Inuashakent Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 @ Kent/Pant/Sentry, Just an idea. Because the main process of "processing" skills [smithing/Herblore/Summon] is to gather ingredients and make a product. To compare Herblore to Summoning... Charms are Herbs Shards/Pouches are Vials w/ Water Seconds are well... Seconds. With the gathering of Charms/Herbs being the main part, there are a few places to get them efficiently, however... Seconds are the wild card in the equation, which is where, in my experience, most people buy. But the people who gather/want to gather, need the places to gather them efficiently like the charms/herbs. So, just my Two Cents, the Knowledge of Gathering Seconds, is as crucial to the skill as is the gathering of the main ingredients. ~Knotch You... can't compare charms to herbs. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentry_Wolf Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 @ Kent/Pant/Sentry, Just an idea. Because the main process of "processing" skills [smithing/Herblore/Summon] is to gather ingredients and make a product. To compare Herblore to Summoning... Charms are Herbs Shards/Pouches are Vials w/ Water Seconds are well... Seconds. With the gathering of Charms/Herbs being the main part, there are a few places to get them efficiently, however... Seconds are the wild card in the equation, which is where, in my experience, most people buy. But the people who gather/want to gather, need the places to gather them efficiently like the charms/herbs. So, just my Two Cents, the Knowledge of Gathering Seconds, is as crucial to the skill as is the gathering of the main ingredients. ~Knotch Sorry, I don't understand what you mean, besides this is a herblore guide not a summoning guide, sorry. :( Try Kents guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Jay99 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Quite a good guide, should defenitely help out everyone who's having problems with herblore :thumbup:. Can't wait for the pots-to-make-for-99-update 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentry_Wolf Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 Updated with a small guide for levelling. : Next in line is to go in more depth with secondary gathering. Feedback needed! :-# ~Sentry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Updated with a small guide for levelling. : Next in line is to go in more depth with secondary gathering. Feedback needed! :-# ~Sentry. Toadflax is an herb to farm for the noobs. Snapdragons are much better. Over 2x more xp, and you make alot of money. Seeds may be expensive, the the herbs do more than to cover up. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentry_Wolf Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 Updated with a small guide for levelling. : Next in line is to go in more depth with secondary gathering. Feedback needed! :-# ~Sentry. Toadflax is an herb to farm for the noobs. Snapdragons are much better. Over 2x more xp, and you make alot of money. Seeds may be expensive, the the herbs do more than to cover up. I am not good with snapdragons what so ever, they always die on me! I might try a run again after I'm done with all my kwuarm seeds, but don't hold your lungs. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123_x_pac Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Nice guide. Once I have like 10m to spend on herb, I defiantly(sp?) will. O btw, did you get my pm about the whiteberries? League of Legends Referal link: http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4e55a571778d2633364408"Life is short, and shortly it will end, Death comes quickly which respects no one, Death destroys everything and takes pity on no one"Drops: 8whips, 28dboots, 1hand cannon, 2 dmeds 3dskirts 2 dbows99s(in order): Attack Constitution Defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Updated with a small guide for levelling. : Next in line is to go in more depth with secondary gathering. Feedback needed! :-# ~Sentry. Toadflax is an herb to farm for the noobs. Snapdragons are much better. Over 2x more xp, and you make alot of money. Seeds may be expensive, the the herbs do more than to cover up. I am not good with snapdragons what so ever, they always die on me! I might try a run again after I'm done with all my kwuarm seeds, but don't hold your lungs. :wall: Farming levels doesn't affect herb yields. Just magic secateurs (only the number, not death count) and super compost. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Updated with a small guide for levelling. : Next in line is to go in more depth with secondary gathering. Feedback needed! :-# ~Sentry. Toadflax is an herb to farm for the noobs. Snapdragons are much better. Over 2x more xp, and you make alot of money. Seeds may be expensive, the the herbs do more than to cover up. I am not good with snapdragons what so ever, they always die on me! I might try a run again after I'm done with all my kwuarm seeds, but don't hold your lungs. :wall: Farming levels doesn't affect herb yields. Just magic secateurs (only the number, not death count) and super compost. I've found only 1/9 of my herbs die. Give them a chance; they will grow. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 This thread is seriously getting no attention. Although some of the information is knowledge base type, there is some really good info for beginners, not to mention it's great layout. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate_Felix Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 oh im sorry, i didnt see this guide when it was made :/ Absolutely great guide but i, *dramatic music* HAVE FOUND A MISTAKE! :twisted: in the special herbs section those herbs are also used for legends quest! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA NOW YOUR GUIDE IS A 1/10! [hide=real rating]10/10 AoW plz?