Getting In Shape.

[1_man_army]

Screw getting in shape, I am in shape...... it's just a soft doughy sort of shape.

[re4p3r1]

if you want to be healthy the best way to go is eat healthy, cut out junk food and when you do have to snack eat things with protein or low in sugar like nuts or a fruit.

 

 

 

exercise at least 2-3 a week would also help greatly.

 

 

 

just because you skinny doesnt mean you cant be in great shape or have muscles

[amoeba_009]

Couldn't read half of the replies because I was cringing at the amount of uneducated people in bulking up. It's simple:

 

 

 

1. Put together a full body routine including mostly COMPOUND moves and a few isolations if you want. Compounds are military press, squats, deadlifts, dips, bench press, bent over row etc. which will put overall mass on you quicker than silly isolation exercises.

 

 

 

Not to attack you, but benching ruined my shoulders. As a result of which i cant do skull crushers any more, and i have to use dumbels for chest, so no benching. Just putting that out there. I think benching just pushed my crappy genetics over the edge.

[jemathonical]

Couldn't read half of the replies because I was cringing at the amount of uneducated people in bulking up. It's simple:

 

 

 

1. Put together a full body routine including mostly COMPOUND moves and a few isolations if you want. Compounds are military press, squats, deadlifts, dips, bench press, bent over row etc. which will put overall mass on you quicker than silly isolation exercises.

 

 

 

Not to attack you, but benching ruined my shoulders. As a result of which i cant do skull crushers any more, and i have to use dumbels for chest, so no benching. Just putting that out there. I think benching just pushed my crappy genetics over the edge.

 

 

 

Maybe you put too much weight on too soon?

[amoeba_009]

Couldn't read half of the replies because I was cringing at the amount of uneducated people in bulking up. It's simple:

 

 

 

1. Put together a full body routine including mostly COMPOUND moves and a few isolations if you want. Compounds are military press, squats, deadlifts, dips, bench press, bent over row etc. which will put overall mass on you quicker than silly isolation exercises.

 

 

 

Not to attack you, but benching ruined my shoulders. As a result of which i cant do skull crushers any more, and i have to use dumbels for chest, so no benching. Just putting that out there. I think benching just pushed my crappy genetics over the edge.

 

 

 

Maybe you put too much weight on too soon?

 

 

 

Nah XD then it would have all just come crashing down on my chest. My shoulders just lock up at the peak of the bench press, then they hurt, alot, like their moving out of place. :(

[Maleficus1055]

One thing I do, since all summer im playing rs or other things on the internet, if you have a treadmill and a laptop, set the treadmill to a walking speed and just put your laptop on the front of it. You end up getting a lot of excercise.

[Iamdan]

Couldn't read half of the replies because I was cringing at the amount of uneducated people in bulking up. It's simple:

 

 

 

Building bulk without fitness or at least toning isn't a good idea because it turns into fat easily without the faster metabolism to go with it.

[Hannibal88]

Couldn't read half of the replies because I was cringing at the amount of uneducated people in bulking up. It's simple:

 

 

 

Building bulk without fitness or at least toning isn't a good idea because it turns into fat easily without the faster metabolism to go with it.

 

 

 

Just because one is eating more than their BMR does not mean they won't be 'fit'. Your body needs more nutrients than you burn in your daily activites to use to build muscle.

 

 

 

'Toning' is a myth, also. Toning is essentially building muscle and reducing body fat. High reps of lower weights won't get you 'toned', it'll just waste your time.

 

 

 

The point of bulking up is to add weight, and unless you have amasing genetics, you will add some body fat. However, if you keep your food sources clean and be very strict on keeping your calories only about 500 above your BMR, then your body fat percentage won't go up much at all. When people are adding too much fat when bulking, then they're either dirty bulking, whereby eating foods from 'unclean' sources, or are simply eating far too much.

