May 13, 200917 yr Great guide, I'm going to use this! "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy.
May 20, 200917 yr Do you want profit or speed? By choosing profit: [*:1j0nzvdm]You gather most of your supplies yourself. [*:1j0nzvdm]You choose to use my guide. The pros of that: [*:1j0nzvdm]It all pays off in the end with spending next to nothing. [*:1j0nzvdm]Great satisfaction. The cons of that: [*:1j0nzvdm]It will take awhile to gather the supplies. [*:1j0nzvdm]It can get tedious at times. (Try to keep it as fun as possible!) By choosing speed: [*:1j0nzvdm]You buy all your supplies from the GE. The pros of that: [*:1j0nzvdm]It is fast! The cons of that: [*:1j0nzvdm]It will cost a lot. The source of the raw items does not affect the cost of training herblore or any other secondary skill. Even if you collect all the items yourself, you are still spending wealth. When you collect items, your wealth goes up. When you train herblore, your wealth goes down. The profit comes from collecting the items. Herblore makes you lose wealth. You could just sell all the ingredients and get much more money. However, there are much better ways to collect wealth. Herblore is totally useless after 65 (requirement for While Guthix Sleeps). DIY = inefficiency. Why do something that makes 50k/hour if it's possible to get 500k/hour and buy the raws (you'll get 10x amount in the same time). I started at 18:29 with 0 eye of newts, at 18:38 I had 270. So you might be possible to obtain 2,500 eyes an hour. (Needs more testing.) If you can get 500k/hour, you can get a little bit less than 7000 eyes in hour from GE.
May 20, 200917 yr Herblore is totally useless after 65 (requirement for While Guthix Sleeps). I'd like to see you making saradomin brews with 65 herblore. About the DIY.Some people prefer to gather the items themselves because it gives them a much greater satisfaction. Most people play for fun, which comes from doing things yourself rather than do the same thing many times over.
May 20, 200917 yr Herblore is totally useless after 65 (requirement for While Guthix Sleeps). I'd like to see you making saradomin brews with 65 herblore. About the DIY.Some people prefer to gather the items themselves because it gives them a much greater satisfaction. Most people play for fun, which comes from doing things yourself rather than do the same thing many times over.You can buy saradomin brews from the GE (requires level 1 herblore) and it's cheaper than the ingredients. The amount of potions capegrinders make is enough to feed the market. About my criticism of DIY. It's about people who think DIY is smart ("as you're not losing any money"). In reality, DIY is not smart and you're losing the same amount of money by non-DIY. If you think DIY is fun, that's OK. It just isn't smart economically.
May 21, 200917 yr Author If everyone had the same opinion, there would be no Saradomin brews! (Thats if no one bothered to get 99 herblore for maxing or something hehe.) Its not all about the money blah blah blah. Thats just boring. In my opinion. I made this guide for people who want a different twist and approach to Herblore. If you are happy with your way you do stuff, that's fine. No one will judge you. No need to bash people who do not choose to do something the way everyone else dose it, being unique ftw! On a more important note, sorry I have promised updates and they still haven't came yet! Real life's holding me down. Summers coming soon so I'll have more time! And wow, 3 months or so till' this guide is gonna be one year old! Love
May 21, 200917 yr If everyone had the same opinion, there would be no Saradomin brews! (Thats if no one bothered to get 99 herblore for maxing or something hehe.) You're forgetting the law of supply and demand. If everyone had the same opinion, Saradomin brews would be worth more than its ingredients. Because of skillcape, replacement for the party hats and the only reason (other than total boosting) to get 99 herblore, some people will flood the market with potions and that's enough to feed the market. There is no untradable high level potions, so a character with level 1 herblore is as good as a character with 99. If an untradable "mega potion set" was added, herblore would be actually useful and not just for show off. Let's say mega magic potion level 80 (increases spell damage too), mega ranged: 85, mega defence: 90, mega attack: 95, mega strength: 99. No need to bash people who do not choose to do something the way everyone else dose it, being unique ftw! So, criticism means bashing for you. You should remove the information about not losing wealth if you DIY, because it is false. You will lose as much wealth whether you DIY or not, as I said in an above message.
May 26, 200917 yr You don't lose wealth by going through the DIY way... You just gain less than other methods. Also this is a guide to herblore, to train the skill. I suggest you make a guide about getting cheap potions through money making if you want your point of view seen by the masses. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563
May 27, 200917 yr You don't lose wealth by going through the DIY way... You just gain less than other methods. As said before: when you collect the items, you gain wealth and when you train herblore, you lose wealth. There is simply NO WAY to train herblore without losing wealth. Remember you can also keep or exchange the items for something else. By doing every McJob yourself, you will ALSO lose the potential wealth (items) you would have gotten by more efficient ways of collecting wealth.