[/hide] [hide]Felix, je moeder.Je moeder felixJe vader, felix.Felix, je oma.Felix, je ongelofelijk gave pwnaze avatar B)Felix, je moeder.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 oh im sorry, i didnt see this guide when it was made :/ Absolutely great guide but i, *dramatic music* HAVE FOUND A MISTAKE! :twisted: in the special herbs section those herbs are also used for legends quest! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA NOW YOUR GUIDE IS A 1/10! [hide=real rating]10/10 AoW plz?[/hide] Skill guides, for whatever reason, cannot be put into AoW. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentry_Wolf Posted September 18, 2008 Author Share Posted September 18, 2008 Thank you for the bumps. I can't really think of anything else to put in this guide, people have said to me the 2nd guides are fine. Plus, I am a contender in the Skill n' Chill oylimpics and don't want to miss out on exp! All the same, if you find an amazing discovery that needs to be put in the guide, let me know. Who knows, might make a non-skill guide after the oylimpics are over. Sentry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouwzie Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Gah, my post got removed. Oh well, I'll just say it again: Super anti-poison is 106.3 xp per potion, magic potion 172.5. I'll give you the proof in a few minutes. And if you want to give advice on how to level herblore without getting the herbs yourself, don't. Because ofthe many price changes, the gp/xp will change daily, for example: Day 1: Toadflax: 2200 ea. Crushed nest: 4800 ea. Saradomin Brew: 4500 ea. (2200+4800-4500)/180=13.6 xp/gp. (This is just an example, sara brews are around 7-8 gp/xp most of the time. Day 2: Toadflax: 2400 ea. (Merchanters decided to mess with it) Crushed nest: 5000 ea. (Merchanters decided to mess with it) Saradomin Brew: 4300 ea. (Merchanters had messed with it and dumped it) (2400+5000-4300)/180=17.2 (Another example this is) As you can see, it has gone up with 3.6 gp/xp, so you'll have to calculate all day. It's what I had to do and herblore would've never been as cheap for me if I didn't find out about super restores being 3 gp/xp at some time : There was something else in my previous post but I've forgetten it, I'll update this some more later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbydog95 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 nice guide 9/10 made me totaly rethink herblore i might actualy get herb up now :shock: PSN: Skaterguy1224 Tactical Nukes - 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentry_Wolf Posted September 27, 2008 Author Share Posted September 27, 2008 Thank you Abby, that made me feel like I achived something in making this guide. Bouwzie, I will update that soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulmachine Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 meh, not that great of guide imo, 7/10 You forgot to mention the method of killing abberants without prayer, I do it with around a +150 mage def bonus and I stay just long enough to get a full inv of herbs, and I don't have to rely on only prayer :thumbsup: (-1 point) you basically just breezed by this(I know you mentioned it but... I feel there are more things that need to be mentioned) You also forget that people are lazy, try making a table showing how much gp is lost for buying ingredients, as to give a rough xp/gp cost.(-1 point) I really don't like herblore guides due to the easy nature of herblore, it is essentially get herbs and make 'em into pots, this guide has done more but I still hate this skill lol. Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup3rpur Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 meh, not that great of guide imo, 7/10 You forgot to mention the method of killing abberants without prayer, I do it with around a +150 mage def bonus and I stay just long enough to get a full inv of herbs, and I don't have to rely on only prayer :thumbsup: (-1 point) you basically just breezed by this(I know you mentioned it but... I feel there are more things that need to be mentioned) You also forget that people are lazy, try making a table showing how much gp is lost for buying ingredients, as to give a rough xp/gp cost.(-1 point) I really don't like herblore guides due to the easy nature of herblore, it is essentially get herbs and make 'em into pots, this guide has done more but I still hate this skill lol. killing aberrants without prayer is inefficiant. this is a well thought out guide. the only issue i have with it is that it isnt a very realistic way to get 99. collecting all the herbs you need for 99 would be very inneficiant. Getting your own seconds would be even worse. Your ideas are great. This would go from a "good" guide to a "great" guide if you added expenses for the various methods (obviously thats hard based on ge) Retired after 2 accounts and 8 years of scapin...2 accounts over 2,000 total...may my life rest in peaceBrawl Code:5327-0581-3706 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 meh, not that great of guide imo, 7/10 You forgot to mention the method of killing abberants without prayer, I do it with around a +150 mage def bonus and I stay just long enough to get a full inv of herbs, and I don't have to rely on only prayer :thumbsup: (-1 point) you basically just breezed by this(I know you mentioned it but... I feel there are more things that need to be mentioned) You also forget that people are lazy, try making a table showing how much gp is lost for buying ingredients, as to give a rough xp/gp cost.