An Australian Vietnam Vet, aged 62 years has been taken by a croc 20kms north of cooktown in qlds north. animal services are now talking about culling crocs in the area to remove the threat?

 

 

 

anyone have thoughts about this stuff? culling and our responsibilites to the wildlife in the area?

 

 

 

I think this guy is an idiot. hes in an area thats uninhabited, alone and without protection. now because the croc was defending his habitat he has to die. thats rubbish. if someone came into my house uninvited and tried to hurt me, or even threatened me, id beat them! :D too bad for him :/

 

 

 

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leave the dam crocs alone. it not their fault he got killed, he shouldn't have been there. when crocs start crawling into our houses at night (which are not located in their place of home, next to their lake, or anywhere where they have been for years) and eating our kids kill them then, but not because we crawl into their lakes and start swimming in their water!

 

 

 

imagine if crocs started culling us because they crawled into our house and tryed to eat some kid and someone else in the house killed the croc, and the crocs decided because we killed that croc they should kill us

leave the dam crocs alone.

 

 

 

I agree with that 100% it WAS the guys fault for being that stupid.

I'm not trying to be mean, or anything. But, WHO CARES if the Old Guy was being dumb and going in there, it's perfectly fine for them to "cull" the crocs w\e that means. They're not an endangered species.

I'm not trying to be mean, or anything. But, WHO CARES if the Old Guy was being dumb and going in there, it's perfectly fine for them to "cull" the crocs w\e that means. They're not an endangered species.

 

 

 

... hate to be mean.. but if you dont know what "cull"ing is, you probably shouldnt post :)

Im going to sound very cold, but i agree

 

 

 

I feel really sorry for the family and everyone thats involved (SES crew, police etc.), but the guy was checking crab pots and went into the water after he noticed the lines were cut... honestly, why would anyone in their right mind leave crab pots in a known croc habitat and go into the water :S

I read this in the paper today. It said he was Scottish and from Perth (but said he lived in Oz most of his life)

 

So I don't know which Perth they are meaning. There's a big difference in this answer to me.

The only time I would ever take the life of any living being I.E Humans or Animals is when they pose a serious threat to humans in our own habitat.

 

 

 

Going into the outback and being killed by a deadly animal is a cause of your own stupidity, if you go unprepared, uninformed and not knowing what to expect it is only your fault it you die. If you go into a deadly animals habitat it is your fault, if a deadly animal comes into your habitat and it kills you then no one is to blame, you are just unlucky.

Its not so much killing crocs for protection for the humans, but for population control. Its a simple wildlife management act. Same with white tailed deer in the southeastern US. There are no natural predetors so it is the human who must keep populations in check. For this reason i see no problems culling. Just as an excuse to cleanup the area and protect humans, thats [developmentally delayed]ed.

Sorry, I just felt like saying that. Please do not kill the crocodile, it wasn't his fault for using his NATURAL INSTINCTS.

LOL CROCODILE HUNTER WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW

 

 

 

I feel bad for lol'ing at that.

 

 

 

*googles culling so I can form an opinion*

 

 

 

Oh. I thought it was torture or something. Still, they shouldn't do that, it was the guy's fault he got killed.

I think the guy was killed because of his own stupidity. If what you say is true (he lived in an area largely unhabited by humans), then that guy knew the dangers and should had known better.

 

 

 

They shouldn't kill the crocodile.

Crocodiles kill anything that comes close to them. Like rattlesnakes, they also blend in quite well with areas they like to inhabit - or they might be swimming. If I step on a rattlesnake, and get bitten, and die, is it my fault for not carrying a stick and wearing boots constantly? No.

 

 

 

It wasn't this guy's fault at all. Crocodiles are violent and, once they grab onto something, they tend not to let go. If crocodile numbers are anything like alligator numbers here, it's right for some to be killed. They're dangerous, and inhabit lakes and rivers where they blend in well and may just be hungry.

 

 

 

Alligators are mean sonsof[bleep]es. Crocodiles probably are, too.

it's right for some to be killed.

 

So because some humans want to intrude on crocodiles natural habitat means we should clear the area of them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This story is strangely taking me back to the days when we learnt "To Shoot and Elephant" at school. Although the true meaning of that is not related here,

Culling only kills the specific animal and possibly others that are shown to be aggressive or near to humanity. They aren't clearing the area of them.

Aww poor crocs!!! It was probably the 62 year olds fault anyway.

