Why so quiet?

[chaosfox]

I got a bit bored playing World of Warcraft, since there is no solo endgame experience in that game (thats another discussion for another day). Since i desired some solo action, I thought I would re-activate my old Runescape account and jump back into the grind.

 

 

 

 

 

My login encountered some lets say......shocking things.

 

 

 

 

 

A 3000 gold trade cap? WHAT?! Its too eliminate real world trading and make the game less fun at the same time, a win-win I guess. There is the GE (WoW's auction house, gratz on originality), but that isnt the same as finding and trading, making deals on the fly, and having a player to player economy. I think I speak for alot of RS players when I say give is Real World Trading, its an evil we can live with to eliminate the dreaded cap.

 

 

 

 

 

Quickchat? Huh? I cant type? Why is everyone so quiet? Seriously, what is going on here, is it just a free-world thing, you cant type your own chat anymore? Please tell me my screen is bugged or something, cause I can no longer interact with other players.

 

 

 

 

 

PKing no longer exists? Soooooooo no PvP? Meh, Runescape was always more of a PvE game anyway, not a big loss. Unless you like fun, then your screwed.

 

 

 

 

 

Why is my toon doing that odd movement? New animations? I asked for a humaniod not a noodle bieng tossed around on a seafaring vessel. When exactly did the noodle people invade Varrock?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im gonna flee back to WoW while I can still recognize an MMO.

[pryomancer]

Loads of MMO's have a feature like the Grand Exchange, WoW was NOT the originator of that, therefore JaGEx did not copy them.

 

 

 

This has been discussed so many times, people have come back to RuneScape and found it changed.

 

 

 

If you're just coming to tell us how you don't like RuneScape and you're going back to World of Warcraft, then why post at all.

[SupportMage]

If you're younger than 13 or muted you don't get to talk freely.

[Zox]

It's still fun, just in a different way.

[BabyPunchers]

 

 

 

A 3000 gold trade cap? WHAT?! Its too eliminate real world trading and make the game less fun at the same time, a win-win I guess. There is the GE (WoW's auction house, gratz on originality), but that isnt the same as finding and trading, making deals on the fly, and having a player to player economy. I think I speak for alot of RS players when I say give is Real World Trading, its an evil we can live with to eliminate the dreaded cap.

 

 

 

You don't speak for every player,don't say you do, and the mature players will tell you that we'd rather have the trade cap than real world trading.

 

 

 

 

 

Quickchat? Huh? I cant type? Why is everyone so quiet? Seriously, what is going on here, is it just a free-world thing, you cant type your own chat anymore? Please tell me my screen is bugged or something, cause I can no longer interact with other players.

 

 

 

Then you are under 13, and to stop people from asking for your information they inputted this for pre-pubescent children. This doesn't effect people over 13.

 

 

 

 

 

PKing no longer exists? Soooooooo no PvP? Meh, Runescape was always more of a PvE game anyway, not a big loss. Unless you like fun, then your screwed.

 

 

 

Really? because it seems that Runescape is only growing and making more money. Less than 10% of the game was the wilderness and runescape still keeps a steady 180k-200k players a day.

 

 

 

 

 

Why is my toon doing that odd movement? New animations? I asked for a humaniod not a noodle bieng tossed around on a seafaring vessel. When exactly did the noodle people invade Varrock?

 

 

 

Better graphics. The majority like them, and the small amount of people that don't doesn't even compare to the ones that do like them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im gonna flee back to WoW while I can still recognize an MMO.

 

 

 

Your arguments are destroyed.

[highlanders]

I'll have to agree with the noodle-people thing :P We DO look like noodles :ohnoes:

[RU_Insane]

@Robin

 

 

 

Actually I'd say the amount of people that dislike the changing of the graphics are comparable with the people that do like them. What is so attractive about your character walking like a wet noodle/constipated idiot? I can see my character run with his hands flailing behind him....like some specially challenged person.

 

 

 

But I fully agree with your other points.

 

 

 

To add to them:

 

 

 

@ Chaos:

 

 

 

Browse the news archived dated to December 10, 2007 and you'll see more in depth why they made those changes to the game.

