"Baby Killer" given life sentence

[deathdrow]

It's a sick crime, I agree. And I really don't want to turn this into an abortion debate, but it just interests me that a few months earlier and this baby girl would have been perfectly fine to kill in many gruesome, unpleasant ways. But after she's out of the mother? It's a damned life sentence if you harm her.

 

 

 

Theres a big difference between the two. a baby while its still a fetus cant really do anything, and in my opinion, even though its a living thing, it doesnt have the ability to move freely. whereas a baby as old as this one could probably communicate crawl move eat sleep feel, etc. thats why i believe abortion is okay. I personally think that fetus' don't have the ability to feel.

[Dizzle229]

 

Yea, this most likely was a mental disorder, and it's amazing it wasn't spotted sooner. I feel awful for the baby, if anyone did that to my little sister I'd have to kill em, for real.

 

i hadn't thought of that.

 

but if someone did that to my little sister i wouldnt just kill them, id make sure they suffered and died painfully and slowly. but im not saying he deserves that.

 

 

 

 

 

Gandhi was a great person, and I love his peaceful ideas. But punishment for crime isn't good enough. I read a quote somewhere called "Pudgy on Crime" from the New York Times. I believe it went:

 

 

 

"The fact is, we as Americans are not tough on crime, but pudgy, with great rolls of fat hanging from our bellies and brains."

 

 

 

That isn't the exact quote, but the moral of the story is: We're too damn lenient.

 

The fact is that that the american penal system isn't too damn lenient, it doesn't treat people fairly. It's quite ridiculous that the rich and famous can get away with doing horrible things, but anybody that isn't famous or doesnt have millions and millions of dollars has to go to jail for long periods of time, even if their crime isn't that bad.

 

the whole system itself is greatly flawed.

 

But the guy probably had some sort of mental problem.

 

 

 

Who says the rich and famous can get away with crimes? Noone is above the law. The PRESIDENT can be arrested.

[Da Pirates]

Man, what were they thinking?! Give that [bleep]er the death penalty!

[Dizzle229]

The death penalty is too good for him. I think that prison is even better for him. Instead of just escaping, he has to live with himself, in a tiny box of a room, and will probably be beaten and raped daily by other inmates,

[deathdrow]

 

Yea, this most likely was a mental disorder, and it's amazing it wasn't spotted sooner. I feel awful for the baby, if anyone did that to my little sister I'd have to kill em, for real.

 

i hadn't thought of that.

 

but if someone did that to my little sister i wouldnt just kill them, id make sure they suffered and died painfully and slowly. but im not saying he deserves that.

 

 

 

 

 

Gandhi was a great person, and I love his peaceful ideas. But punishment for crime isn't good enough. I read a quote somewhere called "Pudgy on Crime" from the New York Times. I believe it went:

 

 

 

"The fact is, we as Americans are not tough on crime, but pudgy, with great rolls of fat hanging from our bellies and brains."

 

 

 

That isn't the exact quote, but the moral of the story is: We're too damn lenient.

 

The fact is that that the american penal system isn't too damn lenient, it doesn't treat people fairly. It's quite ridiculous that the rich and famous can get away with doing horrible things, but anybody that isn't famous or doesnt have millions and millions of dollars has to go to jail for long periods of time, even if their crime isn't that bad.

 

the whole system itself is greatly flawed.

 

But the guy probably had some sort of mental problem.

 

 

 

Who says the rich and famous can get away with crimes? Noone is above the law. The PRESIDENT can be arrested.

 

look at paris hilton, lindsay lohan. people like them.

 

OJ got away with killing his wife ffs.

 

Your right, nobody is above the law, but money and fame help make the law a little easier to get around.

[ember3579]

This..... This is inexcusable. To explain my opinion on these matters, you can read the following quote.

 

 

 

Those who act as monsters should be dealt with as such. - Me

 

 

 

I believe that this person should be made an example. That means doing things to him which would demonstrate just how intolerable this sort of thing is and distributing the video online. After which, he can be set up in a maximum security prison yard, chained to a post, and have a sign saying precisely what he done. Anything less is an affront to humanity. These people should see what happens when they pull these stunts and be afraid to do them again.