[Iamdan]

 

Just because one is eating more than their BMR does not mean they won't be 'fit'. Your body needs more nutrients than you burn in your daily activites to use to build muscle.

 

 

 

'Toning' is a myth, also. Toning is essentially building muscle and reducing body fat. High reps of lower weights won't get you 'toned', it'll just waste your time.

 

 

 

The point of bulking up is to add weight, and unless you have amasing genetics, you will add some body fat. However, if you keep your food sources clean and be very strict on keeping your calories only about 500 above your BMR, then your body fat percentage won't go up much at all. When people are adding too much fat when bulking, then they're either dirty bulking, whereby eating foods from 'unclean' sources, or are simply eating far too much.

 

 

 

He said he isn't in shape, doing weights and eating doesn't make one fit. It will work to bulk him up, but what about when he doesn't want to do as much weights anymore, or he is at the size he wants? If he bulks up quickly, and then slows down it turns into fat because he isn't burning the calories to match his then huge appetite. If he bulks up a little slower but gets fit, his metabolism speed will shoot up and his muscles will be tone and have shape rather than just be big, and he will easily burn off the unused calories he will eat when he slows down with the weights. Of course a little fitness work should continue afterward, but that's just common sense.

 

 

 

Also high reps of lower weights targets a different energy system which burns fat, which in turn tones muscles. You can't target areas but the fat comes off regardless.

[Darksavior69]

He said he isn't in shape, doing weights and eating doesn't make one fit. It will work to bulk him up, but what about when he doesn't want to do as much weights anymore, or he is at the size he wants? If he bulks up quickly, and then slows down it turns into fat because he isn't burning the calories to match his then huge appetite. If he bulks up a little slower but gets fit, his metabolism speed will shoot up and his muscles will be tone and have shape rather than just be big, and he will easily burn off the unused calories he will eat when he slows down with the weights. Of course a little fitness work should continue afterward, but that's just common sense.

 

 

 

Also high reps of lower weights targets a different energy system which burns fat, which in turn tones muscles. You can't target areas but the fat comes off regardless.

 

There is pretty much nothing in that post which is true.

 

 

 

He said he isn't in shape, doing weights and eating doesn't make one fit.

 

 

 

First off, lifting weights and eating enough calories/protein will get you in shape muscle wise. It won't help things like VO2 max and cardiovascular health but you need aerobic exercise for that which you don't mention.

 

 

 

It will work to bulk him up, but what about when he doesn't want to do as much weights anymore, or he is at the size he wants? If he bulks up quickly, and then slows down it turns into fat because he isn't burning the calories to match his then huge appetite.

 

If you don't put your muscles to use, you'll lose the muscles. If you eat more calories than your body can turn into muscle and use for the rest of your daily activities you'll gain fat. You can't just lift weights, get muscle and stop exercising and keep that kind of physique no matter what you do. It's also impossible for muscle to turn into fat.

 

 

 

If he bulks up a little slower but gets fit, his metabolism speed will shoot up and his muscles will be tone and have shape rather than just be big, and he will easily burn off the unused calories he will eat when he slows down with the weights.

 

Metabolism doesn't work like that. Also assuming you're doing the same exercises, your muscles will look exactly the same in the end no matter how fast you gain it. One path is just a whole lot less effective.

[bloodyhatchetbear]

I'm just gonna come out and say it: if you're looking to get muscle just to attract a chick, you'd be better off not trying. Any chick that would only go out with a guy because he'd "toned" and "muscular" is probably a shallow twit who's not worth much. This isn't aimed at the OP, it's just in general.

 

 

 

With that off my chest, I wouldn't mind some fitness advice aimed towards women. I noticed that alot of this advice is geared towards the male body, and as we all know, men and women are pretty much different creatures, with different needs. There's gotta be someone here that could help with that <3

 

 

 

I'm not asking for the shallow reason I complained about up there, I'm asking for my own benefit. Yay for being happily engaged to a chubby chaser.