 

 

 

Btw, the 3000 gold cap fluctuates, over a 15 minute period depending if you traded any items resulting in a wealth gain/loss. You can increase the cap up yo 30,000gp by doing more quests if you are P2P but for F2P it is always 3,000. I take it since you don't know much about the cap it seems you are F2p.

 

 

 

You say RWT is a "dreaded evil" but then you say we can live with it. Erm, no that is a contradiction, we wouldn't be able to live with it because if RWT was prolonged beyond Dec. 10 2007 Jagex would be bankrupt, which is worse than the game changes that they implemented to stop RWT.

 

 

 

Quick-chat: As Robin says if you are under 13 you won't be able to speak freely for online safety reasons. This is also if you are in a QC world.

 

 

 

And for the record, PK'ing still does exist. Just not the way you knew it. It has been altered for reasons against RWT. The ranters from RSOF and the like complain that the Wildy was removed when in fact to this day the Wilderness ditch is still clearly visible on the RuneScape World Map.

[BabyPunchers]

@Robin

 

 

 

Actually I'd say the amount of people that dislike the changing of the graphics are comparable with the people that do like them. What is so attractive about your character walking like a wet noodle/constipated idiot? I can see my character run with his hands flailing behind him....like some specially challenged person.

 

 

 

Well i can somewhat agree. I guess it depends on where you look for those opinions. I personally see that more people like than hate the updates. But nevertheless, it is useless to rant about them. Jagex spent a long time on this update and they won't change it back even if half the people in rs don't like it. One thing that they should do is bring back the old graphics in the form of a new detail level. Although i'm sure there are complications that could arise from doing that.

[RU_Insane]

@Robin

 

 

 

Actually I'd say the amount of people that dislike the changing of the graphics are comparable with the people that do like them. What is so attractive about your character walking like a wet noodle/constipated idiot? I can see my character run with his hands flailing behind him....like some specially challenged person.

 

 

 

Well i can somewhat agree. I guess it depends on where you look for those opinions. I personally see that more people like than hate the updates. But nevertheless, it is useless to rant about them. Jagex spent a long time on this update and they won't change it back even if half the people in rs don't like it. One thing that they should do is bring back the old graphics in the form of a new detail level. Although i'm sure there are complications that could arise from doing that.

 

 

 

I agree with you bringing back the old graphics, I am somewhat of a veteran (Almost 3 years of playing) and I have gotten just so used to the old graphics. But like you say, it is useless to rant now. The best sort of "ranting" people can do is to give suggestions on how Jagex can improve the new HD update in the RSOF. :-/

[Leoo]

The only thing I can understand where your coming from is that you have would have to constantly use the Quick-chat before you turn 13 (seeing that you are already going back to WoW and that you must be under 13 (or you could of created the account with a false DoB), I don't like the Quick-chat system myself.

 

 

 

But its kind of pointless posting on a Pro-RuneScape Fansite were people play RuneScape over games such as Wow, and then telling us you returning to WoW. Majority of this forum play RuneScape as there first MMORPG (like a first language, but a game instead). So all I could say to you is do not waste your time.

[chaosfox]

 

 

 

A 3000 gold trade cap? WHAT?! Its too eliminate real world trading and make the game less fun at the same time, a win-win I guess. There is the GE (WoW's auction house, gratz on originality), but that isnt the same as finding and trading, making deals on the fly, and having a player to player economy. I think I speak for alot of RS players when I say give is Real World Trading, its an evil we can live with to eliminate the dreaded cap.

 

 

 

You don't speak for every player,don't say you do, and the mature players will tell you that we'd rather have the trade cap than real world trading.

 

 

 

Never said spoke for every player (notice the highlight), and I dont think its right that your calling all opposition to the trade cap immature.

 

 

 

 

 

Quickchat? Huh? I cant type? Why is everyone so quiet? Seriously, what is going on here, is it just a free-world thing, you cant type your own chat anymore? Please tell me my screen is bugged or something, cause I can no longer interact with other players.

 

 

 

Then you are under 13, and to stop people from asking for your information they inputted this for pre-pubescent children. This doesn't effect people over 13.

 

 

 

Actually I'm not under 13, my account was apparently used by someone in my absence, and they racked up quite a few offenses i'm currently appealing.

 

 

 

 

 

PKing no longer exists? Soooooooo no PvP? Meh, Runescape was always more of a PvE game anyway, not a big loss. Unless you like fun, then your screwed.

