Punitive_D Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 One of my threads that got deleted debated the best setup for aberrant specters -- salve (e) with prayer or fury with food. I think that salve (e) with prayer won that debate, but the new slayer helm changes all that. It seems clear now (to me, anyway) that a slayer helm with a fury is a better setup now. In fact, the salve (e) may now be obsolete. I thought it might be interesting to discuss what other common slayer setups have been changed by the availability of the new slayer helm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat666 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Salve and Black Mask do not stack so a fury would be better. Salve is now only useful for non-slayer training. Trust the Gene Genie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartme Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Basically, all slayer setups that utilized salve ammy's need to be replaced with the slayer mask + fury/ glory/ strenght ammy (depending on cost and training). Since spectres usually required prayer, the added prayer bonus of fury's or glory's will be a big welcome. Also, you could consider unholy symbols if you really want to save those prayer points. Most other salve tasks will remain the same. Recap, slayer mask + fury = more damage and more defense and slightly more prayer. This makes players stronger (attack) and tougher (defense). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flobberdude Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Forgive me for being stupid, but doesn't the slayer helm boost by 15% and the salve ammy (e) by 20%? Is it worth giving up that 5% bonus for a bit of extra stats? I don't know if it is, but I wanted to make sure I had my facts correct. Proud member of the Tal Shiar AllianceGoals: Quest cape, skill range 10 or less, all stats above 60. (Although yes, I am aware that in order to do the first two, I have to do the third.)----I am sick and tired of people asking me to put stuff in my signature. If you agree with me, do NOT put this in your signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Salve (e) always would beat the black mask, but for things such as Aberrant Spectres were no black mask could be worn you had no choice, but now with the Slayer helmet you have a choice, but Slayer helmet + Fury will beat Salve(e). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Forgive me for being smart, but doesn't the slayer helm boost by 15% and the salve ammy (e) by 20%? Is it worth giving up that 5% bonus for a bit of extra stats? I don't know if it is, but I wanted to make sure I had my facts correct. fix'd for ya. the debate about the extra stats is kind of... moot. you need no defensive stats, but the attack stats might be worth it. as for the prayer stats, glory and salve are the same +3 prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logdotzip Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 We're not talking about a glory amulet. We're talking about a fury. my youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Forgive me for being smart, but doesn't the slayer helm boost by 15% and the salve ammy (e) by 20%? Is it worth giving up that 5% bonus for a bit of extra stats? I don't know if it is, but I wanted to make sure I had my facts correct. fix'd for ya. the debate about the extra stats is kind of... moot. you need no defensive stats, but the attack stats might be worth it. as for the prayer stats, glory and salve are the same +3 prayer This is what I was thinking, and a Fury only adds 2 prayer bonus points. The limiting factor at spectres is usually inventory space, not prayer points(at least for me) and that's with only picking up valuable herbs(no cadantines or other such rubbish). Is 10 slash bonus worth more than 20% accuracy? I'm guessing that it is not, but I don't know how exactly those percentages and bonuses effect the damage you do.... On second thought, the question would be whether 5% extra bonus from salve over helm would be better than 10 slash bonus...but again, I don't know. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Yep, Salve (e) is now only useful for non-Slayer combat. Personally I think that they should combine incompletely, so instead of just adding them to get 35%, it should be 25%. Then the salve (e) would be back in business. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screechingmu Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Karils, monkfish, and bunyip is better and cheaper then prayer tbh. My Guide to Killing Green Dragon Autoers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Yep, Salve (e) is now only useful for non-Slayer combat. Personally I think that they should combine incompletely, so instead of just adding them to get 35%, it should be 25%. Then the salve (e) would be back in business. Exactly what I think. I feel like I wasted so much time completing Haunted Mine and Tarn's Lair. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Yep, Salve (e) is now only useful for non-Slayer combat. Personally I think that they should combine incompletely, so instead of just adding them to get 35%, it should be 25%. Then the salve (e) would be back in business. Exactly what I think. I feel like I wasted so much time completing Haunted Mine and Tarn's Lair. And I don't know whether I should bother doing Tarn's Lair in the future. Jagex does have some bright ideas when it comes to inventing new items, but they don't think about its effect on the item it replaces. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUMINATOR17 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 According to the tipit calculator they are roughly the same, helm and fury, compared to just salve (e). Either way, not too much has changed actual gear set up wise, I do have a slightly more beefed up defensive set up now for piety tasks thanks to the extra 20 defense boost of the new slayer helm. :mrgreen: CLICK - 770th to 99 SLAYER 2/4/08 - 204th to 99 Summoning 7/1/08 CLICK[Hide=List of Drops That I haven't updated in Years but want to keep in my Sig anyways...]VISAGE DROP - 12/06/073 Duo Sara Hilts, 3 Duo Arma Hilts, 2 Trio Arma Hilts.Dark Bows: (11) Dragon Boots: (50!)Whip Drops: (42!!!) Dragon Drops: (90+!!!!!) 2 D CHAINS!, 3 D Axe, 8 D meds, 7 left halfs, 7 D legs, 6 skirts, 8 Spears[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodewijk66 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 will keep my setup the same and change nosepeg to slayer helmet; slayer helmet - salve (e) - prayer pots Lode's Steel Smithing Guide! With Pictures *3.5K+ VIEWS*The Guide to DUO maging @ Dk's - HD pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aneron Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Karils, monkfish, and bunyip is better and cheaper then prayer tbh. Not when cannoning new specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipyhop00 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 New abberants own You dont even need the new mask to cannon there, you just need balls :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhwjpDQaug8 And for ALOT of tasks ive skipped the mask/slayer helmet and use neitinort(charged), with a giant ent its almost more effective than a cannon (awsome for chaos tunnels) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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