thiesje Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Lately, tens of 'teams' have been created in the Dutch 'clanworld'. They're focussing on short prepare miniwars against other teams, but against clans aswell. Somehow, they manage to distract the people's attention from the clans. The teams' members are mostly people who are in an other clan, for example, they're in my clan and in about 2 other 'teams'. I'm not going to say that this will kill my clan, not by far, but this has got it's effects on my clan. The people who are in the teams care less about full out wars for example, they're less active on our forums. Also, it's kind of odd that some of my members are in 2 or more teams at the same time. I don't really see a difference between a clan and a 'team'. The only differences I see is that multi-clanning/'teaming' is allowed and that the leaders of the teams are mostly people who are not ranked in a clan. I can't really forbid my clan members to be in a team, most of them will probably leave for this reason. What's your view on teams? Animum debes mutare, non caelum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 There's teams all the time in Clan Wars. Of course, they won't be the same as clans as they don't all have food or the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiesje Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 The teams I'm speaking of are good organised teams with forums and memberlists. Some of the teams are better organised then clans, they can beat clans even with lower leveled members. Animum debes mutare, non caelum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_Fat1 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 VVV just stops ranked members joining teams. Proud Warlord of DragonwoodIf it's natural to kill, how come men have to go into training to learn how? ~ Joan Baez Rest in Peace 3xtermination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild_goat_14 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 'Team' sounds like a loophole word for 'Clan Wars Clan'. I don't really have a suggestion, it seems too late to just not allow it. I shall take my flock underneath my own wing, and kick them right the [bleep] out of the tree. If they were meant to fly, they won't break their necks on the concrete.So, what is 1.111... equal to?10/9. Please don't continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I know what you mean with these teams... Examples of this are teams for DK-ing, or GWD teams... I generally allow people in my clan to join or even create such teams, as long as they realise that TSA comes first in every respect... I also encourage them to try and recruit people form those teams into my clan... Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanctus_Petrus Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I don't like teams but it's kinda hard to stop people from joining them. We only got two members who belong to this team but they are high ranks and I don't think it's worth the clan fued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmyk Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I know of several teams, particularly those in which you have to live in a particular country to join. They're just meant for fun and used by people who wish to attend larger wars or have a greater amount of wars. They're pure enjoyment for those who enjoy clan wars and I have no problem with them as they don't fight clans but usually other teams instead. Proud Retired Council of The GladiatiorzClick here for our website - 110+ F2P Combat Requirements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zingy Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 It's quite ridiculous really. I don't mind the God Wars, Castle Wars, and PC teams, but when you come up with a warring team, that fights other clans, that's going too far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_troyus Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 "Teams".. Heh seems like a loophole to me The only reason they should be called teams is because they don't war. You get BH "Teams", boss hunting "Teams" but this is the first time i've heard of warring teams. Unless it is a team who specialise in something but occasionally war? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e_cLCibqSxk&fmt=18 -- Lord_Troyus - This is PvP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild_goat_14 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 "Teams".. Heh seems like a loophole to me The only reason they should be called teams is because they don't war. You get BH "Teams", boss hunting "Teams" but this is the first time i've heard of warring teams. Unless it is a team who specialise in something but occasionally war? If that's the case then they are a clan :? I shall take my flock underneath my own wing, and kick them right the [bleep] out of the tree. If they were meant to fly, they won't break their necks on the concrete.So, what is 1.111... equal to?10/9. Please don't continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiesje Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 "Teams".. Heh seems like a loophole to me The only reason they should be called teams is because they don't war. You get BH "Teams", boss hunting "Teams" but this is the first time i've heard of warring teams. Unless it is a team who specialise in something but occasionally war? If that's the case then they are a clan :? That's what I thought, but for some reason they don't want to be called 'clan'. Animum debes mutare, non caelum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild_goat_14 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 "Teams".. Heh seems like a loophole to me The only reason they should be called teams is because they don't war. You get BH "Teams", boss hunting "Teams" but this is the first time i've heard of warring teams. Unless it is a team who specialise in something but occasionally war? If that's the case then they are a clan :? That's what I thought, but for some reason they don't want to be called 'clan'. That's just so they can multi-clan. I honestly think that you should incorporate a team into your clan, so they can do all of this inside the clan. They obviously want to war more often. I shall take my flock underneath my own wing, and kick them right the [bleep] out of the tree. If they were meant to fly, they won't break their necks on the concrete.So, what is 1.111... equal to?10/9. Please don't continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcfc Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 This could have the adverse effect to that described, as it has with me. Team Britain are a completely warring team. This has made me hungry for BsK to war more too. Thanks everybody for the sigs | 3,956 to 99 fishing | King of BsK 18/09/08 - 18/10/08Chelsea Supporter | CD Supporter | AfterShock MemberXbox LIVE Gamertag: Cotton TradersNow what the hell are you waitin' for? After me, there shall be no more, so for one last time, make some noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Teams are right on the border to me. They are fun yes, and they can be beneficial to gaining experiance in the clanning world. But as thiesje rightly says, it can make members less active towards a main established clan; which is bad. In my clan, I find that those in any teams, GWD or Clan wars, get less active after time. We can't really tell them not to spend time with there team, but there are a few rules about them. It just stops the members from getting seriously inactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumonde Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Like some person above said it's to late to go back and disallow teams. The only way I can see to keep members active in their clan as opposed to all their teams are to try to integrate the members teams into the clan itself. Stat Progress | Stat Averages | Stat Records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbzruler72 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 That's what I thought, but for some reason they don't want to be called 'clan'."Call me a person, but don't call me a human." That's their logic. Teams are clans--at least in the gaming world. A group of players that do things together.--Is that the definition for a team or a clan? Both. Teams are an excuse for players to multi-clan, & leaders know that. *-P.K.M-* Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakster Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Quite honestly, I've never even heard clans like this called "teams" before. I've been in a few Pest Control "Clans" (back before they changed PC), a few of our members have been in GWD "Clans," we've even tried on multiple occasions to start up an Instinct 360 Clan, but to have a "Clan" that's only for Clan Wars and then try to pass it off as something else entirely by calling it a "Team," that's the definition of Multi-Clanning in my book. If I were you, I wouldn't straight out ban "teaming" out of the blue. First, let them all know your concerns about "teaming" and then possibly slate down something like Wild_Goat_14 suggested, incorporating a team INTO your clan. I see two possible ways of doing this: The first is to have the Faith "Team" sorta like a Special Forces squad, not everyone in Faith could join the "team" (but everyone in the team would still be in Faith) and there would be special requirements and/or approval to join it. The second would be to blur the line between Clan and "Team" (which is already quite blurred as it is) and simply run the warring section of your clan more like a "Team." You could have an event just at Clan Wars a couple times a week, maybe even war a few "Teams" to show them who truly are the kings at Clan Wars... Clans! 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura12 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Teams are rather annoying because we have several members who have refused to come to Rohawk events due to them having a mini war with their team. There really isnt too much a different between a team and a clan other then the multiclanning rule. Some of the teams out there are way better then a lot of the clans. They have all the skills and things of a regular clan but they call themselves a team thus allowing members to multi clan. Teams are great for a caln who doesnt war a lot but if your clan is a heavy warring clan teams can be a bit of nuicence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSireph Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 To be added to Lakster's response to this: Instinct allows members to join a "team" that performs a function that Instinct (the clan) does not. For example, Instinct has never been to Pest Control, as a clan, so for members that would like to Pest Control seriously, we allow them "teams". Similarly to TSA, as long as Instinct comes first, they can remain on the team. Personally, I see "teams" the way many of you seem to, clans that don't want to violate another clans' rules by declaring itself a clan. Unfortunately, as with another response here; Instinct can't go as far as to ban "teaming" as we feel that at least some of our valued members might leave us to go join a "team" instead. It is the unknown we fear when we look upon death and the darkness, nothing more.The true master of Death does not seek to run away from Death. He accepts that he must die,and understands there are far, far worse things in the living world than dying.To the well organized mind death is but the next great adventure.And now, let us step out into the night and pursue that flighty temptress, adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbzruler72 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Banning warring teams might be an option. Any other team--BH, PC, GWD, etc.--should be fine. *-P.K.M-* Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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