 

 

 

Really? because it seems that Runescape is only growing and making more money. Less than 10% of the game was the wilderness and runescape still keeps a steady 180k-200k players a day.

 

 

 

 

 

I said it was more PvE then PvP, thanks for re-stating my fact. Fact is PvP was one of the more fun things to do at a high level, i would ahrdly call my arguement 'destroyed'.

 

 

 

Why is my toon doing that odd movement? New animations? I asked for a humaniod not a noodle bieng tossed around on a seafaring vessel. When exactly did the noodle people invade Varrock?

 

 

 

Better graphics. The majority like them, and the small amount of people that don't doesn't even compare to the ones that do like them.

 

 

 

 

 

Thats just plain wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im gonna flee back to WoW while I can still recognize an MMO.

 

 

 

My arguments are destroyed.

[The Observer]

Player interaction that caused inbalanced trades were removed because of Real World Item Trading. In order to get the gold, macroers used stolen credit cards to pay for memberships. Imagine all of the macroers in RuneScape. Jagex was getting in trouble for credit card fraud from the government and were having multiple lawsuits put against them. If they weren't going to go bankrupt, they could have been shut down.

 

 

 

As for Quick Chat, that was implemented mainly for muted people and people who spammed "a q p w" all the time chats.

 

 

 

And as for the Grand Exchange, they didn't steal it off of World of Warcraft. World of Warcraft didn't invent auction houses in the world. Auction houses were invented way before computers I'm afraid.

 

 

 

The graphics are still in beta stage. So be patient. They will be fixed and changed to the community's liking.

[chaosfox]

@Robin

 

 

 

Actually I'd say the amount of people that dislike the changing of the graphics are comparable with the people that do like them. What is so attractive about your character walking like a wet noodle/constipated idiot? I can see my character run with his hands flailing behind him....like some specially challenged person.

 

 

 

But I fully agree with your other points.

 

 

 

To add to them:

 

 

 

@ Chaos:

 

 

 

Browse the news archived dated to December 10, 2007 and you'll see more in depth why they made those changes to the game.

 

 

 

Btw, the 3000 gold cap fluctuates, over a 15 minute period depending if you traded any items resulting in a wealth gain/loss. You can increase the cap up yo 30,000gp by doing more quests if you are P2P but for F2P it is always 3,000. I take it since you don't know much about the cap it seems you are F2p.

 

 

 

You say RWT is a "dreaded evil" but then you say we can live with it. Erm, no that is a contradiction, we wouldn't be able to live with it because if RWT was prolonged beyond Dec. 10 2007 Jagex would be bankrupt, which is worse than the game changes that they implemented to stop RWT.

 

 

 

Quick-chat: As Robin says if you are under 13 you won't be able to speak freely for online safety reasons. This is also if you are in a QC world.

 

 

 

And for the record, PK'ing still does exist. Just not the way you knew it. It has been altered for reasons against RWT. The ranters from RSOF and the like complain that the Wildy was removed when in fact to this day the Wilderness ditch is still clearly visible on the RuneScape World Map.

 

 

 

 

 

All evils must be lived with to some extent, I would hardly call it a contradiction. The majority of players do not buy their gold, and so while a threat to the game, I would hardly see it policed to this extent since its major fallout is player QQ. My account is currently f2p until I re-activate my membership, but 30k is still a trade cap, and is innappropriate to force on members.

 

 

 

The quickchat issue is that my account was used without my knowledge, and whoever was using it had racked up many Rule 1 offenses, my account is currently locked while i appeal.

 

 

 

PvP is constricted, it doesnt have the same feel it used too, just feels.....wrong.

[The Observer]

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All evils must be lived with to some extent, I would hardly call it a contradiction. The majority of players do not buy their gold, and so while a threat to the game, I would hardly see it policed to this extent since its major fallout is player QQ. My account is currently f2p until I re-activate my membership, but 30k is still a trade cap, and is innappropriate to force on members.

 

 

 

The quickchat issue is that my account was used without my knowledge, and whoever was using it had racked up many Rule 1 offenses, my account is currently locked while i appeal.

 

 

 

PvP is constricted, it doesnt have the same feel it used too, just feels.....wrong.