[Dizzle229]

The OJ case is different. He did get away with it, but he didn't ease through the law. He found a loophole. Once he was found not guilty, he came out in front of the cameras, laughed, and said "you're all stupid, I did it!". Because he knew he couldn't be sentenced. now. Once a verdict is declared, it can't be taken back. and an in the U.S., you can't be taken to court twice for the same crime.

[Dizzle229]

This..... This is inexcusable. To explain my opinion on these matters, you can read the following quote.

 

 

 

Those who act as monsters should be dealt with as such. - Me

 

 

 

I believe that this person should be made an example. That means doing things to him which would demonstrate just how intolerable this sort of thing is and distributing the video online. After which, he can be set up in a maximum security prison yard, chained to a post, and have a sign saying precisely what he done. Anything less is an affront to humanity. These people should see what happens when they pull these stunts and be afraid to do them again.

 

 

 

 

 

We can't do that. It's considered by the Constitution to be "Cruel and unusual punishment".

 

 

 

 

 

I'm on a roll with my points about the U.S. legal system tonight :twss:

[Lenin64]

I still don't understand why the magnitude of the crime is enhanced so much by it being a child. Sure, you might say it's defenseless, but if someone were, say, drugged and couldn;t fight back, then had their spine broken, would you cry out in the same manner? What if someone were ravaged in their sleep?

[Dizzle229]

I still don't understand why the magnitude of the crime is enhanced so much by it being a child. Sure, you might say it's defenseless, but if someone were, say, drugged and couldn;t fight back, then had their spine broken, would you cry out in the same manner? What if someone were ravaged in their sleep?

 

 

 

 

 

Lenin, stop bragging about your day.

[deathdrow]

The OJ case is different. He did get away with it, but he didn't ease through the law. He found a loophole. Once he was found not guilty, he came out in front of the cameras, laughed, and said "you're all stupid, I did it!". Because he knew he couldn't be sentenced. now. Once a verdict is declared, it can't be taken back. and an in the U.S., you can't be taken to court twice for the same crime.

 

but famous people and rich people still get away with crimes.

[Riku3220]

Ugh, maybe we should just start killing criminals just for harming somebody, and I'm not talking crappy lethal injection, I'm talking a bullet to the head and the dead body into a fire.

 

 

 

It's cheaper, it's faster, and I'm sure this'll make crime go down

[Saru Inc]

It's a sick crime, I agree. And I really don't want to turn this into an abortion debate, but it just interests me that a few months earlier and this baby girl would have been perfectly fine to kill in many gruesome, unpleasant ways. But after she's out of the mother? It's a damned life sentence if you harm her.

 

 

 

Theres a big difference between the two. a baby while its still a fetus cant really do anything, and in my opinion, even though its a living thing, it doesnt have the ability to move freely. whereas a baby as old as this one could probably communicate crawl move eat sleep feel, etc. thats why i believe abortion is okay. I personally think that fetus' don't have the ability to feel.

 

 

 

 

 

But, I'm pretty sure, not entirely, that the fetus can feel pain. Second, the fetus did even less to deserve it.

[deathdrow]

This..... This is inexcusable. To explain my opinion on these matters, you can read the following quote.

 

 

 

Those who act as monsters should be dealt with as such. - Me

 

 

 

I believe that this person should be made an example. That means doing things to him which would demonstrate just how intolerable this sort of thing is and distributing the video online. After which, he can be set up in a maximum security prison yard, chained to a post, and have a sign saying precisely what he done. Anything less is an affront to humanity. These people should see what happens when they pull these stunts and be afraid to do them again.

 

You should realize that stuff much much worse than this happens everyday, your just being overly sensitive about it.

 

 

 

 

 

It's a sick crime, I agree. And I really don't want to turn this into an abortion debate, but it just interests me that a few months earlier and this baby girl would have been perfectly fine to kill in many gruesome, unpleasant ways. But after she's out of the mother? It's a damned life sentence if you harm her.

 

 

 

Theres a big difference between the two. a baby while its still a fetus cant really do anything, and in my opinion, even though its a living thing, it doesnt have the ability to move freely. whereas a baby as old as this one could probably communicate crawl move eat sleep feel, etc. thats why i believe abortion is okay. I personally think that fetus' don't have the ability to feel.

