't become good, you'll become pretty good with spamming and learn counters to people trying to counter your spamming. IE; They try and do a work around to stop your spamming, you know this, and thus counter their counter. Thus you've become a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohankaiy Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 YES! I've been looking for that article for ages. Thank you. I wrote my article based on that one, and mixed with personal experience. I've got to say as corny as it may sound, that article changed my video gaming concept entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohankaiy Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 rooms up for anyone who wants to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I wrote my article based on that one, and mixed with personal experience. I've got to say as corny as it may sound, that article changed my video gaming concept entirely It really made me see how idiotic it was to have player-made rules in a game, or chose moves that shouldn't be done even though they help you. Honestly, if using a broken character makes you win, good job, I'm not complaining. If spamming an invincible move in a game makes you win, good job. If abusing 'lag' or graphical glitches/animation effects, good job. However sooner or later someone will find a way around them, sooner or later you'll need to move on to something else to make yourself win. And obviously Kent is a good example. He's got like 3+ characters he could beat anyone here with, and not including Snake or Meta Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I wrote my article based on that one, and mixed with personal experience. I've got to say as corny as it may sound, that article changed my video gaming concept entirely It really made me see how idiotic it was to have player-made rules in a game, or chose moves that shouldn't be done even though they help you. Honestly, if using a broken character makes you win, good job, I'm not complaining. If spamming an invincible move in a game makes you win, good job. If abusing 'lag' or graphical glitches/animation effects, good job. However sooner or later someone will find a way around them, sooner or later you'll need to move on to something else to make yourself win. And obviously Kent is a good example. He's got like 3+ characters he could beat anyone here with, and not including Snake or Meta Knight. Skull bash is an extremely sucky move anyways... The ONE and ONLY extremely spammable yet high potential attack in my opinion is Metaknight's Mach tornado. @Kent, including spamming in your play style, like spamming certain grenades isn't going to hinder your ability to play. Just because you always spam doesn't mean you won't become good, you'll become pretty good with spamming and learn counters to people trying to counter your spamming. If your using a tactic to help your spamming, such as down b on Snake or ftilt when they come close, is that really spamming? [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 If your using a tactic to help your spamming, such as down b on Snake or ftilt when they come close, is that really spamming? Well if you're spamming, and they try to counter your spamming, but you know how to counter their counter, then yes it is spamming, just spamming properly in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 If your using a tactic to help your spamming, such as down b on Snake or ftilt when they come close, is that really spamming? Well if you're spamming, and they try to counter your spamming, but you know how to counter their counter, then yes it is spamming, just spamming properly in my mind. So your telling me using all of attacks in Snakes aresnal is considered spamming if you do one move more than the rest? Without using it in succession? Isn't that the definition of spamming? [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 15 Down B's from Pikachu Vs 15 Grenades from Snake. All in a row, with minor moves in between. Technically it's spamming. Anything wrong with it? Nope. Honestly, doing things 6 times, to me is spamming, on any character. Or because grenades aren't as annoying as pikachus down B it's not counted as spamming? 6 grenades, or 6 pk thunders? I'm just counting moves, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Geez, maybe you guys should learn what Spam is. Stupid Pointless Annoying Move Spamming is only spamming if you do it mindlessly, for example, just throw Snake's grenades without any angle change, just using Thunder Jolt without any change in momentum, etc. Spamming isn't when you actually use it to forward your plan, as Kent's Snake does to play defensively, and when the opponent is sick of the grenades, approaches closer. I spam Pikachu's Thunder Jolt, which I've named the Non-Directional Laser (I tend to taunt out my attacks before using them :oops: ) but its not like I just sit there pressing B all day, I incorporate the Jolts into my Pikachu mindgames and combos. SPAM IS NOT SPAM IF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN WITH IT :!: The Complete MTA Handbook | Runecrafting Pouch Analysis | Mobilizing Armies Locator Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 15 Down B's from Pikachu Vs 15 Grenades from Snake. All in a row, with minor moves in between. Technically it's spamming. Anything wrong with it? Nope. Honestly, doing things 6 times, to me is spamming, on any character. Or because grenades aren't as annoying as pikachus down B it's not counted as spamming? 6 grenades, or 6 pk thunders? I'm just counting moves, nothing else. Why complain about "spamming" if it is easily deflected? Either outcamp Snake (hard, but doable) or approach him (easy) or throw the grenades back (easy). Secondly, I wouldn't consider doing a move in succession spamming anyways. As it is the opponents fault for not taking the actions required to counter the spam. If they don't know how, they are noobs and don't deserve to complain. (... :lol:) I would, however, consider fox doing his laser, then running around hyrule... Gohan, I joined your forums to post on some topics I find interesting. SPAM IS NOT SPAM IF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN WITH IT Although not technically true, I agree and people should stop complaining.... [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohankaiy Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 mmm It's funny. People say spamming. For the most part it isnt a move done in sucession, but rather just doing a move...a lot. Thats what I mostly hear directed towards me. The plan is to take your opponents life away. one way or another. there is no unbeatable invincible flawless move. everything has its flaws some, less than others. Even with my hatred towards Kirbyciding and Bowserciding it is a legit move and I should be a big enough player to stop punking and play around it. Im just not...at least with diddy kong ;) Cant kirbycide The Pika. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohankaiy Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Thanx Kent. It means a lot for the help =]. Great games Logan. Sorry for the thunder spam. I got a little carried away when i realized you couldnt block it :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorLepRecon Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Thanx Kent. It means a lot for the help =]. Great games Logan. Sorry for the thunder spam. I got a little carried away when i realized you couldnt block it :oops: I'm alright with the thunder spam, I just gotta be Lucas so I can stop you from using it ;) Those were good matches on the ones I wasn't fooling around on(i.e. ganondorf lol :lol: ) I'm glad I was able to beat you a few times \ I look forward to more. Forum Updates & Suggestions <------ Let your voice be heard!Forum Games <------- Coolest place on Tip.ItTip.It Forum Rules <------- Read them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohankaiy Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 heh. I'm not worried about Ness or Lucas's healer because when I see them I know I can't spam it. It might be even better for me cuz thunder, and the thundershock become less used, making it a bit more unpredictable and I start focusing on hitting you physically. I still caught you with thunder once or twice ;) I just dont mess with Fox or Falco. RAWR. They reflect it down to me :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohankaiy Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I hope for more too. I need to avenge the death of my Spamming Pika :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Cant kirbycide The Pika. We'll see about that when we fight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohankaiy Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Cant kirbycide The Pika. We'll see about that when we fight... Well I had an expert Kirbycider before. He couldn't do it without suiciding. It was still hard for him to get with all the thunders and T-Shocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 mmm It's funny. People say spamming. For the most part it isnt a move done in sucession, but rather just doing a move...a lot. Thats what I mostly hear directed towards me. The plan is to take your opponents life away. one way or another. there is no unbeatable invincible flawless move. everything has its flaws some, less than others. Even with my hatred towards Kirbyciding and Bowserciding it is a legit move and I should be a big enough player to stop punking and play around it. Im just not...at least with diddy kong ;) Cant kirbycide The Pika. Bowserside doesn't work if you know how to beat it....unless they have 70%+ on you, which would benefit you... [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Won't stop me from trying. =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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