Woodcut Lvr Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 He's being kept alive in prison, nothing more. He'll be at a maximum security prison and those things aren't holiday camps. If your justification for actively killing 15000-20000 people is that they're simply taking up too much space then I think your morals are as shaky as some of the people you're trying to kill. Besides, the death penalty isn't cheaper. So, it's not a vacation to Cancun. Big deal. Why do they need basketball, cable tv, or anything really? We should give them a toilet, a concrete box with a steel door, 2 meals (breakfast and dinner), and a bit of water. They don't need any fun stuff, it's prison, not summer camp. Well, we need to keep them healthy. It's humane. And your article is for lethal injection and such. Now, go to my choice, which is the second one down (the box of 1000). That works out to 0.19899 per round, or 20 cents. Now, if we have to do 2 rounds to make sure they're gone, that's 40 cents per prisoner. Include backhoe rental for a day or two a week (if the family can't afford a burial), and we have a solution. That's not humane in the slightest. We shouldn't bring ourselves down to their level and just shoot them. And so what if I'm a twisted person? As long as I don't go snapping babies in half, then there's no problem is there? Oh! You're not breaking baby's backs, but grown men's backs? Oh, that's perfectly ok. Don't worry about it. I had a piece of grass on my shoe, and she wiped that off. Yeah. Impressive, eh? That's probably the closest I've ever been to having sex. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin64 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 He's being kept alive in prison, nothing more. He'll be at a maximum security prison and those things aren't holiday camps. If your justification for actively killing 15000-20000 people is that they're simply taking up too much space then I think your morals are as shaky as some of the people you're trying to kill. Besides, the death penalty isn't cheaper. So, it's not a vacation to Cancun. Big deal. Why do they need basketball, cable tv, or anything really? We should give them a toilet, a concrete box with a steel door, 2 meals (breakfast and dinner), and a bit of water. They don't need any fun stuff, it's prison, not summer camp. Well, we need to keep them healthy. It's humane. And your article is for lethal injection and such. Now, go to my choice, which is the second one down (the box of 1000). That works out to 0.19899 per round, or 20 cents. Now, if we have to do 2 rounds to make sure they're gone, that's 40 cents per prisoner. Include backhoe rental for a day or two a week (if the family can't afford a burial), and we have a solution. That's not humane in the slightest. We shouldn't bring ourselves down to their level and just shoot them. And so what if I'm a twisted person? As long as I don't go snapping babies in half, then there's no problem is there? Oh! You're not breaking baby's backs, but grown men's backs? Oh, that's perfectly ok. Don't worry about it. Number 1, where was that last italicized part even mentioned? Number 2, you're going to have to explain why a bullet, which causes instant, painless death, is somehow less humane than an injection that isn't as immediate. Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 In response to ember3579 and urbestfriend simultaneously. Yes, I have heard of the term prison break, but the fact that there have been no escapees of this level in at least my living memory means the prison is about as safe as anywhere. He's not a gang member, no one's going to try and spring him and somehow I doubt he has the capacity to get out himself. If you think criminals like that don't deserve the air they breathe then fine, but that's a difference of opinion. But I can't see any ethical or moral justification in killing them, just your financial reasons. I'd rather he died in prison after having to live with what he's done for the rest of his life than being given a quick way out. The cost associated with the death penalty isn't the cost of the chemicals used to kill them, it's the cost associated with making sure the person committed the crime they did. To find a case where it's absolutely certain that the person committed the crime is very rare, and mistakes are frequently made. Fortunately when they've been sent to prison those mistakes are in someways reversible. If they're dead where's the comfort for their families who knew they were innocent all along. To be blunt, I wouldn't mind seeing this monster killed if I didn't think it would be going too easy for him. But i'm against the death penalty in principle because black and white cases like this are so rare that too many mistakes could be made. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomy Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 That sentence is not harsh enough, I believe the way the law of the land should work is "an eye for an eye". So since he snapped her spine in two, he should be dealt with the same way and have his spine snapped in two. "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." No it leaves the eye gougers blind but everyone else better off. Well thats what I think, but yeah the chances of a wrong person is just too much, you can't justify killing an innocent person, even if it was a mistake. I'm for an eye for an eye if the evicence is 100% conclusive. Or at least death or solitary coinfinement (Is that the right term? :S). I think the solitary confinement would actually be less humane then a bullet to the head, but they deserve it. Doomy edit: I like sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sohkmj1 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I'm rather intrigued that he just snapped the spine, unlike other killers who slash, boil and beat the baby up. The way he described the kill was like, those Tom & Jerry shows I