 

 

 

Giving a higher trade cap will just cause real world item traders to steal more credit cards and escalate the problem even further. Besides, even if the majority didn't buy their gold, a lot of the newer and younger players decided to buy their gold instead of working for it. So, blame them, not Jagex.

[BabyPunchers]

 

 

 

A 3000 gold trade cap? WHAT?! Its too eliminate real world trading and make the game less fun at the same time, a win-win I guess. There is the GE (WoW's auction house, gratz on originality), but that isnt the same as finding and trading, making deals on the fly, and having a player to player economy. I think I speak for alot of RS players when I say give is Real World Trading, its an evil we can live with to eliminate the dreaded cap.

 

 

 

You don't speak for every player,don't say you do, and the mature players will tell you that we'd rather have the trade cap than real world trading.

 

 

 

Never said spoke for every player (notice the highlight), and I dont think its right that your calling all opposition to the trade cap immature.

 

 

 

Either way, you don't speak for "a lot" of players. You speak for yourself. This update was needed. It is not only useless to whine about it, but plain stupid. And it's really hard to call people that still whine about updates 7 months ago knowing that there is no way it'll come back mature.

 

 

 

 

 

Quickchat? Huh? I cant type? Why is everyone so quiet? Seriously, what is going on here, is it just a free-world thing, you cant type your own chat anymore? Please tell me my screen is bugged or something, cause I can no longer interact with other players.

 

 

 

Then you are under 13, and to stop people from asking for your information they inputted this for pre-pubescent children. This doesn't effect people over 13.

 

 

 

Actually I'm not under 13, my account was apparently used by someone in my absence, and they racked up quite a few offenses i'm currently appealing.

 

 

 

Then neither of us are wrong here.

 

 

 

PKing no longer exists? Soooooooo no PvP? Meh, Runescape was always more of a PvE game anyway, not a big loss. Unless you like fun, then your screwed.

 

 

 

Really? because it seems that Runescape is only growing and making more money. Less than 10% of the game was the wilderness and runescape still keeps a steady 180k-200k players a day.

 

 

 

 

 

I said it was more PvE then PvP, thanks for re-stating my fact. Fact is PvP was one of the more fun things to do at a high level, i would ahrdly call my arguement 'destroyed'.

 

 

 

No, that is not fact. That is opinion. If you would kindly look at the bolded word. I still have have a lot fun at level 124. To me your argument is destroyed. Well, better yet, illogical.

 

 

 

Why is my toon doing that odd movement? New animations? I asked for a humaniod not a noodle bieng tossed around on a seafaring vessel. When exactly did the noodle people invade Varrock?

 

 

 

Better graphics. The majority like them, and the small amount of people that don't doesn't even compare to the ones that do like them.

 

 

 

 

 

Thats just plain wrong.

 

 

 

Make an argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im gonna flee back to WoW while I can still recognize an MMO.

 

 

 

Your arguments are destroyed.

[TechHead7890]

I'm the hacker of your account, the password was password, hahaha no wonder you got h4xx0rd!!111!!

 

 

 

[/sarcasm]

 

 

 

:shame: You password wasn't g38gvr, so get something LIKE that. Don't use g38gvr, or you'll get hacked...

 

 

 

Also, Try to have Fort Knox-like Anti virus systems up. If you don't have those you'll get keylogged.

 

 

 

Don't share your account with anyone, or let anyone look at your keyboard while you type in the password.

 

 

 

Also, QuickChat is a blessing for you. Before you had to do the jig and wave like a real mime to talk to people. Now you have rudimentary speaking.

 

 

 

BTW, I prefer the trade limit to RWTs, although you do speak for a load of people who did drop trades etc.. Although it would have been fun to kill Green Dragon Autoers. We needed to drop the autos to help the economy.

 

 

 

Final Comment: RobinHoodie has obliterated your argument. Surrender or we'll provide him artillery support.

[Corvus]

Unless you like fun, then your screwed.

 

 

 

 

 

Who doesn't like having fun? and if you weren't playing to have fun What is the point of playing games in the first place, I'm sure you could go read a dictionary to get all your non-fun needs alot easier?