[Rebdragon]

I'm just gonna come out and say it: if you're looking to get muscle just to attract a chick, you'd be better off not trying. Any chick that would only go out with a guy because he'd "toned" and "muscular" is probably a shallow twit who's not worth much. This isn't aimed at the OP, it's just in general.

 

 

 

With that off my chest, I wouldn't mind some fitness advice aimed towards women. I noticed that alot of this advice is geared towards the male body, and as we all know, men and women are pretty much different creatures, with different needs. There's gotta be someone here that could help with that <3

 

 

 

I'm not asking for the shallow reason I complained about up there, I'm asking for my own benefit. Yay for being happily engaged to a chubby chaser.

 

You act like being physically attractive is a bad thing.

[bloodyhatchetbear]

 

You act like being physically attractive is a bad thing.

 

 

 

No. shallow chicks are a bad thing.

[Darksavior69]

 

 

 

With that off my chest, I wouldn't mind some fitness advice aimed towards women. I noticed that alot of this advice is geared towards the male body, and as we all know, men and women are pretty much different creatures, with different needs. There's gotta be someone here that could help with that <3

 

Fitness advice for men and women is almost entirely the same.

[Rebdragon]

 

You act like being physically attractive is a bad thing.

 

 

 

No. shallow chicks are a bad thing.

 

Preferring a male who is better cut/considering appearances as a factor is shallow/bad? Sounds like a trademark case of antipopularkiditis.

[Kenshinjapan]

 

You act like being physically attractive is a bad thing.

 

 

 

No. shallow chicks are a bad thing.

 

Preferring a male who is better cut/considering appearances as a factor is shallow/bad? Sounds like a trademark case of antipopularkiditis.

 

 

 

I can understand where he's coming from. In high school, a person with a muscular body falls in to the stereotype of a jock/athlete. Those people generally are a lot more arrogant (at that age) and a friend with a less tones body tends to have a better personality.

 

 

 

Then again, this all changes when people hit adulthood and stay in shape to be out of the reach of death :-# .

[deloriagod]

 

You act like being physically attractive is a bad thing.

 

 

 

No. shallow chicks are a bad thing.

 

Preferring a male who is better cut/considering appearances as a factor is shallow/bad? Sounds like a trademark case of antipopularkiditis.

 

 

 

Agreed. I'm going to have to say (in high school) the majority of people are very shallow.

[Iamdan]

 

First off, lifting weights and eating enough calories/protein will get you in shape muscle wise. It won't help things like VO2 max and cardiovascular health but you need aerobic exercise for that which you don't mention.

 

I never said anything that contradicted that, and I did mention doing beep tests which does improve VO2 max and cardiovascular health.

 

 

 

If you don't put your muscles to use, you'll lose the muscles. If you eat more calories than your body can turn into muscle and use for the rest of your daily activities you'll gain fat. You can't just lift weights, get muscle and stop exercising and keep that kind of physique no matter what you do. It's also impossible for muscle to turn into fat.

 

By muscle turning into fat, I meant that having the muscle, and the working out will give him a huge appetite, if he stops or slows down with the weights he will still have that appetite but won't use up the calories. The muscle will be lost and fat will be gained. This also hasn't contradicted what you've said.

 

 

 

Metabolism doesn't work like that. Also assuming you're doing the same exercises, your muscles will look exactly the same in the end no matter how fast you gain it. One path is just a whole lot less effective.

 

No they won't, with all the extra eating he will gain fat with the muscle. Weights won't burn calories as much as fitness. The main idea of weight training to burn fat is that the more muscle the body has, the more energy it requires. The fitness work will burn off the fat and make the muscle appear more tone. Also, metabolism does work like that.

[Tim]

just to butt in into the controversy, i do have a high rapid metabolism. hence why i want to get in shape and get some abs. (not soo much the second but it might help my confidence)

[bloodyhatchetbear]

 

You act like being physically attractive is a bad thing.