(-1 point) I really don't like herblore guides due to the easy nature of herblore, it is essentially get herbs and make 'em into pots, this guide has done more but I still hate this skill lol. killing aberrants without prayer is inefficiant. this is a well thought out guide. the only issue i have with it is that it isnt a very realistic way to get 99. collecting all the herbs you need for 99 would be very inneficiant. Getting your own seconds would be even worse. Your ideas are great. This would go from a "good" guide to a "great" guide if you added expenses for the various methods (obviously thats hard based on ge) I agree with both of you... using food allows you to quickly fill up food, without losing any speed as you can finish a whole run and collect a whole inventory worth of herbs without prayer. However, it is a huge hassle, so I wouldn't say one method owns all. Although prayer is better. Eh, cost/gp changes way too much to write a guide on it. I would reccomend against it, unless you can keep it constantly updated (of course not) or find a way for it to automatically do that. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup3rpur Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 meh, not that great of guide imo, 7/10 You forgot to mention the method of killing abberants without prayer, I do it with around a +150 mage def bonus and I stay just long enough to get a full inv of herbs, and I don't have to rely on only prayer :thumbsup: (-1 point) you basically just breezed by this(I know you mentioned it but... I feel there are more things that need to be mentioned) You also forget that people are lazy, try making a table showing how much gp is lost for buying ingredients, as to give a rough xp/gp cost.(-1 point) I really don't like herblore guides due to the easy nature of herblore, it is essentially get herbs and make 'em into pots, this guide has done more but I still hate this skill lol. killing aberrants without prayer is inefficiant. this is a well thought out guide. the only issue i have with it is that it isnt a very realistic way to get 99. collecting all the herbs you need for 99 would be very inneficiant. Getting your own seconds would be even worse. Your ideas are great. This would go from a "good" guide to a "great" guide if you added expenses for the various methods (obviously thats hard based on ge) I agree with both of you... using food allows you to quickly fill up food, without losing any speed as you can finish a whole run and collect a whole inventory worth of herbs without prayer. However, it is a huge hassle, so I wouldn't say one method owns all. Although prayer is better. Eh, cost/gp changes way too much to write a guide on it. I would reccomend against it, unless you can keep it constantly updated (of course not) or find a way for it to automatically do that. Maybe he should just mention it then :) like put a formula for the kids who cant pass prealgebra (lol) Retired after 2 accounts and 8 years of scapin...2 accounts over 2,000 total...may my life rest in peaceBrawl Code:5327-0581-3706 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulmachine Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 meh, not that great of guide imo, 7/10 You forgot to mention the method of killing abberants without prayer, I do it with around a +150 mage def bonus and I stay just long enough to get a full inv of herbs, and I don't have to rely on only prayer :thumbsup: (-1 point) you basically just breezed by this(I know you mentioned it but... I feel there are more things that need to be mentioned) You also forget that people are lazy, try making a table showing how much gp is lost for buying ingredients, as to give a rough xp/gp cost.(-1 point) I really don't like herblore guides due to the easy nature of herblore, it is essentially get herbs and make 'em into pots, this guide has done more but I still hate this skill lol. killing aberrants without prayer is inefficiant. this is a well thought out guide. the only issue i have with it is that it isnt a very realistic way to get 99. collecting all the herbs you need for 99 would be very inneficiant. Getting your own seconds would be even worse. Your ideas are great. This would go from a "good" guide to a "great" guide if you added expenses for the various methods (obviously thats hard based on ge) I agree with both of you... using food allows you to quickly fill up food, without losing any speed as you can finish a whole run and collect a whole inventory worth of herbs without prayer. However, it is a huge hassle, so I wouldn't say one method owns all. Although prayer is better. Eh, cost/gp changes way too much to write a guide on it. I would reccomend against it, unless you can keep it constantly updated (of course not) or find a way for it to automatically do that. How is it a hassle, you get hit a lot but you finish a run with almost no cost. Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned_Nex Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Well, if someone could develop a scripit that draws the info from the GE database... Dungeoneering isn't a skill. I'm faster than bots at Sorceress Garden. PM me if you want to chat. My PM is always off. My keyboard is on fire. Want some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentry_Wolf Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 I like this idea. I'll make a formula. Thanks for the idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la la la Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 This might have already been suggested: Calculate a current xp/gp ratio for each pot commonly used for training. That would be extremely helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentry_Wolf Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hey, Sorry for the lack of attention to this guide, I just have to set a day to sort out all the missing things for this guide. Then I can move onto my next project! : I'll try and get this done ASAP, with the juggling of this busy school time, the SnC Oylimpics and more IRL stuff, I bearly have any time anymore to play Runescape. Might be able to do a good update sometime during the mid-term, but then, I'll be working... :( Thank you guys for your awesome suggestions. I'm out. Sentry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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