watched as a kid, where the cat snaps the broom in half. Still, he got what he deserved. Why doesn't he go pick on somebody his own size. :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greene8535 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Man... that is just cruel! Not only should that guy get life in prison, but also like 50 cane's a day... :ohnoes: I wonder what that guy was thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ember3579 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 If you think criminals like that don't deserve the air they breathe then fine, but that's a difference of opinion. But I can't see any ethical or moral justification in killing them, just your financial reasons. I'd rather he died in prison after having to live with what he's done for the rest of his life than being given a quick way out. The rest of that post makes good sense, and I have to agree with it. The instant death penalty should be reserved for the cases where there is no doubt at all that the person done their chosen atrocity. However, the part above is where I see problems. Not all of these people are remorseful of their actions. Some, like the dude this topic's on apparently, don't care at all. Others, the ones I'm truly worried about, take pride and joy from their actions. These are the ones who I don't want to be around for safety purposes. Even the minimal contact that solitary confinement is too much for these. All others pale in comparison. You never know which rabbit hole you jump into will lead to Wonderland. - Ember3579Aku Soku Zan. - ShinsengumiYou wanna mess with me or my friends? Pick your poison.If you have any complaints about me, please refer to this link. Your problems are important to me.Don't talk smack if you're not willing to say it to the person's face. On the same line, if you're not willing to back up your opinions no matter what, your opinion may as well be nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scootlaboot Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Man... that is just cruel! Not only should that guy get life in prison, but also like 50 cane's a day... :ohnoes: I wonder what that guy was thinking? He was possessed by the spirit of Michael J. Caboose, so he really couldn't thin persay. On Topic: I say he should have a group of angry rednecks maul him to death, or atleastmake him take part in the next pain olympics. If you choose your beliefs/lifestyle simply based on what your parents want, then you are a weak minded individual and are not even worthy of calling yourself a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happysniff Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 If you guys think this guy should be killed why don't you go and [bleep]ing kill him yourself rather then [bleep] about it. Its a baby ffs. Does that mean anyone who has an abortion should be given a death sentence? I'm not supporting what he did, but why does this particular baby murder deserved such attention? Babies get killed everyday, why did the OP think this case was so important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 I'd like to know about his past. Chances are almost everyone will feel sympathetic when they hear of the events that lead up to this. IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoonson Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Man... that is just cruel! Not only should that guy get life in prison, but also like 50 cane's a day... :ohnoes: So you want to kill him?Because thats what 50 strokes would do no question.Hell even 20 strokes are given to you all spaced out... I don't see why people should be given the death penalty at ALL though...You have as much right as him to take away life,and he's being punished for it.So I dunno,you gotta review your...thing. so i herd u liek devarts?If you look at me and feel offended by my 666-ism,think.I could be just as offended by your "cross".[hide=This's why I'm hot]The Eleventh Commandment:Thou Shalst only say "Amen,brother".Amen, brother :lol:Amen, brudda (referring to the 10th commandment)amen Bruder! (german ftw)I'm invulnerable to everything, except Lenin and Dragoonson.That's impossible. I love people.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echofish Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 If only the Ludovico Technique were real... quite a fitting punishment. Ultra Unholy,Hearted Machine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfreind Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 If you guys think this guy should be killed why don't you go and [bleep] kill him yourself rather then [bleep] about it. Its a baby ffs. Does that mean anyone who has an abortion should be given a death sentence? I'm not supporting what he did, but why does this particular baby murder deserved such attention? Babies get killed everyday, why did the OP think this case was so important? Aborted fetus is not the same as dead 1 month old child. And we aren't giving this case special attention. There is no reason to post links to all the articles about baby killings. People's feelings will remain pretty much static from one snapped spinal cord to another. If only the Ludovico Technique were real... quite a fitting punishment. This would probably be my second choice after shooting him, if it was real of course. I should go watch that movie again, or get the book. I need a new book to read. [hide=Funny Quotes]So you sucker punched a kid in the back of the head? Good job.What scares me is that you're like 10 years old.-.- im not that freaking youngYou were a couple years ago.It's not racist if its true.Hmm... I wonder how one goes about throwing someone out a window in a mystic fashion :-k The mental image for that is freaking awesome.[/hide]- I dont need to "get a life." I'm a gamer - I have LOTS of lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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