 

 

 

No. shallow chicks are a bad thing.

 

Preferring a male who is better cut/considering appearances as a factor is shallow/bad? Sounds like a trademark case of antipopularkiditis.

 

 

 

I would like to point out a couple of things:

 

 

 

1) I am speaking of the people (adults included) who only date "good-looking" people. They tend to lack depth and personality. I feel the same way about gold-diggers.

 

 

 

2) Popularity means nothing to me. One can be popular and not be the greatest looking person in the world. Personality, my friend.

 

 

 

I am also speaking from both sides of the fence. I'm a switch-hitter, so I know how it works with both sides.

[Iamdan]

just to butt in into the controversy, i do have a high rapid metabolism. hence why i want to get in shape and get some abs. (not soo much the second but it might help my confidence)

 

 

 

If you already have a fast metabolism then I would still suggest some running, but doing crunches and arch's (keeping yourself supported with your toes and forearms) should give you abs. Flys, push ups, bench press etc will do your pecs.

 

 

 

I would like to point out a couple of things:

 

 

 

1) I am speaking of the people (adults included) who only date "good-looking" people. They tend to lack depth and personality. I feel the same way about gold-diggers.

 

 

 

2) Popularity means nothing to me. One can be popular and not be the greatest looking person in the world. Personality, my friend.

 

 

 

I am also speaking from both sides of the fence. I'm a switch-hitter, so I know how it works with both sides.

 

 

 

Men are naturally attracted to looks. The only males who say otherwise are either in denial, they have been forced to settle for less, or have high horse issues.

 

Women are naturally attracted to personality. Specifically, survive and reproductive values. Good looks alone will only get shallow women, but looking your best will help with all women. Not as much as personality, but it still helps.

[Kriegsmier]

Swimming laps is always good too.

 

 

 

Just remember muscle isn't built by breaking yourself off EVERY single day. Break yourself off 2-3 times a week, rest a day or so, then do it again. The whole point is to break the muscles so they come in stronger and more toned because they rebuild themselves. Get a variety of workouts as well.

[Hannibal88]

He said he isn't in shape, doing weights and eating doesn't make one fit. It will work to bulk him up, but what about when he doesn't want to do as much weights anymore, or he is at the size he wants? If he bulks up quickly, and then slows down it turns into fat because he isn't burning the calories to match his then huge appetite. If he bulks up a little slower but gets fit, his metabolism speed will shoot up and his muscles will be tone and have shape rather than just be big, and he will easily burn off the unused calories he will eat when he slows down with the weights. Of course a little fitness work should continue afterward, but that's just common sense.

 

 

 

Also high reps of lower weights targets a different energy system which burns fat, which in turn tones muscles. You can't target areas but the fat comes off regardless.

 

 

 

I realise that this has already been replied to, but I thought I'd add some stuff.

 

 

 

No offense, mate, but your first paragraph is something out of those bull '6-minute abs' advertisements. You cannot TONE muscle. If you lift heavy for a session of 40-60 minutes, try and tell me your heart rate isn't beating rapidly and you're sweating unbelievably. If you aren't, then you aren't lifting heavy enough or with enough intensity.

 

 

 

The bit about the difference between bulking quickly and slowly in order to *cringes*.. 'tone', is absolute nonsense. Muscle cannot grow in different ways, whether that be 'shaped' or 'big'. That's down to your genetics, the way your muscles will grow. You don't grow big muscles overnight, it takes years to build significant muscle mass and then added with a cutting regime, then you'll be, to use this commonly used phrase - 'toned'.

 

 

 

The contrary is to be said for your thoughts on metabolism. The more muscle mass you have, the more calories you burn by sitting down or resting. If the OP was to lift weights to look good or 'get in shape', and then stop when he achieved that, then he'd be stupid to do so. Muscle cannot turn into fat, but it can waste away as proteins are stripped away from it for nutrients if you're malnourished, but that takes a lot of time when you've gained significant mass.