 

 

 

But anyways Robinhoodie's arguements make sense when yours don't make sense when you think them through. Also the only person responsible for you only being able to use quick chat is yourself for not keeping your account secure so don't go complaining to others about it

[LordJakal]

I got a bit bored playing World of Warcraft, since there is no solo endgame experience in that game (thats another discussion for another day). Since i desired some solo action, I thought I would re-activate my old Runescape account and jump back into the grind.

 

 

 

 

 

My login encountered some lets say......shocking things.

 

 

 

 

 

A 3000 gold trade cap? WHAT?! Its too eliminate real world trading and make the game less fun at the same time, a win-win I guess. There is the GE (WoW's auction house, gratz on originality), but that isnt the same as finding and trading, making deals on the fly, and having a player to player economy. I think I speak for alot of RS players when I say give is Real World Trading, its an evil we can live with to eliminate the dreaded cap.

 

 

 

 

 

Quickchat? Huh? I cant type? Why is everyone so quiet? Seriously, what is going on here, is it just a free-world thing, you cant type your own chat anymore? Please tell me my screen is bugged or something, cause I can no longer interact with other players.

 

 

 

 

 

PKing no longer exists? Soooooooo no PvP? Meh, Runescape was always more of a PvE game anyway, not a big loss. Unless you like fun, then your screwed.

 

 

 

 

 

Why is my toon doing that odd movement? New animations? I asked for a humaniod not a noodle bieng tossed around on a seafaring vessel. When exactly did the noodle people invade Varrock?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im gonna flee back to WoW while I can still recognize an MMO.

 

:lol:

 

lol, no one even cares about people who come here to say how crappy runescape is. :roll:

[Albel]

 

Final Comment: RobinHoodie has obliterated your argument. Surrender or we'll provide him artillery support.

 

Agreed :lol:

 

This is how i look at it. Runescape was my frist, and at the moment my only MMORPG. Of course there are some problems with it, but every game has its problems. Also, it is a simple game, yet I can still loads of fun in Clan chats, or skilling with friends. The trade rule(Just as many people have said) was used to get rid RWT. If that does not make the game fun anymore, then there is no point playing the game then. I find that making my money would better then buying off someone eles.

 

 

 

Quickchat is cool, never use it but if i do get muted(0 Black marks :thumbsup: ), it will be nice to have for me.

 

 

 

Have to agree with you on Pking and PvP. Never liked it, was never good at it. Ive always had fun grinding at skills.

 

 

 

The animations to the characters are better then what they used to be, at least thast what i think. And 99.9% of my friends like the new graphics compared to the old ones. Just got to give it time Jagex works on it.

 

 

 

Its cool that someone from WoW came on the forums and talked what it is like logging back in for the frist time in long time.

 

But the community here is Pro-runescape, I dont know how they are about WoW but I for one would never touch WoW.

 

So thats how i fell about it...

 

-Haseo

[Hevendor_Guy]

Run while you're still able. I completely agree with you. Know why Bounty Hunter's a crater? A sick reminder of the void that the removal of PKing and staking left behind, except far too small.

 

 

 

And, Robinhoodie, picking apart someone's opinion an argument does not make. State your case, don't nitpick at each and every word of his post :roll:

[Robert_de_Sable]

I got a bit bored playing World of Warcraft, since there is no solo endgame experience in that game (thats another discussion for another day). Since i desired some solo action, I thought I would re-activate my old Runescape account and jump back into the grind.

 

 

 

 

 

My login encountered some lets say......shocking things.

 

 

 

 

 

A 3000 gold trade cap? WHAT?! Its too eliminate real world trading and make the game less fun at the same time, a win-win I guess. There is the GE (WoW's auction house, gratz on originality), but that isnt the same as finding and trading, making deals on the fly, and having a player to player economy. I think I speak for alot of RS players when I say give is Real World Trading, its an evil we can live with to eliminate the dreaded cap.

 

 

 

 

 

Quickchat? Huh? I cant type? Why is everyone so quiet? Seriously, what is going on here, is it just a free-world thing, you cant type your own chat anymore? Please tell me my screen is bugged or something, cause I can no longer interact with other players.

 

 

 

 

 

PKing no longer exists? Soooooooo no PvP? Meh, Runescape was always more of a PvE game anyway, not a big loss. Unless you like fun, then your screwed.