 

 

 

 

 

But, I'm pretty sure, not entirely, that the fetus can feel pain. Second, the fetus did even less to deserve it.

 

Even though the fetus hasn't done anything to deserve the pain, it's still probably a better alternative than what alot of people would do if they had to have the baby. Some people would treat the baby horribly, and take out their anger on the baby and for the rest of it's life as it grew up. They could kill the baby. They could put the baby up for adoption, which would not be very nice for the kid to have happen. Also it depends on how developed the fetus is, if its past 3-4 months of pregnancy, then i believe its developed enough to be able to feel pain. But anytime earlier than that, I think abortion would be fine.

[Kill_Thomas9]

You mean a baby is dead? Why Lord, why??? Oh, wait... Don't we have something called abortion? In which we kill innocent babies? But those babies are smaller, so I guess it doesn't matter.

[Will H]

I hope he meets that big, horny inmate that every prison has.

 

And when someone drops the soap in the shower, he goes to pick it up.

 

lol u r so original.

 

I'm sorry. I had to. :mrgreen:

[Furah]

I think that people like this should have to wear a shirt saying what they did, ie for this case "baby killer", for x years after they leave prison....

[Dizzle229]

Ugh, maybe we should just start killing criminals just for harming somebody, and I'm not talking crappy lethal injection, I'm talking a bullet to the head and the dead body into a fire.

 

 

 

It's cheaper, it's faster, and I'm sure this'll make crime go down

 

 

 

 

 

 

We can't do that. It's considered by the Constitution to be "Cruel and unusual punishment".

 

[Riku3220]

It may be cruel and unusual but it'll get the job done at a much cheaper cost

[llcoolguy972]

To all the people trying to speak out against abortion with this, it isn't comparable. Aborting a fetus that needs to be inside its mother's womb or else it wouldn't exist isn't equitable to a child who's been in the world for over a year.

 

 

 

Also, kinda, relatable. The most merciful death is baby death.

[tintin113]

Horrible yes, but that they can prove to a great enough extent that it wasn't an eccident - enough to give him 22 years in prison I find astonishing. I know it's dreadful that he killed the baby, but most first time murders are not given that long, and you could say it's horrible, but baby's are also small, perhaps he was too forceful or made some other mistake. Taking away the prime of this man's adult life for what could have been a horrible accident is inexcusible.

[l0l0lpur32]

Crime in the UK is falling.

 

lol

[llcoolguy972]

Horrible yes, but that they can prove to a great enough extent that it wasn't an eccident - enough to give him 22 years in prison I find astonishing. I know it's dreadful that he killed the baby, but most first time murders are not given that long, and you could say it's horrible, but baby's are also small, perhaps he was too forceful or made some other mistake. Taking away the prime of this man's adult life for what could have been a horrible accident is inexcusible.

 

 

 

He held her over his knee and broke her back in two. Even without his history of abuse towards her and other women, there would be no doubt in my mind that this was intentional. Not to mention that he didn't even show remorse for what he did. Some deaths are accidents, but this one wasn't.

[angryjoe]

 

Crime in the UK is falling.

 

 

 

lol

 

 

 

?

[urbestfreind]

That sentence is not harsh enough, I believe the way the law of the land should work is "an eye for an eye". So since he snapped her spine in two, he should be dealt with the same way and have his spine snapped in two.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree. Murderers, once found guilty, should be killed the way they killed the person. That, or if it would be to costly or time consuming, we go another way - execution style. Grab a redneck or a gangster from NY, give them 2 bullets (about 35 cents each), and let 'em take the shot. They won't miss twice. That's just my opinion though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I remember I claimed I'd start slaughtering babies if nobody helped me with my Windows XP problem, but thank fully it didn't come to that. Otherwise that'd be me getting a life sentence :o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I remember that thread (points down to signature).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

llcoolguy972 - that Alyssa story was majorly [bleep]ed up. Was that even true? Because it seemed really, really exaggerated. So much so, that I read the whole thing without any emotion, which usually doesn't happen when I read stories like that. Even the OP story evoked a small bit of sadness for the child.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, at least the death was quick. It was probably painful for a short while, but it would have been better than beating it to death for awhile, or something similar.