May 27, 200917 yr Great guide. Too bad toadflax is now 10x as expensive as it was when this is written. Do you think you could go more in depth into the training methods? Different options and such would be useful with how hard it is to find a speed method that isn't ridiculous One of the problems I've run into with herblore is that since the prices fluctuate so much with the GE, I could buy everything at a price to break even, only to find that the finished potion dropped a hundred GP, causing me to lose a mil on a single level. It's hard to just look at the prices of herbs and seconds on the GE and not go crazy.
May 27, 200917 yr Excellent guide Sentry, on a scale of 1 to 10, 15! But... I think you're forgetting something about the limpwurt roots. You can farm them yes... but a better thing to do is kill cockatrices! It is a slayer monster, so you can bring black mask/slayer helm to it if its your task, and you have a chance to get a cockatrice head which you can turn into a minitrice (Soul Wars) or mount it in your skill hall (Construction- POH)!
June 1, 200917 yr Teleport to Trollheim, run down the mountain to go into the market square, up the ramp, in the doors, north up the stairs, south to the kitchen, up the stairs in there. Go west in the door up north, up the ladder go north again and your at the patch. Do the routine and teleport off, to your next activity! Once you enter the cave you can just go south to the door Great guide it helped me get 62 herby! =D> BOO
June 6, 200917 yr Just wanted to say, brilliant guide, I've read it all through, it's great, but I haven't read through the replies yet so I haven't seen if this has been stated already but... Chocolate Dust/Bar It is quite annoying and hard to obtain this item nowadays, with the release of the infinite stock; most shops have stopped stocking it! The only ok way is to use the RFD chest in Lumbridge basement. Note they are other people who might be trying to buy it as well, so it can be hard at peak times. World hop when you have bought out the stock. I am not aware of any other faster methods. The Choc-Ice Seller in Nardah stocks infinite chocolate bars, and isn't that far away from the bank, probably alot faster than having to hop alot with the Recipe For Disaster bank chest. I would like to get the most difficult 99 in the game to accomplish. which is woodcutting. because I had a drunken night in philadelphia and sprayed a fire extinguiser, evacuated a 7 story hotel on the philly stadium, spent the night in jail.. then got on level 2 prob & have to pay 50 a month because I have a job. It's their way of collecting more money out of me.
June 14, 200917 yr what do you bind your farming amulet to when your growing your herbs? I LOVE YOU DIRKY & FURAH
June 14, 200917 yr what do you bind your farming amulet to when your growing your herbs? Bind it to your last herb,as it tells you when it's grown.Thus, if the last herb is grown the others should be too.
June 14, 200917 yr This is great! I plan on using it if I try to get higher herblore. :) Proud Quest Cape owner
July 22, 200916 yr THNX SO MUCH !! Love the xp/gp sheet - helped me find out that if I make 3k fishing potions for 52 - 65 herblore :) I'll make 'only' 2.5mill loss (which is better [buying all parts] than a 24mill loss by prayer potions O_0 lol thnx so much - this may the reason behind the whip changes 0_o Thnx to kaosmerchant for hosting.
July 24, 200916 yr You don't lose wealth by going through the DIY way... You just gain less than other methods. As said before: when you collect the items, you gain wealth and when you train herblore, you lose wealth. There is simply NO WAY to train herblore without losing wealth. Remember you can also keep or exchange the items for something else. By doing every McJob yourself, you will ALSO lose the potential wealth (items) you would have gotten by more efficient ways of collecting wealth. Differentiate between net loss, and loss. If you start with a 10 million gold piece cashpile, buy materials, and make potions, you end with no cash and some potions (which can sell for whatever). That's called net loss. If you start with 10 million gold pieces, gather the materials, make potions, you end up with 10 million gold pieces, and whatever comes with selling your potions. That's called net profit. Of course, people argue time is money, so the individual can determine whether gathering is worth it or not. |Signature by Jason321|
July 25, 200916 yr The Hobgoblins at the Hobgoblin mine, in lv36 wildy drop absurd number of limps (at least in f2p they do)
October 7, 200916 yr Author Excellent, with this new update... I have some ideas, don't expect it soon, but I am going to OVERHAUL this guide. The fun thing is I don't have the levels, so this will be first hand DIYing, I will be able to get a lot of research! Really excited about this project! Make sure to watch this space! Woo!!
October 7, 200916 yr Almost everyone can make a good guide. Dealing with massive updates like these and making your guide up-to-date is what really separate the pro's from the rest. Good luck with it! :thumbsup: When everything's been said and done, more has been said than done.All skills 80+
November 8, 200916 yr If you would like to use, i made some spreadsheets to calculate the gp per exp for all of the old potions. They are categorized by grimy, clean, unfinished, and also by level. Grimy Lvl 3-22Grimy Lvl 25-42Grimy Lvl 44-63Grimy Lvl 65-82Clean Lvl 3-22Clean Lvl 25-42Clean Lvl 44-63Clean Lvl 65-82Unfinished Lvl 3-22Unfinished Lvl 25-42Unfinished Lvl 44-63Unfinished Lvl 65-82 Keeping them up to date is difficult as usually the links will break every so often. I'll do my best to keep them running. Enjoy
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