 

 

 

 

 

Why is my toon doing that odd movement? New animations? I asked for a humaniod not a noodle bieng tossed around on a seafaring vessel. When exactly did the noodle people invade Varrock?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im gonna flee back to WoW while I can still recognize an MMO.

 

My apologies; my previous :statement" was immature. But still, I've had enough of this argument.

[Robert_de_Sable]

Run while you're still able. I completely agree with you. Know why Bounty Hunter's a crater? A sick reminder of the void that the removal of PKing and staking left behind, except far too small.

 

 

 

And, Robinhoodie, picking apart someone's opinion an argument does not make. State your case, don't nitpick at each and every word of his post :roll:

 

I do apologize for what could well be a double post.

 

You [bleep]ing moron, had Jagex kept the wilderness and staking there WOULD BE NO RUNESCAPE. God....

[Hevendor_Guy]

I got a bit bored playing World of Warcraft, since there is no solo endgame experience in that game (thats another discussion for another day). Since i desired some solo action, I thought I would re-activate my old Runescape account and jump back into the grind.

 

 

 

 

 

My login encountered some lets say......shocking things.

 

 

 

 

 

A 3000 gold trade cap? WHAT?! Its too eliminate real world trading and make the game less fun at the same time, a win-win I guess. There is the GE (WoW's auction house, gratz on originality), but that isnt the same as finding and trading, making deals on the fly, and having a player to player economy. I think I speak for alot of RS players when I say give is Real World Trading, its an evil we can live with to eliminate the dreaded cap.

 

 

 

 

 

Quickchat? Huh? I cant type? Why is everyone so quiet? Seriously, what is going on here, is it just a free-world thing, you cant type your own chat anymore? Please tell me my screen is bugged or something, cause I can no longer interact with other players.

 

 

 

 

 

PKing no longer exists? Soooooooo no PvP? Meh, Runescape was always more of a PvE game anyway, not a big loss. Unless you like fun, then your screwed.

 

 

 

 

 

Why is my toon doing that odd movement? New animations? I asked for a humaniod not a noodle bieng tossed around on a seafaring vessel. When exactly did the noodle people invade Varrock?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im gonna flee back to WoW while I can still recognize an MMO.

 

Wait.... quiet for a second..... HA! Farted!

 

What I just said was more intelligent than your post.

 

=D>

 

No, you're just a complete moron. Grow up and grow a pair before ever posting again.

 

 

 

As for the original poster, I agree with most of your points. But the bashing of the new graphics I can't agree with. A browser-based game is finally catching up to WoW now; RS looks great.

[Hevendor_Guy]

Run while you're still able. I completely agree with you. Know why Bounty Hunter's a crater? A sick reminder of the void that the removal of PKing and staking left behind, except far too small.

 

 

 

And, Robinhoodie, picking apart someone's opinion an argument does not make. State your case, don't nitpick at each and every word of his post :roll:

 

I do apologize for what could well be a double post.

 

You [bleep] moron, had Jagex kept the wilderness and staking there WOULD BE NO RUNESCAPE. God....

 

 

 

And you know what? I'd probably like 6-12 more months of economical freedom and the old wilderness than living out the rest of my rs career without them. Also, learn to argue or debate, not throw insults. :roll:

 

 

 

Edit: Double post, edited to be worth another post.

[Robert_de_Sable]

Run while you're still able. I completely agree with you. Know why Bounty Hunter's a crater? A sick reminder of the void that the removal of PKing and staking left behind, except far too small.

 

 

 

And, Robinhoodie, picking apart someone's opinion an argument does not make. State your case, don't nitpick at each and every word of his post :roll:

 

I do apologize for what could well be a double post.

 

You [bleep] moron, had Jagex kept the wilderness and staking there WOULD BE NO RUNESCAPE. God....

 

 

 

And you know what? I'd probably like 6-12 more months of economical freedom and the old wilderness than living out the rest of my rs career without them. Also, learn to argue or debate, not throw insults. :roll:

 

Well, then speak for yourself. I personally am happy with the way RuneScape is right now, and I don't want it to end after another "6-12 months". And as for arguing or debating, there's nothing to debate. If Jagex hadn't done this, they would have lost RuneScape. Also, you haven't made a single argument or debate, so I wouldn't be talking.