 

 

 

You need to realise, judging by the last sentence of what you typed, that muscle building and fat burning are two entirely different things. Put it this way:

 

 

 

(A) - My way of building muscle that I have reiterated:

 

 

 

Lift heavy, eat above your BMR, sleep heavy and you will grow muscle. If you keep your workouts intense, then you'll keep fat gains to a bare minimum. The OP wants to 'get in shape', and he's not going to look in shape by losing more fat, he's going to look even more skinny which is not a good look.

 

 

 

(B) - Your way of 'toning' muscle:

 

 

 

Lift low weights, high reps which will burn fat and then will 'tone' muscle. I'll just add a bit there to ask you where exactly did you get that from? Unless you're using AAS (anabolic, androgenic steroids) or are still on 'noob gains' from starting weight training, losing fat and gaining muscle is a hard thing to do. That's what toning essentially is; gaining muscle and losing fat. You cannot stimulate muscle growth with low weight which will hardly break up a sweat, and therefore you're hardly going to be pushing yourself to expending much calories. It just makes no sense.

 

 

 

Anyone who wants to know the no-bull approach to building muscle, I suggest you visit:

 

 

 

http://www.t-nation.com/

[Iamdan]

I realise that this has already been replied to, but I thought I'd add some stuff.

 

 

 

You seem to be misreading my post, or you completely missed my reply to Darksavior69.

 

 

 

Most of what you've said I have already answered. Yes I know you cannot physically 'tone' muscle, that muscle doesn't 'turn into' fat, I know that muscle doesn't grow differently and that more muscle burns more calories.

 

 

 

You are misinterpreting my posts and focusing on the flaws you see in how I explained it rather than my actual points. I won't go back over them but feel free to read my posts again and understand them better.

 

 

 

If you lift heavy for a session of 40-60 minutes, try and tell me your heart rate isn't beating rapidly and you're sweating unbelievably. If you aren't, then you aren't lifting heavy enough or with enough intensity.

 

 

 

Very sweaty yes, heart rate is higher, but it's a fraction of what it is after running sessions which was a point I made.

 

 

 

Lift low weights, high reps which will burn fat and then will 'tone' muscle. I'll just add a bit there to ask you where exactly did you get that from? Unless you're using AAS (anabolic, androgenic steroids) or are still on 'noob gains' from starting weight training, losing fat and gaining muscle is a hard thing to do. That's what toning essentially is; gaining muscle and losing fat. You cannot stimulate muscle growth with low weight which will hardly break up a sweat, and therefore you're hardly going to be pushing yourself to expending much calories. It just makes no sense.

 

 

 

How about I do a lot of running which has given me a fast metabolism, which burns calories much faster than just having muscle. I then do weights and gain muscle, which appears toned because I have a fast metabolism from running which burns the calories before being stored? Then If I don't do weights and still have my huge appetite, I won't gain lose muscle and gain fat because of my running.

 

 

 

Running won't make you skinnier unless you already have enough fat, my legs have gained a lot of muscle from running relative to the little amount of weigh lifting I did at the time.

[l0l0lpur32]

 

You act like being physically attractive is a bad thing.

 

 

 

No. shallow chicks are a bad thing.

 

Preferring a male who is better cut/considering appearances as a factor is shallow/bad? Sounds like a trademark case of antipopularkiditis.

 

 

 

I would like to point out a couple of things:

 

 

 

1) I am speaking of the people (adults included) who only date "good-looking" people. They tend to lack depth and personality. I feel the same way about gold-diggers.

 

 

 

2) Popularity means nothing to me. One can be popular and not be the greatest looking person in the world. Personality, my friend.

 

 

 

I am also speaking from both sides of the fence. I'm a switch-hitter, so I know how it works with both sides.

 

Although it may be "shallow", the fact is that people find people in better physical shape more attractive.