Crocodiles kill anything that comes close to them. Like rattlesnakes, they also blend in quite well with areas they like to inhabit - or they might be swimming. If I step on a rattlesnake, and get bitten, and die, is it my fault for not carrying a stick and wearing boots constantly? No.

 

 

 

Wrong. Rattlesnakes are not as bloodthirsty killers as crocs. They attack if provoked. A croc attacks because it wants to.

meh, they're crocodiles. if they were to be culled, probably most of us wouldn't care. they are naturally dangerous animals AND pose more serious threats then other animals like deers. i'm not saying it's right for them to be killed for an unreasonable excuse.

Crocodiles kill anything that comes close to them. Like rattlesnakes, they also blend in quite well with areas they like to inhabit - or they might be swimming. If I step on a rattlesnake, and get bitten, and die, is it my fault for not carrying a stick and wearing boots constantly? No.

 

 

 

Wrong. Rattlesnakes are not as bloodthirsty killers as crocs. They attack if provoked. A croc attacks because it wants to.

 

Not as bloodthirsty, if you want to use that term, but if you stand within a few feet of a snake, you'd better have a keen ear and fast jump reflex. I've dodged two myself, thanks to their rattling. I know alligators have similar warning, although of course strike more quickly and with less provoking needed, but do crocodiles?

it's right for some to be killed.

 

So because some humans want to intrude on crocodiles natural habitat means we should clear the area of them?

 

 

 

Exactly what I think. If people want to live by crocodile infested waters, more power to them, but that doesn't give them the right to kill them when they start wandering into their yards. They have to realize that they're on the animal's land, not the other way around, and they just have to deal with it.

So, if a dangerous animal decides to wander into your yard, it should just be left alone? Maybe yu should let your kids have a new pet?

 

 

 

No. If you want to bring a territorial debate into this, it's our territory too.

 

 

 

If you want to be so adamant on giving animals their own land, guess you gotta move on up to the moon, eh?

So if an animal predator moves into another animal's territory and makes it it's own it is ok (dang, I used it a lot). But humans can not? We are a part of the ecohabitat. We are no more guilty than an animal defending it's new territory.

 

 

 

As for culling, it is often done to maintain the superiority of humans in the predatorial chain. When an animal kills a human it realizes that it is above the human on that chain and may be aggressive to other humans. Culling removes that animal so it does not present a threat to others. It is a practice widely done in the US with bears, and works very well.

So if an animal predator moves into another animal's territory and makes it it's own it is ok (dang, I used it a lot). But humans can not? We are a part of the ecohabitat. We are no more guilty than an animal defending it's new territory.

 

 

 

As for culling, it is often done to maintain the superiority of humans in the predatorial chain. When an animal kills a human it realizes that it is above the human on that chain and may be aggressive to other humans. Culling removes that animal so it does not present a threat to others. It is a practice widely done in the US with bears, and works very well.

 

Techinchinally, humans ARE animals. ;)

 

I hope that's what you mean.

 

 

 

In anyways, I read it on the news. Seems pretty dumb. Why should he risk his life for some stuff he left in the lake/pond/whatever?

 

Ah well. He is 62 years old after all. (Not discriminating old people)

So, if a dangerous animal decides to wander into your yard, it should just be left alone? Maybe yu should let your kids have a new pet?

 

 

 

it depends if the yard is in the animals territory. anyway, no croc crawled into this old mans yard, he crawled into the crocs lake. when crocs start invading hes yard that is within reasonable distance to where the crocs inhabit, kill them then, but not because he moves into their lake.

 

 

 

its almost as if you think this bloke was in his house reading his paper and drinking hes morning coffee and a croc crawled in. it was actually the other way around, the croc was at home having hes morning swim and all of a sudden a human swam in.

 

 

 

if the croc had crawled into the humans place and the human had felt threatened and acted on his natural instincts and killed the croc, would it be ok to cull all the humans living in his neighborhood?

 

 

 

also from what i know the crocs aren't over populated or anything like whatever them deer in the US are, this bloke was just taking a risk and unfortunately it didn't work out in his best interests.

 

 

 

and yes humans are animals. being such and advanced species like we are we should have been able to work that out since the stone age.

it's right for some to be killed.

 

So because some humans want to intrude on crocodiles natural habitat means we should clear the area of them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This story is strangely taking me back to the days when we learnt "To Shoot and Elephant" at school. Although the true meaning of that is not related here,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh c'mon, it's a brainless animal, I find it amusing why most people care at all about animals.

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: not animals that you know, but NON ENDANGERED species that are overpopulating.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Save the Pandas.