huaman Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I think Jagex realized the huge population of people who never went p2p because they were perfectly satisfied with the PK content that existed with the original wilderness. F2p high level pking is ridiculously slow because rune weapons are worthless against full rune and 65+ def. But, by creating pures with low Def and high strength/range/mage the combat pace is a lot faster with f2p weapons. Now with the Bounty Hunter system in place, only the characters in each of the highest bracket are able to successfully PvP without relying on total luck pile jumps. The luckier f2p pures had characters within the high 40 to low 50's range and I'm sure, had some fun while it lasted. But once they got stuck into the medium crater, pking became a lot of boring 0's and "no armor" duels. For the unlucky pures who got stuck out of the low level crater by a couple of levels most likely quit that character. I think that this resulted in people refering back to their mains only to find it extremely boring in f2p. The pures who got stuck out of the low level crater by a few levels might want to train to be able to get into the medium level crater but not only to find the training impossibly boring, their goal was filled with slow paced combat. The only option that would give them a reason to stay active in runescape is to become a member, combined with Jagex's offer of a cheaper subscription, it gives people more motivation to pay to play. What are the activities of runescape that creates a challenge and sparks interest in people? Questing, PvP, Boss Monsters, mini games, etc. When you gimp PvP in f2p what do you end up with? No challenges to keep up player interest. I think its contradictory how Jagex slows down combat and strategy by dumbing it down to 1 v 1 but then tries to make it complicated again by giving people a Pile jump teleport. Frustrating people into p2p must be their new marketing strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervinator_9 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 First things first, i know its a rant but still, paragraph plz, Frustrating people into p2p must be their new marketing strategy. Not really a sound sales stratergy as players who joined after dec last year would just think the whole game is "frustrating" rather than just F2p so i doubt thats jagexs sales plan, i agree with you on the key areas of entertainment in RS and that without pvp f2p does suffer however try to rememeber pvp still exist outside crappy BH in the form of the duel arena and clan wars. not kill/loot? its not meant to be, that is somthing jagex have moved away from. seriously though jagex will have lost alot more money from people simply quiting that frustrating people in p2p and when they made the rwt change i bet i was the last thing on their minds Theres a fine line between not listening and not caring,I like to think I walk this line every day. Pinning blame on Jagex is like trying to put pants on an old man. You both know he needs them, but he'll just keep dancing around, avoiding them at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairness Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Ever considered that maybe, for the first time since its creation, Jagex wasn't thinking of money, and it's just your conspiracy theory? You're being watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoonson Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Yeah,and you know how the Man has these traffic lights?They just want to irritate us into walking,man.Its all part of the Man's plan to steal our cash,man. so i herd u liek devarts?If you look at me and feel offended by my 666-ism,think.I could be just as offended by your "cross".[hide=This's why I'm hot]The Eleventh Commandment:Thou Shalst only say "Amen,brother".Amen, brother :lol:Amen, brudda (referring to the 10th commandment)amen Bruder! (german ftw)I'm invulnerable to everything, except Lenin and Dragoonson.That's impossible. I love people.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Frustrating people into p2p must be their new marketing strategy. This is a new marketing strategy? So they're annoying f2p'ers by...annoying f2p pures, most of whom are the products of p2p'ers? I didn't realize pvp with pures was the only fun you could have in f2p. I must not have been there in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper88888 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Wow, I never knew that I wasn't having fun! Thank you so much for telling me! There is no meaning or truth in life but that which we create for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huaman Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 everything's fine now. I subscribed to P2P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumpta Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 everything's fine now. I subscribed to P2P. So you just let yourself be sucked in by the very marketing strategy you ranted about, which made everything fine and dandy? By your own logic, you just joined the Dark Side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamBloody Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 this is another possible reason which I never think of. Thank you for it. Fools!! Having Wilderness Pking back is harder than Letting camels pass through the needle's hole!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakdragon39 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 everything's fine now. I subscribed to P2P. So you just let yourself be sucked in by the very marketing strategy you ranted about, which made everything fine and dandy? By your own logic, you just joined the Dark Side. Yeah... what? I don't really understand the ranting going on here. Are you done ranting because you got p2p? Whatever... Jagex is gonna do whatever they wanna do. Whatever marketing strategies they are using, are totally up to them to use. If it works for them? I don't see why they shouldn't do it. It's not like they're forcing you into anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 everything's fine now. I subscribed to P2P. So you just let yourself be sucked in by the very marketing strategy you ranted about, which made everything fine and dandy? By your own logic, you just joined the Dark Side. Or rather, just got ensnared in the dark side's evil plan. The cookies r a lie! 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_Servo Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 The only option that would give them a reason to stay active in runescape is to become a member, combined with Jagex's offer of a cheaper subscription, it gives people more motivation to pay to play. They are raising the price, not lowering it. They just decided to keep it the same for a little while longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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